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Old 11-05-2007, 06:22 PM   #1961
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So we should ridicule someone who purchased HGH with his name and address over the internet?
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:29 PM   #1962
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You're missing the point. The point is, the use of steroids to gain a competitive advantage. If one person gets caught its foolish to assume there are others who aren't doing it, especially in the NFL. The Pats getting busted was bad, yes, but you wanna try and say no one else is doing something similiar is just as foolish.
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So we should assume everyone in the NFL is guilty of using steroids because a couple people got caught?
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:53 PM   #1964
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Ok, so I shouldn't have said everyone because I don't mean everyone in the literal sense. Are you going to tell me you don't think other players other than the ones caught don't juice? Or that other teams, other than the Patriots don't do things that are technically against the rules, but will be done anyways to gain an advantage? Please.
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I think its pretty irresponsible to go around assuming whos on steroids and who isnt on steroids without any proof what so ever. So i dont. I just make fun of the ones who got caught.
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:00 PM   #1966
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I never assumed anyone specifically. I don't ever accuse anyone who there is no proof of either. A lot of people would easily criticise Barry Bonds for example, but there has never been proof that he absolutely has taken steroids. So for the Rodney Harrisons, Shawne Merrimans (two most recognizable names off the top of my head) of the NFL, there are probably numerous other guys who have done it/still do steroids.
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considering every coach who'se on TV (retired) said they did the same type of things the Pats did to "gain an edge", heck jimmy johnson said he used to have his assitants take the trash from the visiting teams booths.

on a side note, the Pats aren't the first team to accuse the colts of artificial noise.

On Rodney Harrison or any other player who buys it on their own credit card, yeah, you gotta laugh at that, I agree. That being said, I at least give him credit for not trying to fight it, he man'ed up and said what he did when they had the info, he could have fought it since their is no test and the league policy isn't buying but using.

I am happy they have the Merriman rule now, so anyone suspended for roids can't make the pro-bowl
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LOL @ the Pats claiming someone else was cheating. To fucking funny.
You even posted the clip yourself and said something, it was investigated and cleared up. I don't see the big deal

That is pretty funny they moved the Buffalo game to Sunday night, however Dallas @ Buffalo was the highest rated Monday Night Football game this year I think, so that might have something to do with it.
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LOL @ the Pats claiming someone else was cheating. To fucking funny.
Yeah because the Pats's cheating in week 1 means they shouldn't call another team out on cheating.
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Who is a potential #1 pick in next year's draft if the Jets get the #1 pick?
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For the Jets, I'd say..

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Do they need a d-tackle? If then Glenn Dorsey too

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Yeah because the Pats's cheating in week 1 means they shouldn't call another team out on cheating.

Yah especially when there so terribly wrong and make themselves look like little bitches.
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The only difference is when they broke the rules they at least won. And the Pats "cheating" thing is so stupid its not even worth talking about.
And I agree, the Colts cheating thing isn't worth talking about. Why would I care anyways, they lost.
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Yah especially when there so terribly wrong and make themselves look like little bitches.
You're an idiot, it was a simple investigation because of how it came off on TV. You even said something yourself, so I guess you look like a little bitch too since you had some doubt when you posted that sound clip?

Doesn't really matter now though

Also, "The Pittsburgh Steelers complained about the same thing after a 26-7 loss at the dome in November 2005." - CBSSportsline
http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10454093
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Yeah that's just wishful thinking on my part, I bet they trade down to pick up a few linebackers or something.
It's like the worst kept secret in the league that Jerry Jones wants McFadden, so that could definitely happen.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

He hasn't updated in a while but this guy knows a fair bit
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I don't get why the Cowboys would want McFadden, they already have Barber and Jones. Unless they are planning to get rid of one (I'd have to assume it would Jones, since Barber is a lot better than him IMO)
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Yeah, they lost their pick, which would probably be up in the 30s. The 5 is San Francisco's
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Yah especially when there so terribly wrong and make themselves look like little bitches.
So what if they were wrong? Doesn't mean they should have done nothing about the speculation.
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Steelers - Antoine Cason

Defense has always been a big emphasis for the Steelers but in recent years the secondary just hasn't played up to expectations, especially the corners, so look for them to make some moves there in the near future. Since signing a new contract Ike Taylor's play has really fallen off and since Ricardo Colclough is now set to become a free agent it would make some sense for them to bring in a corner relatively early on Draft Day and Antoine Cason would be a great fit. Even though he doesn't have elite timed speed Cason is a true playmaker and that is something Mike Tomlin stresses.


Hell yes. Cards could use him too.

Also look for: Louis Holmes, Willie Tuitama (but I think he's staying another year), Spencer Larsen, Keenyn Crier (sp), GRONKOWSKI, and maybe Fontenot.

I think only Holmes is eligible this year though.
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I don't get why the Cowboys would want McFadden, they already have Barber and Jones. Unless they are planning to get rid of one (I'd have to assume it would Jones, since Barber is a lot better than him IMO)
Both are free agents after this year (Barber restricted), which means that one of them, most likely Julius Jones, is leaving.

The reason why the Cowboys "want" McFadden involves Jerry Jones' little fetish with having a star from Arkansas on the team. Since McFadden is not only is from Arkansas, but also plays a position that would attract attention upon him as a star, Jerry Jones would take him over the ressurection of Johnny Unitas. Either way, the Cowboys are not going to get him because the Browns are good this year and Jerry Jones was made to look like a complete twatstain for making that awful trade in the draft.

On a related issue, Marion Barber is not an every down back, contrary to what many people want. He's most effective in the role he is in right now, which is as a tough change of pace back who gets 10-15 carries a game, and his production would decline if they gave him the ball more often than not. So, the Cowboys really do need another running back to even things out back there. Julius Jones does a fine job of that, but either way, the Cowboys are going to need a Julius Jones-like running back along with Marion Barber.
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Pacman Jones is still suspended for the season.

Goodell must really be pissed at him.
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A Denver station reported Larry Johnson is out for the season siting a KC sourse.

nothing from KC yet, anyone have some info? where's our chiefs fan?
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So what if they were wrong? Doesn't mean they should have done nothing about the speculation.

Its called get your facts straight and stop acting like little 10 year girls.
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RP you're being ridiculous. The Pats got caught in week 1. If anything that taints the past, not the present or future. The Pats are kicking the shit out of everyone right now, save the Colts, whom they still beat. Nothing was proven past the point that someone was caught on the sideline with a camera. What else was proven? What was proven about past seasons? Give it a rest. You're just looking for an excuse to try to bring down one of the greatest team performances in the history of the sport. You're jealous its not your team. You know this, or else you wouldn't give a shit about what happened.
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