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Old 06-08-2018, 08:13 AM   #42721
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Lol the Hart vs Bischoff pissing match is my favourite thing on the internet.
Bret may over state his ability (particularly drawing potential) but he at least tells the damned truth. You always praise Meltzer for “getting it right” and he almost 100 p backs Bret on everything.
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:59 AM   #42722
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Lol it's two guys who are completely full of themselves, lobbing insults that are so beyond ridiculous
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Old 06-08-2018, 09:23 AM   #42723
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Lol the Hart vs Bischoff pissing match is my favourite thing on the internet.
It's as good as Dr. Amann filing a defamation suit for emotional distress because his cranberry sauce tasted yucky because of mean tweets from Mike Litoris
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Old 06-08-2018, 11:06 AM   #42724
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What Happened When is the best Conrad podcast. I was never into NWA/JCP but I still listen to the shows because Tony is great
This. I am constantly going through the Playlist on YouTube.
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Old 06-08-2018, 01:44 PM   #42725
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Lol it's two guys who are completely full of themselves, lobbing insults that are so beyond ridiculous
LOL Okay you got me there.
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Old 06-08-2018, 03:36 PM   #42726
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Jim Cornette insulted Dana Loesch again and the right wing brigade is losing their shit. Tremendous.
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Old 06-08-2018, 03:47 PM   #42727
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WWEShop are selling yet another Roman Reigns T-Shirt, just a week after putting another Roman Reigns T-Shirt up for sale.



I can only assume that we'll see another Roman Reigns T-Shirt within a week, or a week and a half at the most.
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Old 06-08-2018, 04:00 PM   #42728
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Old 06-08-2018, 04:03 PM   #42729
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Old 06-08-2018, 05:38 PM   #42730
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If the heels didn't have a point with their protestations, maybe they wouldn't be cheered.
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:09 PM   #42731
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There are better WWE 24 specials, but that one is about women so it does have a slightly better chance. (But realistically no chance)
But the thing is this isn't a feminist-friendly company. They do business deals with Saudi Arabia, don't pay their women as much as the men in a company where they claim they are "equal" (I'm not saying that as performers they are, that's just company narrative) and you still get the sense the company keeps some around because they are hot. Their feuds are still based on hair-pulling and mean nicknames. High school drama, because girls love #HighSchoolDrama.
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:10 PM   #42732
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Shocking that they aren't showing any Smackdown episodes to really show off Kevin Dunn's cutting edge work on Windows Movie Maker. Those Emmy voters would eat that shit up.
You're basically on fire on this subject, but this is just a general of support.
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:27 PM   #42733
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Conrad Thompson has done well for himself. I don't have any ill will towards him, but his podcasts just have this ring of "let's suck up under the guise of telling it like it is." I can't believe how successful Bruce's bullshit is. Tony is a funny guy, but there was so much "I don't remember," "WWF was always better -- I should have stayed there." I refuse to listen to Bischoff's. I like Bischoff as a performer, but as a person he is so full of shit. The company fell apart in such a public way that I don't think there is much left to say. Bischoff sold the company's soul to the devil in order to buy a few huge years with Hogan and the nWo, and then things turned ironic.

Russo can just fuck off forever, thanks. I get so infuriated when I hear people actually defend him like it's not a myth that has been completely busted. The worst is that you can't reason with people like that, because it's such an unreasonable position. But there are still people who credit Russo as the mastermind behind the WWF's success, and some even go as far as to credit him for 2000 as well, because he "planned ahead." I also get annoyed by the "he seems like a nice guy" narrative when he has tried to fuck over everybody he has worked with to get himself into position. Which would just be office politics if he didn't deny being that sort of person. He's also a misogynistic, homophobic piece of shit. Grrr, he angers me so fucking much! I seriously want to start a "Fuck Vince Russo" thread and just post in it every couple of weeks about what a piece of shit this guy is. The dude actually wrote a book that included phrases about how hard the business has been on his family, and it's still his fucking chosen profession as he sooks about how wrestling hurts his kids.

I've been listening to Cornette's podcasts more frequently recently. I don't disagree with Cornette on much politically, but I prefer it when he talks about wrestling, because that's why I listen. But fuck me if his promo on the right-wing wasn't fucking hilarious this week. The guy's magic on the mic. One of those comedy news shows should hire him to do a segment where he chimes in like those 1997 Raw ones but for politics.

Cornette occasionally focuses on one subject with his "deep dives." I like Brian's questions too. But I would like to see Cornette do a "go through the Observer" look at the WWF during the Attitude era or something like that. I'd like to hear more specifics on how Russo was full of shit, or how things were supposed to go. The WWE narrative is kind of that they got to 1998 and then they were great and everything was sunshine and roses, and there isn't really anyone to give an honest take on the creative process. JR is someone that could shine a lot of light too.

I'd actually like to hear a Cornette/Shiavone podcast, with Shiavone playing more of the apologist and Cornette slapping down the silly.
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:28 PM   #42734
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But the thing is this isn't a feminist-friendly company. They do business deals with Saudi Arabia, don't pay their women as much as the men in a company where they claim they are "equal" (I'm not saying that as performers they are, that's just company narrative) and you still get the sense the company keeps some around because they are hot. Their feuds are still based on hair-pulling and mean nicknames. High school drama, because girls love #HighSchoolDrama.
Assuming WWE still hasn't done it, the worst might be promising their women's division an extra paycheck because of the Saudi mess and not actually giving it to them so far.
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:29 PM   #42735
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The SCG Radio Timelines are really good for the Attitude era stuff, to be honest. I recently went back and listened to them all again. It's crazy how obvious certain things are when you go back and really look at the period. But it'd be cool to get one with an insider.
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Old 06-08-2018, 09:30 PM   #42736
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Old 06-08-2018, 09:37 PM   #42737
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Come on, Harold Meij. Call Heyman. Get Brock. Let him do UFC. Get Bryan. Sell TV to Paramount for cheap. You can do this.
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Old 06-08-2018, 09:42 PM   #42738
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Call The Rock. Call Conor McGregor if you need to. Wrestling needs something.
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Old 06-08-2018, 11:56 PM   #42739
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NJPW wouldn't be able to afford McGregor even if they wanted to considering even WWE balked at the idea of having him show up for an appearance due to his high price.

Think he made more money in his fight against Mayweather than NJPW did as a company last year.
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Old 06-09-2018, 12:48 AM   #42740
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Old 06-09-2018, 01:25 AM   #42742
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But the thing is this isn't a feminist-friendly company. They do business deals with Saudi Arabia, don't pay their women as much as the men in a company where they claim they are "equal" (I'm not saying that as performers they are, that's just company narrative) and you still get the sense the company keeps some around because they are hot. Their feuds are still based on hair-pulling and mean nicknames. High school drama, because girls love #HighSchoolDrama.
DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE HISTORIC FIRST EVER WOMEN'S ROYAL RUMBLE?!?!?!?!

OR THE HISTORIC FIRST EVER WOMEN'S GAUNTLET MATCH?!?!?!?!
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Old 06-09-2018, 01:40 AM   #42743
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Lacey Evans. Kairi Sane. Bianca Belair. Lots of great talent in NXT right now.
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Old 06-09-2018, 05:01 AM   #42744
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I haven't listened to Art of Wrestling in several years, but felt the need to tune in this week. Colt recorded a synopsis after each day of the trial and he released them all today now that the trial is over. Pretty interesting insight to what going through a trial is like.
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Big fan of Shayna Bazler too if she talks less.
I also think Shayna should talk less.
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Old 06-09-2018, 06:24 AM   #42746
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Old 06-09-2018, 08:24 AM   #42747
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Call The Rock. Call Conor McGregor if you need to. Wrestling needs something.
To be honest, I'd rather not see outside stars come anywhere near wrestling. Ronda Rousey has seemingly already lost everything that made her special. She's not an actor and cannot do wrestling skits. She should have just been portrayed as a no-nonsense killer who breaks arms. Conor McGregor would come in as a big deal and then probably be paired up with Hornswoggle within a few months to appeal to kids.
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Old 06-09-2018, 08:25 AM   #42748
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To be honest, I'd rather not see outside stars come anywhere near wrestling. Ronda Rousey has seemingly already lost everything that made her special. She's not an actor and cannot do wrestling skits. She should have just been portrayed as a no-nonsense killer who breaks arms. Conor McGregor would come in as a big deal and then probably be paired up with Hornswoggle within a few months to appeal to kids.
I want to see that.
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Old 06-09-2018, 09:06 AM   #42749
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Conrad Thompson has done well for himself. I don't have any ill will towards him, but his podcasts just have this ring of "let's suck up under the guise of telling it like it is." I can't believe how successful Bruce's bullshit is. Tony is a funny guy, but there was so much "I don't remember," "WWF was always better -- I should have stayed there." I refuse to listen to Bischoff's. I like Bischoff as a performer, but as a person he is so full of shit. The company fell apart in such a public way that I don't think there is much left to say. Bischoff sold the company's soul to the devil in order to buy a few huge years with Hogan and the nWo, and then things turned ironic.
Yeah, given the nature of his brand and his reliance on "name" personalities, Conrad has to play nice. I also think he's just a giant WWF fan and doesn't want to piss people off. People who take those podcasts as gospel are fucking marks to the highest degree.
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Old 06-09-2018, 10:00 AM   #42750
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Where is this idea of Conrad being a WWF fan who "sucks up" and doesn't want to piss people off coming from? I constantly hear him flat out talking shit about WWE. Whether its terrible booking decisions or calling out Vince on being kind of a piece of shit.
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Where is this idea of Conrad being a WWF fan who "sucks up" and doesn't want to piss people off coming from? I constantly hear him flat out talking shit about WWE. Whether its terrible booking decisions or calling out Vince on being kind of a piece of shit.
It's because he balances it out with reverence and praise. Though I'll concede that it's probably because he actually just DOES like Vince and the WWE. But compared to Meltzer he doesn't go SUPER hard in on the criticism I guess.
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Old 06-09-2018, 01:20 PM   #42752
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I mean, he definitely does balance it out but we all would in the same situation. WWE hasn't always been utter shit and Vince isn't an immoral piece of shit 100% of the time. He seems to call out the bad shit and praise the good. He's definitely not afraid to piss people off. The Pillman episode is a good example. He calls out Vince for how he handled the announcement of his death and the Melanie interview without hesitation and won't let Bruce brush it off.

Of course, the Network show he definitely seems to toe the line more. Which is why I forgot about that show after episode one.
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Old 06-09-2018, 01:45 PM   #42753
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NJPW wouldn't be able to afford McGregor even if they wanted to considering even WWE balked at the idea of having him show up for an appearance due to his high price.

Think he made more money in his fight against Mayweather than NJPW did as a company last year.
McGregor would be a baffling decision because nobody in Japan would know who the fuck he was, he's not a pro wrestler so they would also be taking a huge gamble on him not being the shits.

Brock also would be dumb, especially since he totally fucked them over last time he was there and only cares about the money. They're definitely not going to bankroll having him come in just to steamroll all their top stars like Vince has.
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It's not that big of a deal but it does annoy me when people think that NJPW needs American "superstars" to get over in the USA. Be logical... McGregor? Lesnar? to NJPW are you living in this reality?
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Old 06-09-2018, 05:20 PM   #42755
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It's not that big of a deal but it does annoy me when people think that NJPW needs American "superstars" to get over in the USA. Be logical... McGregor? Lesnar? to NJPW are you living in this reality?
It will only do so much. Unless they drastically change their product NJPW will always be a niche product. There's nothing wrong with trying to grow that niche, but they should stick to that. Every time they've made major decisions for marketing and profit reasons its bit them in the ass hard.
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