11-12-2015, 10:31 PM | #4441 |
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11-12-2015, 10:34 PM | #4442 |
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Seems a bit much for a guy that has yet to pitch 200 innings in a season. I guess thats the going rate for a "dependable #4" starter? |
11-12-2015, 11:11 PM | #4443 |
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Yeah that's too much for 2 years. Seems like a panic/sentimental move. I do know that Lacava (along with AA) had a lot of stock in Estrada and they had been scouting him for some time. Similar to what they did with Bautista. Taking a big low odds chance. You can just hope this past year wasn't a fluke.
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11-12-2015, 11:56 PM | #4444 |
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You just get worried that since Toronto traditionally doesn't have a huge budget that a deal like this could hinder them for the next couple of years by not allowing them to add that extra piece or for them to not be able to go the extra mile for David Price. Teams like the Yanks, Boston, LA and even the Angels and Cubs can afford to absorb some shit deals but not so much Toronto. It still seems like yesterday Venon Wells' contract crippled the franchise.
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11-13-2015, 05:06 AM | #4445 |
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Well their budget is top 10 as of now so they have been spending and they realize this is their window to be aggressive, so we'll see
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11-13-2015, 05:59 AM | #4446 |
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Might be better if he takes the qualifying offer lol
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11-13-2015, 10:04 AM | #4447 |
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Phillies reportedly want Marcell Ozuna. I'd be on board with that for the right price.
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11-13-2015, 11:06 AM | #4448 |
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It would be hilarious if the Marlins went to great lengths to keep Ozuna in AAA for a good chunk of this year just to extend his service time/delay his arbitration eligibility only to then immediately trade him to a division rival.
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11-13-2015, 12:24 PM | #4449 |
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Rasmus was smart to accept the offer, I wouldn't have even offered it to him....
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11-13-2015, 12:54 PM | #4450 |
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Did not realize no one accepted the offer before him.
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11-13-2015, 03:55 PM | #4451 |
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Wieters accepts qualifying offer from Baltimore. Good for both sides imo.
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11-13-2015, 05:11 PM | #4452 |
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Blue Jays re-sign Estrada: 2 years, $26 million
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11-13-2015, 05:35 PM | #4453 |
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Meh.
Brett Anderson has accepted the Dodgers' qualifying offer. That's the third player to accept. Can't imagine general managers and owners are excited about this. Draft pick compensation is dumb to begin with, but maybe now that the owners are finally gonna get punched in the wallet for the dumb Mets system, maybe there's a mutual agreement between union and owners that dramatically changes or eliminated draft compensation. |
11-13-2015, 08:16 PM | #4454 |
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Padres send Kimbrel to the bosox for a package of prospects, including Manuel Margot, a top 100 outfield prospect. Excellent move.
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11-13-2015, 08:19 PM | #4455 |
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That could make a huge difference in the al east
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11-13-2015, 09:02 PM | #4456 | |
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11-13-2015, 09:27 PM | #4457 |
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Part of me is secretly hoping that Kimbrel in Boston ends up like every closer DD tried to bring into Detroit.
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11-13-2015, 09:40 PM | #4458 |
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At this point, wouldn't be surprised if this backfired. Way too many seasons recently where Sox pitching killed any hopes of a good season.
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11-14-2015, 01:19 AM | #4459 |
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Taking my love for the Padres out of it, from a process standpoint, it's a terrible move for Boston. Even if you think Boegarts and Betts are you future long term ss and cf, you just traded two players at those positions with massive major league upsidefor a guy who will cost at least $24 million to throw maybe 120 innings. You then also gave up a possible major league second baseman and starting pitcher to boot.
It's the kind of trade Dombrowski is known for, and the type of trade Boston fans should fear. Those four players could've netted an ace, or a few arms that would be upgrades, but instead gave up 4 players, who even if they end up mediocre major leaguers, will provide more aggregate value than Kimbrel every could. Hell, if only the shortstop or centerfielder work out, it's a bum trade for Boston. |
11-14-2015, 07:05 AM | #4460 |
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Think Dombrowski overpaid for Kimbrel on this. 2 Prospects and a bag of cash probably would have done the trick.
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11-14-2015, 12:32 PM | #4461 |
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Welcome to the Dombrowski era!
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11-14-2015, 12:52 PM | #4462 |
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Have read reports that had it only been Margot (cf) or Guerra(ss), it still would've been a bad trade.
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11-14-2015, 02:24 PM | #4463 |
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Red Sox definitely overpaid, but doesn't hurt my feelings, they can eat a big bag of dicks all season long....
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11-14-2015, 04:07 PM | #4464 |
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Phillies send Sam McWilliams to Arizona for Jeremy Hellickson.
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11-14-2015, 05:09 PM | #4465 |
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Who would ever want an increasingly extensive Jeremy Hellickson? I don't know why teams don't take the Cubs' approach, signing solid vets and flipping them at the deadline.
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11-14-2015, 07:12 PM | #4466 |
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I don't love the move, but I'd rather have Hellickson than Williams/Harang/Billingsley/Buchanan.
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11-14-2015, 07:12 PM | #4467 |
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Also I really hope Jeff Francouer comes back. Love that dude.
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11-14-2015, 08:33 PM | #4468 |
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Boston could use pieces that will allow them to actually get to the 9th in a save situation to use Kimbrel
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11-14-2015, 10:10 PM | #4469 |
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Jeremy Hellickson is a tire fire.
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11-14-2015, 11:29 PM | #4470 |
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Droford making sense for once.
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11-16-2015, 02:19 AM | #4471 |
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What the Hell happened to Hellickson, the kid was money a while back....
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11-16-2015, 09:23 AM | #4472 |
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He actually wasn't. He just had really good, unsustainable luck. ERA and run prevention indicators had rated him below average for years. Just finally caught up with him.
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11-16-2015, 05:25 PM | #4473 |
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Damn you and your analytics D Ray.
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11-16-2015, 07:05 PM | #4474 |
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Kris Bryant and Carlos Correa are your Rookies of the Year.
Mariners get Leonys Martin and Anthony Bass from the Rangers for James Jones and Tom Wilhelmsen. |
11-17-2015, 02:00 PM | #4475 |
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There is growing sentiment that the Marlins will trade Jose Fernandez this offseason.
lol god that franchise is such a trainwreck |
11-17-2015, 02:03 PM | #4476 |
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Suddenly I wish we had Dombrowski still
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11-17-2015, 02:04 PM | #4477 |
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Big Papi has announced that 2016 will be his final season.
Might explain the "win-now" move that was the Kimbrel trade. Papi is still the heart and soul of that franchise. |
11-17-2015, 05:04 PM | #4478 |
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11-17-2015, 05:30 PM | #4479 |
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11-17-2015, 07:02 PM | #4480 |
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Haha love Pedroia
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