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Old 09-04-2015, 10:55 PM   #3361
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You could've said about half the roster. Duquette has failed the team in not acquiring more long term pieces.
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Old 09-04-2015, 11:38 PM   #3362
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Nats tie the game with 2 outs in the 9th against the useless Braves and then win in extras. Mets meanwhile drop an absolute heartbreaker in Miami ending with, of course, Eric O'Flaherty losing it.

Feels like a weird thing to say still up by 5 games in early September but the next 2 feel like must-wins for the Mets. The Braves have absolutely given up and aren't likely to beat the Nats this weekend. So the pressure's on the Mets to avoid heading into Washington on Monday with a shortened division lead when they're scheduled to pitch Jon fucking Niese, who is horrible.
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Old 09-05-2015, 12:11 AM   #3364
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If the Jays make the playoffs I go Stroman, Buehrle, Dickey and Price.

Maroc Estrada is a ticking time bomb and someone is going to overpay a lot for him in the off season. His BABIP is riduclous and he's a fly ball pitcher. Once that starts levelling out he's in trouble.
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The Braves gave up before the season started. Same deal next year, too.
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Sorry Damian Ray....I don't think josh Johnson is gonna work out.
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Maroc Estrada is a ticking time bomb and someone is going to overpay a lot for him in the off season. His BABIP is riduclous and he's a fly ball pitcher. Once that starts levelling out he's in trouble.
Moot point when all those right handed hitters run into KC'S bullpen.
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Kc's starting staff outside of Cueto is suspect. If the Jays can murder their starters before the bullpen kicks in the have more than a shot, and that offense is good enough to do so.

At least Josh Johnson had a glorious afro to admire.
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Old 09-05-2015, 06:15 PM   #3371
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Old 09-05-2015, 06:44 PM   #3372
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Harvey repeatedly said all season that he wasn't worried about his innings. He bitched about the 6-man rotation throwing off his timing even though it was done specifically to allow him to get to the end of the year. And only now in September during a playoff chase is he saying "nah I'm going to listen to Boras and shut myself down."

If he actually does shut himself down after all of this, then fuck him. I hope they trade him in the offseason to whatever AL team offers the most because the constant off-field drama with him is not worth it at all. No one player is above the team. They'd get a haul for him with 3 years of team control and the pitching will still be really good without him, anyway.

Or trade him to Colorado. Have fun earning a 9-figure salary pitching there, Matt.
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Old 09-05-2015, 08:49 PM   #3374
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I can't say I blame him. I think most thought the Mets might make the wildcard maybe. And even then. His long term health may legit be at risk and if he's feeling uncomfortable, Dr Andrews feels it's detrimental or the Mets really did have a hard count that they're now backing out in, it shouldn't reflect negatively just because he's putting his health first.

Best case scenario is they use himas super reliever throwing multiple innings per game. They should probably implement that now. Give him 6 or 9 outs twice a week in the backend of games.
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It was never once relayed as a hard cap even going back to Spring Training. In fact Harvey actually scoffed at the idea of being on an innings limit much like he complained about the 6-man rotation and being skipped occasionally. The plan was always to get him to October.

To wait until fucking September to backtrack and say it's not a soft cap is a complete load of shit on the part of Boras and Harvey. If either of them had been clear about a hard cap in Spring Training, the Mets would have started Harvey's season in May or something and this wouldn't be an issue.
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They should've just stacked him with one of their extra starters and only let him go 5innings a start. He would be at about 150 or so innings by now with plenty of innings left in the tank.
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Pretty tough to stack starters in the Mets' case because they were also trying to cut down the innings for Syndergaard and Matz when they went to a 6-man staff. Using both in one game would be a bit of a waste.

I love the idea of letting a pissed off Harvey start in Washington on Tuesday and then sending him to the bullpen where they clearly need help, but then I'm sure Boras would bitch about that too because of all the extra times he needs to warm up and shit.

Again, this would have all been avoided if Harvey had been more transparent about his limitations at the start of the season instead of portraying himself as an alpha male who will pitch all season and into October and then pussy out out of the blue.

I'm glad Mike Vaccaro wasn't afraid to rip him a new asshole: http://nypost.com/2015/09/05/mets-fa...s-a-hypocrite/
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Couldn't they just save him for the playoffs? They have a five game lead. If he needs to rest. Then let him rest. NL playoff do seem pretty set barring a huge change.
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The NL East is far from set. It's a 5 game lead but they still play the Nats 6 more times and the Nats still have a ton of games against the awful NL East just like the Mets do. And if the Nats beat the Mets in their series next week the division will be really close. The Mets need all hands on deck to avoid blowing this opportunity.

Again, this wouldn't have been an issue if Harvey/Boras had been up front at the start of the year about wanting to maintain a hard cap. The Mets would have accommodated it and either started his season late or skipped more starts earlier in the year. But instead he pissed and moaned about being skipped or having his starts spread out via 6-man rotation. He said he could handle it. And now he's backing out when they need him most.

Even if he comes back tomorrow and backtracks/says he'll keep going into October, he's done irreversible damage to his image in the eyes of fans after talking the talk all year trying to look like the alpha male. And if he really does only have 180 innings, that's 2 more starts tops. I could see him getting booed off the field at Citi on 9/14.
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NO, I DON'T WANT MATT HARVEY!

I'll take 1 or 2 of the pitchers in the upcoming offseason crop, please.
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Yeah, the Mets are gonna choke away this division. Today way scarily reminiscent of 2007.
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Sox are 1 game away from not being in the basement.
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Mets are coming up huge today. Hope they don't blow the 3 run lead in the 9th.
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With how poorly Tampa had played as well, Sox could even reach third place very soon. Just 2 games separate them from Tampa at the moment.
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Today was indeed a huge win, especially fighting back after yet another implosion from Jon Niese.

It's still very important for the Mets to take one of the next two with Harvey and deGrom on the mound. If they lose those next two, it gives the Nats a huge confidence boost. They'd still be down 3 games, but since the final series of the year is against the Mets it means they still control their own destiny and they'd merely need to keep pace to ensure their season will stay alive right up to the final series.

And right now the Mets still are sub-.500 against teams with a winning record on the year. They need to put the hammer down and make a statement here but I'm just not convinced the Nats are ready to die.
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The Jays still haven't lost back to back games since trading for Tulo.
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Mets had a HUGE comeback win. Hope they stomp on Washington's throat next game.
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