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Old 01-25-2018, 03:58 PM   #81
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What is that guy "Michael Lutz" talking about
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Old 01-25-2018, 04:03 PM   #82
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He sounds like Shawn Michaels in this vid ffs.
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Old 01-25-2018, 04:07 PM   #83
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Old 01-25-2018, 04:16 PM   #84
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National Anthems in sports are dumb. I fully support anyone's right to protest during them. But if Vince McMahon wants his stupid patriot league, and is like DEADSET on those rules, then so be it.
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Old 01-25-2018, 04:18 PM   #85
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Old 01-25-2018, 04:20 PM   #86
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Old 01-25-2018, 04:24 PM   #87
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Old 01-25-2018, 04:25 PM   #88
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Well, Shaun King is a race baiter and jobber on Twitter so this tweet was expected.


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Old 01-25-2018, 04:29 PM   #89
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Plus Vince was clearly talking about Manziel.
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After 2016 I cut myself off from news/politics. Still shows up on my facebook feed which augments in my mind to a box that says "why are you still on here, go live life dude" so I go live life, brother(s)
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Old 01-25-2018, 04:44 PM   #91
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Man you are so right. But i am addickted
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Old 01-25-2018, 05:11 PM   #92
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That Shaun King tweet is quite a stretch from what was actually said.

I mean I think it's total bullshit that Kaepernick has been effectively blackballed from the NFL. Any argument that he's not good enough to play there can be debunked fairly quickly when you compare his career to the Brandon Weedens of the world.

So if he's then told he can't play in the XFL, it's obviously due to his social stances, and it'd be 100% fine to call bullshit on the league.

But there's no evidence yet he won't be allowed to play there and the league is still two years away. So King should cool his jets.
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Old 01-25-2018, 05:16 PM   #93
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National Anthems in sports are dumb. I fully support anyone's right to protest during them. But if Vince McMahon wants his stupid patriot league, and is like DEADSET on those rules, then so be it.
The only song I stand for is Pretty Fly for a White Guy and maybe Christians theme, original version, not the newer one.

The part I find funny is how he said "no politics or social issues!" And then forces his politics on people. It would be easily avoided anyway, just do the anthem before the players come out.

Seems to be a cynical marketing move anyway. It's not like he has the anthem played at Wrestlemania even.
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Old 01-25-2018, 05:33 PM   #96
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Vince gonna vince. If he mandates players stand then if they sign between the dotted lines they know what theyre going to get into.

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Old 01-25-2018, 05:42 PM   #97
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I'm worried that Vince McMahon focusing on this will mean a decline in the quality of WWE programming in the coming months.
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Old 01-25-2018, 07:14 PM   #98
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The only song I stand for is Pretty Fly for a White Guy and maybe Christians theme, original version, not the newer one.

The part I find funny is how he said "no politics or social issues!" And then forces his politics on people. It would be easily avoided anyway, just do the anthem before the players come out.

Seems to be a cynical marketing move anyway. It's not like he has the anthem played at Wrestlemania even.
Right on all counts about the National Anthem its fucking weird the boner this contry has for such an objectively terrible song

I'd be damn proud if the first version of "JUST CLOSE YOUR EYES" was the anthem. Theme was amazing
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Kano Brown.

That's actually not too bad.
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Very interested to see how this develops. That video package mentioned fantasy sports and.....BETTING?!?......makes it seem like they've got lots of other stuff up their sleeve. What they're trying to accomplish is doable, but they have very little room for error.

They've obviously gone all in on crowd source marketing and they're going to lean on it heavily in trying to figure out what they'll do differently from the NFL.
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Old 01-25-2018, 08:31 PM   #101
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Observer on XFL's chances of success looking at it from the perspective of players and television:

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Nobody asked what type of salaries they are going to pay and how that compares to the CFL, as they will be competing for the same type of player. As far as public interest, I don't see this being any different from last time or any of the attempts at second pro football leagues. But the environment is completely different today than in 2001. Whether that allows them to make it is a different story, but it's all about broadcast rights and if you can get a deal that allows you to make money, it doesn't matter about merch sales or ticket sales. And if it's just merch sales and ticket sales, but no significant money from broadcast rights, this doesn't have a chance. There are a lot more outlets, but television and OTT, looking for fringe product and you don't need that many viewers to stay on the air. But you need for someone to pay you a lot to be on the air, so this depends far more on the television/OTT market than the football market.
Vince making the announcement and setting a launch date before getting a network in place is a pretty big blunder. Same for making the anthem debate be one of the big talking points since it can easily backfire and make potential networks a bit wary of wanting to get involved.
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I really think that outside of his wheelhouse Vince sucks

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Very interested to see how this develops. That video package mentioned fantasy sports and.....BETTING?!?......makes it seem like they've got lots of other stuff up their sleeve. What they're trying to accomplish is doable, but they have very little room for error.

They've obviously gone all in on crowd source marketing and they're going to lean on it heavily in trying to figure out what they'll do differently from the NFL.
Vince knows it'll work If you can gamble on it.
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Would you gamble on the XFL in week 1? Not being flippant, honestly curious. I'm not a big gambler so it seems like a crap shoot where as the whole idea of sports betting is because you think you "know something" that gives you an advantage.
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I don't watch football much but I'll give it a shot and see how I like it.
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Vince making the announcement and setting a launch date before getting a network in place is a pretty big blunder. Same for making the anthem debate be one of the big talking points since it can easily backfire and make potential networks a bit wary of wanting to get involved.
On the surface its a huge blunder, yeah. On the flip side, you don't know whats happening behind the scenes. In a perfect world, they've had talks with a few outlets and this announcement piques the interest of the public. Twitter hashtags and youtube views show better than expected viewership and they leverage that to drive up a price on the league.

I mean, I'm throwing spitballs here but they would have to be total idiots to announce this and not have any idea where they want to show it. Not that the WWE or "Alpha" or whatever is above that I guess but maybe I have more faith in Vince than others.

The anthem thing was just asked a bunch of times by the writers. They want Vince to take a hard stance on it to create controversy - not the kind of controversy you want at this stage if you're Vince. It wasn't something Vince brought up on his own. If you're going to say Vince made that a talking point, than he also made a talking point of trying to sell the XFL to San Diego and Pittsburgh.
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First week would probably be a random crapshoot but there's gotta be someone who would have talent evaluations to use.
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On the surface its a huge blunder, yeah. On the flip side, you don't know whats happening behind the scenes. In a perfect world, they've had talks with a few outlets and this announcement piques the interest of the public. Twitter hashtags and youtube views show better than expected viewership and they leverage that to drive up a price on the league.

I mean, I'm throwing spitballs here but they would have to be total idiots to announce this and not have any idea where they want to show it. Not that the WWE or "Alpha" or whatever is above that I guess but maybe I have more faith in Vince than others.

The anthem thing was just asked a bunch of times by the writers. They want Vince to take a hard stance on it to create controversy - not the kind of controversy you want at this stage if you're Vince. It wasn't something Vince brought up on his own. If you're going to say Vince made that a talking point, than he also made a talking point of trying to sell the XFL to San Diego and Pittsburgh.
True.

League itself still has enough time for things to fall into place and the 2 year window is around the range needed based on other sports leagues. Its still a big gamble since Vince is trading away having a network at the start in favor of more time to build and hopefully be interesting enough to attract a good network or platform.

The anthem thing I could see become tricky later if its still a big issue or Trump keeps feuding with the NFL by the time the XFL launches. Vince keeping it as just a simple bullet point helps him a lot but at the same time no players or coaches around to see what their stance or reaction is.
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