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Old 10-07-2017, 09:45 AM   #41
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Your problem Gertner is you are very set in your ways. It has to fit YOUR idea of wrestling to be any good. Women's wrestling sucks. Vanilla midgets suck. Smart crowds suck. Internet fans suck (even though you are probably the biggest fucking internet hipster smart fan there is). Not everything is so cut and dry.

Obviously some post mania crowds are irritating (especially in the past 3 years), but some of those original ones when it was organic were fucking awesome.

Think about it, this was during a time when crowds for the most part just sat on their hands and did fuck all unless it was saying "What". These fans actually reacted to stuff, and not in a way just to get themselves over, but more as a celebration of the whole mania experience. Of course, once they became self aware and WWE started marketing it, it started to stink.
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Old 10-07-2017, 11:22 AM   #42
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I've discovered that the older I get, the more I dislike "Smark Crowds".

At first, all those years ago, it was pretty cool/funny and they did help make some memorable moments in wrestling a little bit more memorable thanks to their reactions but now, I just want them to shut the hell up.

I find myself skipping the matches of certain wrestlers now because I just know that the crowd will be ruining it for me with their chants/reactions.
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Old 10-07-2017, 12:02 PM   #43
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I've discovered that the older I get, the more I dislike "Smark Crowds".

At first, all those years ago, it was pretty cool/funny and they did help make some memorable moments in wrestling a little bit more memorable thanks to their reactions but now, I just want them to shut the hell up.

I find myself skipping the matches of certain wrestlers now because I just know that the crowd will be ruining it for me with their chants/reactions.
Agreed. I am telling you tho the kiss of death was wwe acknowledging them. Then they felt they could hijack every show and jumped the shark.
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Old 10-07-2017, 12:53 PM   #44
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Your problem Gertner is you are very set in your ways. It has to fit YOUR idea of wrestling to be any good. Women's wrestling sucks. Vanilla midgets suck. Smart crowds suck. Internet fans suck (even though you are probably the biggest fucking internet hipster smart fan there is). Not everything is so cut and dry.

Obviously some post mania crowds are irritating (especially in the past 3 years), but some of those original ones when it was organic were fucking awesome.

Think about it, this was during a time when crowds for the most part just sat on their hands and did fuck all unless it was saying "What". These fans actually reacted to stuff, and not in a way just to get themselves over, but more as a celebration of the whole mania experience. Of course, once they became self aware and WWE started marketing it, it started to stink.
Judging from this thread I'm not alone. They became self aware during the first post Mania show! And I've never said Internet wrestling fans suck because I'm an Internet wrestling fan. And women's wrestling sucks ass except for Judy Martin.
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Old 10-07-2017, 01:08 PM   #45
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Judging from this thread I'm not alone. They became self aware during the first post Mania show! And I've never said Internet wrestling fans suck because I'm an Internet wrestling fan. And women's wrestling sucks ass except for Judy Martin.
Lol osw podcast nicknamed judy martin the terminator because she never sold.
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Old 10-07-2017, 01:10 PM   #46
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Old 10-07-2017, 02:15 PM   #47
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Lol osw podcast nicknamed judy martin the terminator because she never sold.
Lol she was a tough old broad. Busting out powerbombs in the mid 80's.

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Lol she was a tough old broad. Busting out powerbombs in the mid 80's.



Does a better powerbomb than Nash, not sure if that saying much though.
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Old 10-07-2017, 09:19 PM   #49
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Your problem Gertner is you are very set in your ways. It has to fit YOUR idea of wrestling to be any good. Women's wrestling sucks. Vanilla midgets suck. Smart crowds suck. Internet fans suck (even though you are probably the biggest fucking internet hipster smart fan there is). Not everything is so cut and dry.

Obviously some post mania crowds are irritating (especially in the past 3 years), but some of those original ones when it was organic were fucking awesome.

Think about it, this was during a time when crowds for the most part just sat on their hands and did fuck all unless it was saying "What". These fans actually reacted to stuff, and not in a way just to get themselves over, but more as a celebration of the whole mania experience. Of course, once they became self aware and WWE started marketing it, it started to stink.
It existed in a bubble of time because people were still around and the product was bad. People aren't going to hang around for bad shit for long, and that they kept the bad shit and thought the crowd was going to stick around is a problem. That's why they all suck and seem like they are "trying."
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Old 10-08-2017, 06:40 AM   #50
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Your problem Gertner is you are very set in your ways. It has to fit YOUR idea of wrestling to be any good.

So?

I disagree with most of Gertner's opinions but I like him because he just says what he likes and why, and says what he thinks sucks and why. He doesn't actively try to convince people to think like him, or tell people what they should and shouldn't like.

Also, you're getting worked. Hate to break kayfabe, but Gertner likes women's wrestling. Just not today's women's wrestling.
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Old 10-08-2017, 07:34 AM   #51
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So?

I disagree with most of Gertner's opinions but I like him because he just says what he likes and why, and says what he thinks sucks and why. He doesn't actively try to convince people to think like him, or tell people what they should and shouldn't like.

Also, you're getting worked. Hate to break kayfabe, but Gertner likes women's wrestling. Just not today's women's wrestling.
Oh I love Gertner, he was just pissing me off because he was being a dick in how he was replying... not so much debating as stating things as fact and being smarmy, which is one of his trademark traits, but I was still gonna shit on him. Doesn't mean he's not one of my favourite posters.

And I know he likes old women's wrestling. He fucking likes old anything wrestling.
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Old 10-08-2017, 08:27 AM   #52
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Lol I hate shit like Dory Funk Jr vs Jack Brisco. I can't watch stuff like that. Bores me to tears. Also, 75% of the stuff on WWF House Shows from 78-87 (the time period that I'm a fan of) is awful. I don't know how many S.D Jones vs Baron Scicluna matches I've seen but it's more than enough. It does though make the good stuff stand out more...like anything Don Muraco does.
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I tried watching a 1975 MSG card on Friday and I basically just skipped to Bruno's match vs Spiros Arion after two matches and then shut it off. Not good lol
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You think everyone's a dick, Dale. Maybe you should stop projecting things that annoy you onto other people? Like, people fluff up their personalities on the internet and stuff.
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You think everyone's a dick, Dale. Maybe you should stop projecting things that annoy you onto other people? Like, people fluff up their personalities on the internet and stuff.
Stop being a dick, Noid.

BTW the last part of your statement also applies to me. I'm pretty much exactly the same in real life but it's dialled up ten-fold here. People just put up with me due to my otherwise loveable nature.
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It does though make the good stuff stand out more...like anything Don Muraco does.
Man I watched him vs Dan Spivey, and I'll tell you... loved Muraco's style. Cowardly until he could opportunistically gain advantage making Spivey look like a million bucks. But when Spivey dropped the dime, Muraco beat the fuck out of him. It's standard psychology but some guys do it very well.
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Man I watched him vs Dan Spivey, and I'll tell you... loved Muraco's style. Cowardly until he could opportunistically gain advantage making Spivey look like a million bucks. But when Spivey dropped the dime, Muraco beat the fuck out of him. It's standard psychology but some guys do it very well.
He's amazing. Greatest IC Champ of all time.

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Old 10-08-2017, 03:36 PM   #63
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Okerlund can't even deal with himself. Muraco AND Heenan pop him big time.
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