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09-08-2014, 08:38 PM | #922 |
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Forgot. Domestic violence is totally cool as long as it's woman on man.
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09-08-2014, 08:40 PM | #923 |
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Could have been worse given how the game started, hopefully offense can get going
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09-08-2014, 08:41 PM | #924 |
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Just keep throwing at Slay
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09-08-2014, 08:42 PM | #925 |
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...well to be fair, that's kinda what you did do on the scoring drive lol
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09-08-2014, 08:42 PM | #926 |
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09-08-2014, 08:51 PM | #927 |
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RDD supports domestic violence.
It's either than or you're not capable of rational thought. In your defense, it's actually probably the latter. |
09-08-2014, 08:54 PM | #928 |
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You're trying to sound a lot smarter than you are. You really look daft right now.
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09-08-2014, 08:56 PM | #929 |
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Great argument. Everything you've said has amounted to "But nuh uh!" My point still stands. Thanks.
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09-08-2014, 08:58 PM | #930 |
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I really have no desire to ever discuss/argue anything with anyone on the internet who plays the "thanks" or "Champ" or other patronizing card. Speak to me like you're not so far up your own ass and maybe I'll consider talking about this with you.
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09-08-2014, 09:00 PM | #931 |
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Oh okay. I'll use some proper RDD arguing tactics.
YOU'RE WRONG. Better? |
09-08-2014, 09:02 PM | #932 |
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This is going nowhere, enjoy.
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09-08-2014, 09:02 PM | #933 |
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I can't even with you. You're wrong. Shut up.
There. Properly discussing the subject like someone who doesn't have their head up their own ass, right? |
09-08-2014, 09:03 PM | #934 |
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Basically what I'm saying is don't start a discussion with someone with "Words escape mes" and "You're wrong, shut ups" and then complain that THEY are speaking like they've got their head up their ass, dipshit.
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09-08-2014, 09:11 PM | #935 |
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DRC is looking like a massive waste of money. Jesus.
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09-08-2014, 09:20 PM | #936 |
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Fuckballs
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09-08-2014, 09:21 PM | #937 |
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Wonder who the Giants will take with their top 10 pick next year.
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09-08-2014, 09:28 PM | #938 |
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Don't worry, you'll still be able to beat up on Dallas and Washington
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09-08-2014, 09:31 PM | #939 |
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09-08-2014, 09:51 PM | #940 |
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Ah well. I didn't really expect them to win this one. 2 home games coming up. Just can't afford to get off to a 2013-esque start.
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09-08-2014, 10:13 PM | #941 |
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Early candidate for MVP award this year? |
09-08-2014, 10:19 PM | #942 |
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As much as I fucking adore Calvin, it's tough for a non-QB to win MVP. Would be boss if he does, though
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09-09-2014, 12:08 AM | #943 |
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09-09-2014, 12:30 AM | #944 |
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lol This guy
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09-09-2014, 01:03 AM | #945 |
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09-09-2014, 02:02 AM | #946 |
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#1wwffan. I don't understand what you are trying to say. She grazed him a couple of times from what I saw and he retaliated by beating her unconscious in an elevator. Is that equal to you? Sounds like you are doing a whole lot of victim blaming.
Like seriously. Explain yourself. What do you mean? She deserved to get her head bounced of of an elevator railing and dragged through a hall like a corpse? Last edited by Nark Order; 09-09-2014 at 02:21 AM. |
09-09-2014, 02:07 AM | #947 | |
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09-09-2014, 02:40 AM | #948 |
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The video was worse than what I expected. She could have broken her neck on that railing of the elevator.
Can't believe ESPN showed the video of it. Ten seconds later they aired an interview where Chris Canty said "it's disgusting to air the video." |
09-09-2014, 02:46 AM | #949 | |
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09-09-2014, 02:49 AM | #950 |
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Droford, what world do you even live on.
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09-09-2014, 02:55 AM | #951 |
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you can't see some woman who's a wannabe mma fighter being involved with a football player and she catches him cheating and decides to beat the hell out of him...as has been said in tons of tweets "there's never a reason for a man to hit a woman" which I guess includes even when the woman is trying to pound him into a pulp.
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09-09-2014, 03:08 AM | #952 |
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I just don't understand why you would think that was even worth bringing up. Nobody should hit anybody, you're right on that. But it can't be ignored that male on female violence happens quite a fuckton more than female on male, and I'm willing to bet that female on male domestic violence rarely leads to severe injury. I'm not saying it isn't EVER an issue, but men are bigger, stronger, and more aggressive on average than most women. A guy like Ray Rice could easily kill a woman of that size with his bare hands and he almost did.
When you say things like that, it makes me wonder how you are a person. |
09-09-2014, 03:52 AM | #953 |
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I don't think any human being should ever hit another human being. Fuck gender. Like I said, yes he could have and SHOULD have grabbed her to control her. Maybe pinned her down and called the cops. But in all the "domestic violence" people seem to try really hard to ignore the fact that she literally committed domestic violence. This whole thing has basically sent the message that domestic violence is totally fine if you're a woman.
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09-09-2014, 03:56 AM | #954 |
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And I don't know why you're bringing up the fact that male on female violence happens a fuckton more than female on male. First of all, I don't know if that's true. It could very well just be that it doesn't get reported as much because, like you said, it doesn't lead to severe injury as much. It's still violence. Secondly though, who cares? We're talking about this one case. Where a woman attacked a man and people don't want to speak up and say she was wrong for it because it's an uncomfortable truth. If there was a video of a man attacking a woman and then the woman knocking the guy out, it would be a hilarious viral video with everyone commenting how "LOL he got what he deserved!"
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09-09-2014, 04:03 AM | #955 |
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I do wanna make it clear that I'm not completely siding with Droford though who seems to actually be defending Ray Rice hitting her. lol
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09-09-2014, 05:21 AM | #956 |
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I completely understand the reaction from people toward Rice and its valid. However the fact that we cant have a conversation about women needing to be held equally accountable with out people scoffing at the notion is a serious problem.
Had a male struck him the same number of times it would legally (in my state) be considered self defense. Now im not claiming he was in danger. Again, the reaction toward his actions is justified, however there is a double standard based on sex that is unnacceptable. Striking a violent man is a sure fire way to get your self struck back and at the very least there needs to a conversation about educating women that this isnt a wise action. That it isnt ok to punch him "because you're a girl and he cant hit you." Further more the law needs to reflect that either A) the heaviest person shoulld be held to a higher flee standard or B) we need to ignore the sex issue. And most importantly people need to start taking this equality concept seriously because its things like this doble standard here that will keep women making .80¢ to a mans dollar for a long time to come. The people who stand by her hitting him as not being a legitimate crime are holding equality back. |
09-09-2014, 05:55 AM | #957 |
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I don't know. You guys are sounding like Stephen A. Smith when he basically said women it bring on themselves.
If I were you were guys I wouldn't say what I'm saying in public. |
09-09-2014, 06:19 AM | #958 |
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It's wrong to hit another person unless it's absolutely necessary to defend yourself. That's pretty much the statement I'm making. Somehow, that = "Women bring it on themselves". And that kind of willing ignorance about what's actually being said in favor of jumping to "VICTIM BLAMING!" at the first mention that the woman may have done something wrong as well, much less something clearly illegal, is the problem.
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09-09-2014, 09:37 AM | #959 |
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So this was posted by Janay Rice this morning:
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09-09-2014, 10:09 AM | #960 |
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Is there an extended version of the video I haven't seen? I saw her flick her wrist at him when they were outside the elevator. Seemed like she may have grazed him or something. Not seeing her actually "hit" him. And any type of domestic violence isn't OK persay, but we tend to focus on damage for a reason. If a woman starts it with a small slap and then gets absolutely ragdolled unconscious, that isn't equal. "Defending yourself" and almost killing somebody because they got you angry are pretty different. What part of that looked like self defense? At what point did he look in danger? At what point was he fearing for his life?
That's the difference. And people doing the "she brought it on herself" line is why domestic violence doesn't get properly addressed in society. |