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Old 01-08-2017, 02:23 PM   #9801
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Dylan Bundy had a 4.02 era, 4.52 as a starter. He's injury prone and sucked when moved into the rotation.

Gausman is solid but he'd be the 4th best pitcher on Boston. Same thing with Tillman. Solid arm but would be 4th or 5th best pitcher on Boston.

Jimenez sucks. Why you'd even mention him is beyond me. Miley hasn't posted an era under 4 in 3 years. It was over 5 last year.

Smith is a platoon player and didn't hit 30 homers in Colorado but you think he's gonna hit 30. Lolol.

Kim had minimal time against lefties but he's not a sure fire bet against them. He could be a platoon bat only.

Boston is stacked in the outfield, the rotation and infield. But you don't think they'll be as good. Lol ok.

Lol you're so full of shit Droford. It amazes me sometimes.
4 runs in a single game? Whooooooa Bundy!
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Old 01-08-2017, 02:24 PM   #9802
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Boston added Chris fn Sale. The division is so theirs.
It depends on what/how much Cashman the Hypercritical Asshole/Liar spends.
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Old 01-08-2017, 04:29 PM   #9803
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Won't matter. The free agent market sucks. There's nothing out there. The only way the Yankees could make a huge splash is to trade all the prospects they just got.
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Old 01-08-2017, 05:19 PM   #9804
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Boston added Chris fn Sale. The division is so theirs.
They also replaced David Ortiz .315/.401/.620 with Mitch Moreland (moving Hanley to DH) .233/.298/.422

Trumbo to Seth Smith is somehow worse than that

Plus their starting 3b played 3 games last year and even in a full season prior he hit .245/.292/.366 with 10 hr

If you can't see their offense isnt going to be close to what it was in 2016 (#1 with 5.36 rpg, .282/.348/.461 ) then I don't know what to say. They scored 101 runs more than the next best AL team and you expect that to not change with Mitch Moreland and Pablo Sandoval in the lineup..
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Old 01-08-2017, 05:40 PM   #9805
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The Red Sox scored 134 more runs than the Orioles and 119 more than the Jays and it only got them 4 games up on them. Just imagine what happens when they score fewer runs. They're going to need the better starting pitching..
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Old 01-08-2017, 05:55 PM   #9806
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Their offense is going to take a hit next season for numbers but still should be pretty good overall. Maybe fewer games where they can bail out the pitchers compared to last season.

Ever since 2011, Sox's rotation is going to determine if they succeed or not. Too many years where on paper they had high expectations and ended up being terrible instead. Sale is an improvement over Buchholz but if Price can rebound and Porcello has a decent season, they should be in good shape.
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:31 PM   #9807
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They also replaced David Ortiz .315/.401/.620 with Mitch Moreland (moving Hanley to DH) .233/.298/.422

Trumbo to Seth Smith is somehow worse than that

Plus their starting 3b played 3 games last year and even in a full season prior he hit .245/.292/.366 with 10 hr

If you can't see their offense isnt going to be close to what it was in 2016 (#1 with 5.36 rpg, .282/.348/.461 ) then I don't know what to say. They scored 101 runs more than the next best AL team and you expect that to not change with Mitch Moreland and Pablo Sandoval in the lineup..
You're a dope. Nobody said that Trumbo to Smith was worse. You're just now bringing that up. The argument here is you think team is somehow better despite making no moves to improve while the team you think they're better than improved.

Of course their offense is going to take a hit. Nobody argued that.

What you're ignoring is that they've added one of the best pitchers in the league to prevent giving up runs, so that they don't need to score as many runs as last year to obtain the same or more success.

In other words, instead of trying to replace the runs created by David Ortiz, they decided to improve the about they gave up instead to make up for it.

What people are saying is they're still good. Their outfield is absolutely stacked. Their middle infield is stacked. Moreland had a down year based on balls in play. He's actually a good bounce back candidate. Of course you would've actually had to have looked up numbers to know that.

The only blip on the radar is Sandoval and whether or not he'll bounce back. That's it.

The rotation is ridiculous.

Baltimore meanwhile has an aging first baseman, and mediocre at best second baseman, a mediocre shortstop who can't hit anymore, a centerfielder who can't get on base or field and is declining offensively, a platoon right fielder who can't field, and a left fielder who might be an everyday player but know one knows because his manager benched him half the year.

Then you get to the patch job rotation who's number one starter isn't as good as 3 of the other 4 division rivals' number one.

Followed by one more solid guy, then 2 scrubs who haven't been good in years and a walking dead shoulder who sucked as a starter and gave up 1.5 runs more as a starter than a reliever.

Lol. You just don't have ability to be objective. You try to find ways to upsell your team even when the writing is on the wall.
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:58 PM   #9808
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Lol if Chris Davis is "aging" I guess Mitch Moreland who is a year and a half older found the fountain of youth.
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Excellent way to deflect Droford. Guess it means you're done trying to look dumb by arguing your team is better than the team that's actually trying to get better.
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Old 01-08-2017, 07:04 PM   #9810
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lol all the points he listed and that's your takeaway?
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Old 01-08-2017, 07:12 PM   #9811
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Its the first one I thought of because the article I read said Moreland was older than Chris Davis
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Old 01-08-2017, 09:19 PM   #9812
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They also replaced David Ortiz .315/.401/.620 with Mitch Moreland (moving Hanley to DH) .233/.298/.422

Trumbo to Seth Smith is somehow worse than that

Plus their starting 3b played 3 games last year and even in a full season prior he hit .245/.292/.366 with 10 hr

If you can't see their offense isnt going to be close to what it was in 2016 (#1 with 5.36 rpg, .282/.348/.461 ) then I don't know what to say. They scored 101 runs more than the next best AL team and you expect that to not change with Mitch Moreland and Pablo Sandoval in the lineup..
Chris Sale is use to winning games with 1 or 2 support runs. So maybe they score less runs but they received CHRIS FUCKING SALE.
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Old 01-08-2017, 10:18 PM   #9813
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The need to score is offset when your rotation features arguably the best lefty in the league
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Old 01-08-2017, 10:21 PM   #9814
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I will admit it is pretty unfair to the rest of the league, but Price will still suck in the playoffs.
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Old 01-08-2017, 10:25 PM   #9815
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You can pitch Sale 3 times in each series. Fuck Price.
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Old 01-08-2017, 11:19 PM   #9816
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I think Price will eventually be fine. Not to mention, the goal is to get there. That rotation should do at least that.
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Old 01-09-2017, 12:16 AM   #9817
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Boston is head and shoulders above the rest of their division at this point.
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Boston is head and shoulders above the rest of their division at this point.
As a Jays fan, it hurts me to admit it, but it is true.... Boston should be heads above the division, Toronto/Baltimore/New York will battle it out for second and Tampa, who will be better than 2016, will bring up the rear in the division.
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Old 01-09-2017, 04:48 PM   #9819
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Manny Ramirez is back playing baseball, this time in Japan.

Here's the catch. He signed a deal with the Kochi Fighting Dogs of the Shikoku Island League Plus, an independent league. This league only has 4 teams, and has no ties to NPB.

I'd like to know how much he's getting paid. And if this interferes with Hall of Fame voting since he's about to go on the ballot.
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Chris Sale is use to winning games with 1 or 2 support runs. So maybe they score less runs but they received CHRIS FUCKING SALE.
Which is funny because that's roughly what the Red Sox scored in 3 games of the ALDS (7 runs in 3 games). Even the AL Cy Young couldn't win with that lack of support.
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Yup. So bad they beat the O's for the division.
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Old 01-09-2017, 07:48 PM   #9822
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Hey Droford, how many runs did the O's score in the ALDS? I know the Red Sox only scored 7. Wondering who scored more though.
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Yup. So bad they beat the O's for the division.
By 4 games
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Hey Droford, how many runs did the O's score in the ALDS? I know the Red Sox only scored 7. Wondering who scored more though.
Same number as how many games the Red Sox won
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Old 01-09-2017, 08:18 PM   #9824
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Did Baltimore win the division Droford?
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Old 01-09-2017, 08:19 PM   #9825
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Oh, so they scored 0? Damn. Must suck to be worse than those shitty Red Sox. Does that make the O's extra shitty? Guess so.

Only if the O's could have won more games.
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Did Baltimore win the division Droford?
Only by 4 games. You know if you don't win by at least 5 it does not count. No matter how shitty the Red Sox apparently are and how amazing the O's are.
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Only by 4 games. You know if you don't win by at least 5 it does not count. No matter how shitty the Red Sox apparently are and how amazing the O's are.
But they won the division right?
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Ya but you see on August the 5th the Red Sox played a game where the ump made a bad call which allowed them to win the game. If that never would have happened they would have lost 8 more straight and then would lose the division. - Droford logic.
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Ya but you see on August the 5th the Red Sox played a game where the ump made a bad call which allowed them to win the game. If that never would have happened they would have lost 8 more straight and then would lose the division. - Droford logic.
They beat the Dodgers 9-0. They were 2 games behind the Jays and os who were tied..Amusingly with the best record in the AL.
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The Orioles might sign Hammel since he's not getting any interest. Perfectly Dan Duquette move
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They beat the Dodgers 9-0. They were 2 games behind the Jays and os who were tied..Amusingly with the best record in the AL.
You do realize I made that entire post up right?
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I figured you knew something I didn't about august 5th which is why I looked it up
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So Droford are you attending the division championship flag raising this year for Baltimore?
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I'm going to fan fest on the 28th for the 1st time.
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Maybe you can get Buck to sign your 2016 American League eastern division championship banner
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The only sports jersey I own is an authentic Joe Flacco jersey I got in January of 2009 after the ravens lost to the Steelers in the AFC Championship.

I've never found a baseball jersey that fit
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Maybe they'll sign a commemorative 2016 ALCS program.
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Britton almost got as much for 2017 in arbitration ($11.4 mil) as Machado did ($11.5)..

Also Trumbo has supposedly come way down on what he wants to the point where he might be able to stay in Baltimore.
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