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Old 07-05-2015, 12:27 PM   #2441
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They might splurge higher than the Yankees but doubt they'd go years in a row with the heavy spending like the Yankees did until recently.
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The Jays rotation is so fucking awful. Hutchison and Dickey have been nightmares. They really need to deal one of their thousand pitching prospects for some help before this gets away from them.
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Old 07-05-2015, 08:11 PM   #2443
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Predicted the All Star starters spot on:

AL
C: Perez
1B: Cabrera
2B: Altuve
SS: Escobar
3B: Donaldson
OF: Trout
OF: Cain
OF: Gordon
DH: Cruz

NL
C: Posey
1B: Goldschmidt
2B: Gordon
SS: Peralta
3B: Frazier
OF: Harper
OF: Stanton
OF: Holliday

Already knew Stanton and Holliday would be replaced, but now Miggy will too with his injury.
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Old 07-05-2015, 08:18 PM   #2444
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Well I'll be damned, Mets put up 8 runs today.
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Manny Machado is better than Donaldson
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Donaldson easily best 3B in the AL right now. Not even close
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Donaldson
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302/357/527/144

Per baseball reference, Machado has 17 defensive runs saved to Donaldson's 8. Donaldson is 4.3 bwar to Machado's 4.5.

So, homer Droford isn't right. But saying "it isn't close" is, ironically, not close. They're about as even as it gets offensively with Machado having the better glove.
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Interested to see what the Cubs do this month. In years past, ownership has said they were going to stick to a plan, then barfed cash because they could. They already broke one of their major unwritten organizational rules this season (no matter the prospect, he needs a full seasons worth in AAA).

Since it looks like they'll be playing for the one-game wild card, it seems crazy to make a big trade now for a top starter lest they wind up like Oakland last year. I hope they stay the course and get a innings eating 3rd or 4th starter who will cost less but could still help give them a slight bump for the regular season and get to the one game playoff. They currently have 4 starters in the top 25 in the NL in FIP and WAR, but because of the hole in the 5th spot, people seem to think they absolutely need a front line guy but I don't see the urgency.
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Old 07-06-2015, 05:14 PM   #2450
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Donaldson
295/352/529/143
Avg/obp/slg/ops+

Machado
302/357/527/144

Per baseball reference, Machado has 17 defensive runs saved to Donaldson's 8. Donaldson is 4.3 bwar to Machado's 4.5.

So, homer Droford isn't right. But saying "it isn't close" is, ironically, not close. They're about as even as it gets offensively with Machado having the better glove.
Donaldson is also about 6 years older. He's 29, Manny turned 23 today.

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Machado also ranks in the top 10 among all major leaguers before their 23rd birthday since his debut in 2012, according to STATS. He's second in doubles behind the Angels' Mike Trout (99) and ranks third in hits, home runs, RBIs and runs. He's also sixth in steals and ninth in average.
Dan Hirsch, creator of TheBaseballGauge.com, provided the following list of "Most WAR by a third baseman through their age 22 season":
1. Eddie Mathews 18.5
2. Manny Machado 15.0
3. John McGraw 15.0
4. Buddy Lewis 12.6
5. Freddie Lindstrom 12.5
Keep in mind that includes the fact he missed 1/2 of last year with his 2nd knee injury. He'd probably have even better stats had he not gotten hurt last year (ignoring the first injury he had at the end of 2013 when he only missed like 3 games).

I don't see Donaldson's name on that list, because he didn't even make it to the majors full time until he was 26.
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Manny just led off the game with a homer to dead center in Minnesota.
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Rosters are officially in:

AL Starters (fan vote)

C Salvador Perez, Royals
1B Miguel Cabrera, Tigers (injured, will not play)
2B Jose Altuve, Astros
SS Alcides Escobar, Royals
3B Josh Donaldson, Blue Jays (leading vote-getter overall)
OF Mike Trout, Angels
OF Lorenzo Cain, Royals
OF Alex Gordon, Royals
DH Nelson Cruz, Mariners

AL Reserves

C Russell Martin, Blue Jays
C Stephen Vogt, Athletics
1B Albert Pujols, Angels (will start in place of the injured Cabrera)
1B Prince Fielder, Rangers
1B Mark Teixeira, Yankees (replaces injured Cabrera on roster)
2B Jason Kipnis, Indians
SS Jose Iglesias, Tigers
3B Manny Machado, Orioles
OF J.D. Martinez, Tigers
OF Jose Bautista, Blue Jays
OF Adam Jones, Orioles
UTIL Brock Holt, Red Sox

AL Pitchers

RHP Sonny Gray, Athletics
RHP Felix Hernandez, Mariners
RHP Chris Archer, Rays
LHP David Price, Tigers
LHP Dallas Keuchel, Astros
LHP Chris Sale, White Sox
RHP Dellin Betances, Yankees
RHP Brad Boxberger, Rays
RHP Kelvin Herrera, Royals
RHP Wade Davis, Royals
RHP Darren O'Day, Orioles
LHP Glen Perkins, Twins
LHP Zach Britton, Orioles

AL Final Vote Candidates

SS Xander Bogaerts, Red Sox
OF Yoenis Cespedes, Tigers
OF Brett Gardner, Yankees
2B Brian Dozier, Twins
3B Mike Moustakas, Royals

NL Starters (fan vote)

C Buster Posey, Giants
1B Paul Goldschmidt, Diamondbacks
2B Dee Gordon, Marlins
SS Jhonny Peralta, Cardinals
3B Todd Frazier, Reds
OF Bryce Harper, Nationals (leading vote-getter in NL)
OF Matt Holliday, Cardinals (injured, participation questionable)
OF Giancarlo Stanton, Marlins (injured, will not play)

NL Reserves

C Yadier Molina, Cardinals
C Yasmani Grandal, Dodgers
1B Anthony Rizzo, Cubs
1B Adrian Gonzalez, Dodgers
2B DJ LeMahieu, Rockies
2B Joe Panik, Giants
SS Brandon Crawford, Giants
3B Nolan Arenado, Rockies
3B Kris Bryant, Cubs (replaces injured Stanton on roster)
OF Andrew McCutchen, Pirates (will start in place of the injured Stanton)
OF Joc Pederson, Dodgers
OF Justin Upton, Padres
OF A.J. Pollock, Diamondbacks

NL Pitchers

RHP Max Scherzer, Nationals
RHP Zack Greinke, Dodgers
RHP Gerrit Cole, Pirates
RHP Michael Wacha, Cardinals
RHP Jacob deGrom, Mets
RHP Shelby Miller, Braves
RHP A.J. Burnett, Pirates
LHP Madison Bumgarner, Giants
RHP Trevor Rosenthal, Cardinals
RHP Mark Melancon, Pirates
RHP Jonathan Papelbon, Phillies
RHP Francisco Rodriguez, Brewers
LHP Aroldis Chapman, Reds

NL Final Vote Candidates

RHP Johnny Cueto, Reds
RHP Jeurys Familia, Mets
LHP Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers
RHP Carlos Martinez, Cardinals
SS Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies

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Pretty much killed it with my predictions last week. Only misses on the AL position player side were JD Martinez over Cespedes and Prince over EE, and the latter was only because I didn't know if they'd have Prince correctly listed as a DH on the Player Ballot.

I knew that the starting pitching in the AL was weak and was struggling to decide on a 7th name, but Yost just said fuck it and loaded up on the relievers. Kelvin Herrera wound up being the homer pick over Volquez. Had Boxberger and O'Day on the Final Vote ballot so that helps offset Street not making it.

NL I didn't do as well on the position players. Panik making it instead of going to the final vote makes sense. Somewhat surprised at LeMahieu over Kolten Wong but that's not a bad choice. LeMahieu basically replaces my prediction of Tulo making it. Grandal over Norris is whatever. A-Gon over Votto is genuinely surprising to me given the game is in Cincy. Aoki didn't make it as he just got injured, plus it sounds like Holliday is actually gonna try to play in the ASG anyway.

Basically killed it with the NL pitchers. Got 12 of 13. Saw Familia getting snubbed coming from a mile away because of how the process works. Only miss was Kershaw not being a Player Vote choice and Wacha going in instead. Poor Familia has to try to beat Kershaw in the Final Vote. Not gonna happen.
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Interested to see what the Cubs do this month. In years past, ownership has said they were going to stick to a plan, then barfed cash because they could. They already broke one of their major unwritten organizational rules this season (no matter the prospect, he needs a full seasons worth in AAA).

Since it looks like they'll be playing for the one-game wild card, it seems crazy to make a big trade now for a top starter lest they wind up like Oakland last year. I hope they stay the course and get a innings eating 3rd or 4th starter who will cost less but could still help give them a slight bump for the regular season and get to the one game playoff. They currently have 4 starters in the top 25 in the NL in FIP and WAR, but because of the hole in the 5th spot, people seem to think they absolutely need a front line guy but I don't see the urgency.

Was going to text you about this. Who you got? Kazmir? Dan Haren (my personal choice)?
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Haren I would be happy with if they gave up nothing for him. I think he would be a great 5th, but I just don't trust him. In order of who I would want depending on who they have to give up: Kazmir, Gallardo, Samardjia, Latos, Haren. Not sure how likely any of those actually are, but they seem plausible. I know they want someone who would be under control for next year, but if you want to aim high with Hamels or Sale (!) they would need to deal Schwarber, and I'm not sure how keen they are on doing that. Baez, Almora and Castro were great chips at one point but their stocks are down bad.
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Haren will cost way less than the other guys and I know he'd give better innings than what the Cubs have crapped out there so far.
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Haren will cost way less than the other guys and I know he'd give better innings than what the Cubs have crapped out there so far.
I would really like for them to have traded for him last month, to see if they needed to make a bigger deal later if he wasn't the answer or an injury occurred. Guessing the way the market is working, with zero deals going down at this point, that the asking price was too high for him or they have too many other preferred options and feel that they wouldn't make another deal if they had him already.

As it stands, they're going to try and catch lightning in a bottle with Clayton Richard (who literally cost them nothing to acquire) before they make any kind of real deal which is probably the best option right now.
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Cubs finally going to win a game vs cards. If they take both games today they build some solid momentum but a loss in game 2 followed by another tomorrow would be pretty standard here.
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Red Sox actually managed to win 3 games in a row this season. Been slowly getting better the past 2-3 weeks but building momentum from wins has been a big issue so far this season.
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leadoff Granderson triple, Tejada pops one out to right field in foul territory. Pence, in his first game back all season makes a diving catch, stands up, spins, and fires a perfect strike to home plate to nail Granderson.

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Who's your team Dave? I'm sure the Padres will be trading him shortly.
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Cubs and DBacks, neither team will need him. He's still my favorite player even though he's been gone from Arizona for 2 years.
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Last night Jonathan Herrera couldn't find his batting helmet. He wore Mike Baxter's but looked really distraught the entire at-bat, looking to the dugout after each pitch. 3 pitches in the bat boy brought him out his helmet and he singled.

He took off his helmet at first base and held it up like Lion King...only to be even more upset when he realized that it was Chris Coghlan's helmet.
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That's like Space Jam when the Tune Squad played better after having the Secret Stuff only to find out it was just water. He had it in him all along.
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MLB decided to shuffle their gameday lineup for the All-Star game concert with starting singer Ariana Grande being benched in favor of relief singer Demi Lovato.

Unofficial reason likely related to the recent weird incident involving Grande and a doughnut shop.
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MLB dropped the singer that was planned for the All-Star game concert in favor of a new one. Supposedly the original singer was involved in a really weird incident at a doughnut shop that involved her and her friends licking doughnuts while complaining about how she hated America.

Store ended up selling those licked doughnuts to customers by mistake since nobody was around when they did it.

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Alex Gordon will be out for 8 weeks. Probably opens up a spot on the All Star team for one of Brett Gardner or Yoenis Cespedes even if they don't win the Final Vote.
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MLB dropped the singer that was planned for the All-Star game concert in favor of a new one. Supposedly the original singer was involved in a really weird incident at a doughnut shop that involved her and her friends licking doughnuts while complaining about how she hated America.

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Ariana Grande?!

Whoever had her booked should be fired.
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Wait, the MLB would never blow some total non-story out of proportion. What is going on here?
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Alex Gordon will be out for 8 weeks. Probably opens up a spot on the All Star team for one of Brett Gardner or Yoenis Cespedes even if they don't win the Final Vote.
Brett Gardner ended up getting picked as the replacement.
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Matz with a lat strain, will not throw for at least 3 weeks.

Unreal. The Mets cannot catch a goddamn break with these motherfucking injuries.
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