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View Poll Results: Is it time for an asian world champ? | |||
Yea | 9 | 39.13% | |
Nah | 5 | 21.74% | |
Meh/ Dont care either way | 8 | 34.78% | |
I'd rather see more stereotypes | 1 | 4.35% | |
Voters: 23. You must log in or register to vote on this poll. |
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04-04-2012, 08:04 PM | #1 |
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Is it time for an asian world champ?
At one point I actually liked Kenzo before they made him a joke. So now that we've seen Lord Tensi, do you think that they could bring in a wrestler (who's actually from asian decent) and become a world champ? I don't mean a sereotype (a Ninja, Sumo, Karate Master, etc) but kinda like Sheamus who is a professional wrestler who just so happens to be from another country. FEELS LIKE I'M WEARING NOTHING AT ALL NOTHING AT ALL NOTHING AT ALL |
04-04-2012, 08:24 PM | #2 |
Over Like Rover
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of course they could. there just isn't somebody that "fits the criteria" under contract atm
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04-04-2012, 08:25 PM | #3 |
Loque Ja
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Kenzo was pretty brutal before they made him a joke. Afterwards, I mildly enjoyed him.
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04-04-2012, 08:26 PM | #4 |
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Agreed. A lot of Japanese (or 'Asian') wrestlers are either really small, or really big (in the gut department). They're all intense, hard-hitting wrestlers, but none of them really have that WWE Superstar, or WWE/World Champion look.
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04-04-2012, 08:33 PM | #5 |
Over Like Rover
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I think you're paying too much attention to the Tajiri's, Taka's, Kenzo's, Tatsu's aka the guys that wind up in America, plenty of guys with the right "look" past and present in Japan
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04-04-2012, 08:48 PM | #6 |
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Masahiro Chono would fit the bill. But that's 10 years ago and during his stint on WCW.
Masato Tanaka is still going. Might get flak for being Mysterio weight, but I see him as a legit guy to hold a "heavyweight" title. He's busy working 2 promotions at once right now. |
04-04-2012, 08:55 PM | #7 |
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Shingo
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04-04-2012, 08:57 PM | #8 |
Over Like Rover
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is pretty Smallo
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04-04-2012, 08:58 PM | #9 |
Over Like Rover
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if we're naming guys who could potentially "look the part", Tanahashi looks better than 70-80% of guys under contract to Vince atm
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04-04-2012, 09:02 PM | #10 |
Loque Ja
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As long as they are managed by Sonny Onoo.
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04-04-2012, 09:07 PM | #11 |
emerge
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Is tanahashi the current Ghc champ?
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04-04-2012, 09:08 PM | #12 |
emerge
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Cyber gorilla!
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04-04-2012, 09:13 PM | #13 |
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04-04-2012, 09:22 PM | #14 |
Loque Ja
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REAL Asians. Geez.
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04-04-2012, 09:23 PM | #15 |
Ninja Mod, Esquire
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Yeah, Tanahashi definitely. But, we all know that won't happen.
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04-04-2012, 09:35 PM | #16 |
Loque Ja
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Googled that dude:
With that look, he would definitely be treated like Yoshi Tatsu. Probably slightly better. Maybe Hunico level "success". |
04-04-2012, 09:44 PM | #17 |
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Is there anyone right now that has a huge enough following worldwide or the US to be even considered by the WWE?
Big reason why Khali and Del Rio got quick pushes to become champion was to take advantage of the huge Latino and Indian markets that were also huge WWE markets. Although Khali didn't get a reign with the top belt and instead the lower World title. Wouldn't be surprised if the first real Asian champion comes from China more than Japan considering how huge of a market the WWE could generate if it was from China like how the NBA benefited huge from Yao Ming's presence in the NBA. Japan and the Samoan Islands produce great wrestlers but don't come close to the huge market China could bring in for the WWE if the champion was from there. |
04-04-2012, 09:46 PM | #18 |
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The problem is finding a big Chinese/Japanese hoss.
I only seem to see cruiser/middle weight guys come from there. It takes a lot more for a non hoss to win the title... |
04-04-2012, 09:47 PM | #19 |
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04-04-2012, 10:46 PM | #20 |
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04-04-2012, 10:51 PM | #21 |
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I don't mean he's bigger than most guys, he stands out and not in a gimmicky way, hair, gear, bitches love him etc
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04-04-2012, 10:52 PM | #22 |
Over Like Rover
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he's more likely to stop random somebody from flicking through TV channels than Jack Swagger is for instance
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04-04-2012, 10:55 PM | #23 |
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04-04-2012, 11:38 PM | #24 |
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I was going to say Chono, but ClockShot already beat me to it. With the revolving door of management around there, I wouldn't be surprised if that was actually in the works in WCW at some point, and got scrapped.
It's going to take a perfect storm for it to happen. WWE seems to love the stereotypical route with Asian guys... only one that broke the mold AND ran with it was Yang, but he didn't have the size to be taken as anything other than champion of what was left of the cruiserweights/light heavyweights/wtfever they were calling the division at the time. By perfect storm, I mean a guy who "looks the shit", but also doesn't OR be made to speak Engrish with a real heavy accent or saddled with some sort of "AAAHHHH, ME SO ASIANNNN" gimmick that he won't recover from. |
04-04-2012, 11:48 PM | #25 |
Loque Ja
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For an Asian dude to get over in America, he would have to have some size to him, and not look like an anime character. Would have to look like one of those badass Asian people who look like they could F you up. Or like a successful CEO businessman. So he would probably need to be a bit of an "older" guy.
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04-04-2012, 11:57 PM | #26 |
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04-05-2012, 01:09 AM | #27 |
Samurai Rocker
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Or how about a gang of tough Japanese wrestlers like CHAOS?
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04-05-2012, 02:15 AM | #28 |
Ball So Hard University
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Sure, why not. Last "Asian" (Samoan) champ was Yoko, and he got over well. Give Albert a run at the WHC and see how he does.
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04-05-2012, 02:15 AM | #29 |
Ball So Hard University
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Oh wait, he's not Asian either. Get a real Asian (someone who is from Asia), and sure.
Great Khali is an Asian. Push that mother fucker to the moon baby! O wait, he was champ. WHO? |
04-05-2012, 03:44 AM | #30 | |
I W C DEEZ NUTZ!
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1) The hair has to go. Might be a big thing with him right now, but it screams "Yoshi Tatsu". Even if he keeps the partial dye job, the mullet looking thing only worked for Eddie. Won't be taken seriously. Crop it like Jericho. 2) Again, his English speaking shouldn't be a characature. If the guy is fucking fluent, don't "Asian him up". 3) There's a difference in letting him come to the ring as a "hotshot pretty boy" accompanied by "two different, hot Asian bitches" as arm charms every week, (sorta like Godfather) as opposed to having him flanked by painted Geishas. Put him in a suit out of the ring and semi-standard ring attire in it as opposed to opting to costume him up in robes like he just stepped out of a Kurisawa film and have his tights have all sorts of Kanji all over it. 4) Have him bunk the perception that an Asian guy = fast, agile, high-flyer. More power moves and mat wrestling, less rope running and 450s off of everything. 5) Also: NO. FUCKING. MIST! Unfortunatly, these seem to be steps that the WWE would CLEARLY avoid, even in this hypothetical. He'd just be another Asian guy pushed as uber-Asian guy. The most he could hope for would be to tag with Yoshi and maybe win a few championships in a revamped tag divison. |
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04-05-2012, 06:08 AM | #31 |
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I think this thread is missing the term "oriental".
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04-05-2012, 06:27 AM | #32 |
I W C DEEZ NUTZ!
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Oriental is a rug, not a race.
But, I see the point that the thread is supposed to be about someone from the FAR EAST, as in clearly and visibly from somewhere like China (the nation, not the "pornstar"), Japan, Korea, etc. People are splitting hairs with the Khali thing. You know full well that wasn't the point. Nobody was trying to think up a Russian champion. |
04-05-2012, 07:13 AM | #33 |
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Morishima probably could have gotten a Mark Henry style push and worked too.
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04-05-2012, 09:08 AM | #34 |
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I was watching NJPW, is that the stable of Masato Tanaka, Jado, Gedo and Yujiro? Even though all four of them are amazing wrestlers (and look in better shape than they did 10 years ago) I dont know if he'd bring them in because of their age. Then again, they did bring back A Train so we never know.
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04-05-2012, 01:58 PM | #35 | |
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Would be a huge market to tap into. Not sure why you guys are pulling the "THAT HAIR IS TOO TATSU" If Tatsu got fired in 6 weeks people would forget him and not care about Tanahashis hair. I think if he was somehow to show up, with a mouth piece, and challenge Punk for BEST IN THE WORLD it could be a pretty decent money draw for a PPV or two. Obviously he would need to last awhile to get the title. the problem with getting someone born and raised in China, Korea, Japan etc is getting them through the major language and cultural gap. |
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04-05-2012, 02:01 PM | #36 | |
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If you have hair like an anime character, you will be treated like a cartoon and not taken seriously. For an "Oriental" to get over, he would need almost a buzz cut so you would know he is "serious business". |
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04-05-2012, 02:17 PM | #37 | |
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CHAOS consist of Shinsuke Nakamura, Toru Yano, Takashi Iizuka, Jado, Gedo, Yujiro, YOSHI-HASHI, Tomohiro Ishii, and Kazuchika Okada, although Masato Tanaka is an associate. |
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04-05-2012, 02:27 PM | #38 | |
It's a blood match!
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If WWE were to do a Japan only PPV and release it on DVD in the States, that could work. But why do you think people would pay for Tanahashi having no idea who he is? They'd just think it was Yoshi Tatsu vs CM Punk. If WWE got Tanahashi for a deal, you'd have to hype him by airing videos from NJPW on Raw, have him do a match where he kills somebody that matters, but also showing the similarities between him and Punk, then it might work. But come on, it would never happen. |
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04-05-2012, 02:31 PM | #39 |
Loque Ja
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Does TNA still do that World X Cup thing? Thought that was always a neat idea.
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04-05-2012, 02:33 PM | #40 |
Out Of Step
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Would actually like to see them do this,maybe just as a Raw main event when they're in Japan/Mexico etc., have them defend a world title or the intercontinental belt against a local name talent.
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