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Old 05-12-2015, 09:43 PM   #161
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To say the most ... Did Wells count on Barry calling for help, and is this part of his plan? Or did he legit just get an ass kicking?

Could see either way.
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Old 05-12-2015, 09:51 PM   #162
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O one other thing

The actor who plays Eddie Thawn has a really good voice. He should do a lot of voice over work.
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Old 05-12-2015, 09:52 PM   #163
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I think he legit got beat, but he is smart enough that he will play it cool and turn it to his advantage.
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Old 05-12-2015, 09:53 PM   #164
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Also, whoa spoiler alert that Oliver is going to live through every crises we see him get into.
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Old 05-12-2015, 09:54 PM   #165
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Not if the timeline changes though.
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Old 05-12-2015, 10:15 PM   #166
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They dodnt air the ep here so I will have to catch in on hulu in the morning
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Old 05-13-2015, 05:39 PM   #167
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Flash was good once again.

The end fight was great.
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Old 05-19-2015, 08:21 PM   #168
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Watching this LIVE unless the time-line changes and it ends up that I don't anymore....
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Old 05-19-2015, 08:22 PM   #169
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Seems like the debate about to change time or not is missing one component in discussion.... is Wells telling the truth....

Seems like everybody is just taking his word for it....
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Old 05-19-2015, 08:39 PM   #170
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That is a good point.

However Tom Cavanagh is just so god darn convincing.
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Old 05-19-2015, 09:02 PM   #171
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Damn.... at that ending... will probably all be undone via time travel shenanigans, though.... Can't see them letting it stand that hundreds of thousands, possibly more, people have died via being sucked into black hole that Barry created just because he wanted to go say goodbye to his mom....
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Old 05-19-2015, 09:05 PM   #173
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not a fan of cliffhangers but the ep was good
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Old 05-19-2015, 09:06 PM   #174
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I should have seen that coming.

But the past 15 years still have to change since the Reverse Flash never existed. Right?
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Old 05-19-2015, 09:08 PM   #175
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Couldn't his Mom still be alive then?
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Old 05-19-2015, 09:09 PM   #176
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Old 05-19-2015, 09:09 PM   #177
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Confused by time travel in general.... If Barry goes back in time to save his mom and saves his mom, he never becomes The Flash until later in his life..... then makes enemies with Thawne who goes back in time and kills his mom. The younger Flash, no longer existing, is not there to save her. Thawne gets trapped back in time and creates The Flash at a younger age, who eventually goes back in time and starts the circle again....
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If Thawne never exists it should mean that he never kills Barry's mom.... Barry doesn't become The Flash until later in life, but this time Thawne isn't around and no one goes back in time to kill his mom and they all live happily ever after.
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But if Thawne never exists, the younger Flash and the whole timeline doesn't exist and Eddie never kills himself. If Eddie never kills himself, Eobard exists and the whole thing does happen and goes in a circle.
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That's what I'm saying!!!!?!?!??!?

Could the singularity be the timeline correcting itself?
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One of those "best not to think of it" things.... or else your brain might be destroyed....
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But if Thawne never exists, the younger Flash and the whole timeline doesn't exist and Eddie never kills himself. If Eddie never kills himself, Eobard exists and the whole thing does happen and goes in a circle.
Omg you are blowing my mind.
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One of those "best not to think of it" things.... or else your brain might be destroyed....
Now you tell me
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Maybe unraveling this mess is what the spin-off is all about, and the first episode of The Flash will have everything "normal" and they'll just say something like "Boy, I'm sure we got that resolved with the other Legends of Tomorrow! I'll tell you all the story, but not until midseason!"
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No way... We will find out at the premiere.

Next question is... How much are they going to travel back to the night Barry's Mom was killed? We know it's defintely at least 1 more time in the future 2024, but will they go back again before that?

Also I think The Flash of 2024 went back in time not just to save young Barry, but to stop Barry of 2015 from saving his Mom.
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Either way Tom Cavanagh needs to be back next year.
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Old 05-19-2015, 09:46 PM   #187
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Perhaps Barry has to seek out Dr Wells to help him get his powers earlier then he was supposed to so he could go back in time to stop himself from saving his mother while dooming Wells in the process.
But yeah my theory as it sits now (haven't seen the finale yet) is this is one of those things where the Villain actually does nothing but gloat and the hero does the work for him. Or Thawne miscalculated when he manipulated Barry the last time and ended up losing everything and he hates Barry for not being the hero he needed to be to stop him.
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Also, when Barry was running, noticed a few things in the images...

- Caitlyn exhibiting ice powers
- Barry in jail
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Also, when Barry was running, noticed a few things in the images...

- Caitlyn exhibiting ice powers
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I'm pretty sure it also showed a scene from Legends of Tomorrow.
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Yeah they're never gonna be able to explain all the changes in the timeline. Its just a paradox. Every single piece of media about time travel has paradox's that can't be explained. Their best bet is to not delve into it too much more and just concentrate on The Flash fighting badly CGI'd zoo animals.
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Old 05-20-2015, 01:28 PM   #192
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Great Finale!

I'm definitely looking forward to the fall and hopefully the quality of the first season carries into the second one.
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Old 05-23-2015, 06:06 PM   #193
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Me and my brothers were talking today and I was thinking that maybe Barry from 2024 is missing because he went back in time to stop Reverse Flash from killing him as a child and was injured the same as Reverse Flash and can't get back to his time.

I don't know, this show has so many possibilities and outcomes to play with that anything could happen. Jay Garretts helmet appearing opens up the posibillity of an Earth 2 which could be cool. Season 2 should just get better.
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Me and my brothers were talking today and I was thinking that maybe Barry from 2024 is missing because he went back in time to stop Reverse Flash from killing him as a child and was injured the same as Reverse Flash and can't get back to his time.

I don't know, this show has so many possibilities and outcomes to play with that anything could happen. Jay Garretts helmet appearing opens up the posibillity of an Earth 2 which could be cool. Season 2 should just get better.
Rather interesting to see that Thawne seemed to have a defintite idea on who the owner of that hat was.
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Old 07-17-2015, 12:25 AM   #196
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Hope he isn't a straight up villain... hope he gets turns out to be a hero later on....
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Neato! I've actually enjoyed his acting, and I love Flash. Should be interesting. And I agree with Lock Jaw. Would be cool to see him become a hero eventually. I don't know shit about Atom Smasher though so I've got no clue if that's even possible.
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He is a hero in the comic books. He becomes a kind of misguided antihero for a bit, though... Before eventually trying to redeem himself...
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Is that seriously what Wally looks like in the comics now...... Sucks....
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