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Old 09-13-2007, 09:39 AM   #641
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VEL, is your gimmick on these boards just to continually missed the point? Is that it? First of all, VEL and MVP. NO OTHER TEAM has every been caught using video equipment to spy on another teams sidelines to pick up there signals. Let alone get caught twice like your beloved Patriots. Second, If this was the Colts, i'd be fucking livid. I'd be so pissed. But if this was the Browns or Lions, i'd be like " get off there back " . The point being, that if your team are recent Superbowl champions and are expected to go on and win another one this year and your using camera's to spy on other people's signals, to quote the great Bill Simmons " Thats seedy ". And to add to that, its fucking lame. Really lame. Its embarressing.
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Old 09-13-2007, 10:22 AM   #642
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VEL, is your gimmick on these boards just to continually missed the point? Is that it? First of all, VEL and MVP. NO OTHER TEAM has every been caught using video equipment to spy on another teams sidelines to pick up there signals. Let alone get caught twice like your beloved Patriots. Second, If this was the Colts, i'd be fucking livid. I'd be so pissed. But if this was the Browns or Lions, i'd be like " get off there back " . The point being, that if your team are recent Superbowl champions and are expected to go on and win another one this year and your using camera's to spy on other people's signals, to quote the great Bill Simmons " Thats seedy ". And to add to that, its fucking lame. Really lame. Its embarressing.
no, my gimmick like most is to laugh at you having a hissy fit.

I never denied they broke a rule, and I'm ok with whatever punishment they get for breaking that rule. But your hypothetical version which wasn't even possible was really funny "at half time they..." umm, yeah, the guy was nailed in the 1st qtr.

they broke this rule once, since last year it was perfectly legal to video tape whatever you want. The rule went into effect this year.

How did Mangini know? because it's nothing new, they did it when he was here that's how he knew about it.

I know, you're colts are perfect saints, they never do anything wrong, I mean Bill Polian never wanted Doug Flutie's leg broken and Polian never physically attacked a Jets employee because he thought speakers were to close to the field, I know, I know... the Colts are perfect angels...

What's funny is this big hissy fit you're taking and what's even more funny is you somehow think this has anything to do with the past superbowls won, how Harrison taking HGH after an injury (post superbowls) somehow taints their superbowl wins 3 (in case you forgot), that the Patriots breaking a rule in Sept 2007 somehow cancels those superbowl wins. That's funny.

As for "they're desperate, they're spending money", no more or less then before, they're spending the same amount of the salary cap as they were before, they got a good deal for Randy Moss, they spend big money on top LB's twice during the belicheck era, Samuel is playing under a 1yr deal based off the franchise tag rules.

I can't wait for the Pats v. Colts game this year, is the Pats win what will be your new excuse? They enforce pass interfearance on all teams to the full extent (sometimes overboard), Rodney will have served his suspension for HGH and their are no cameras... what then would be your excuse if the Pats win, I'm sure you'll find something.

So, I'm not wasting my time to go back on your other non-sense, I think everyone else pretty much took care of that for me.

Just be honest with yourself, everyone here knows you hate the Patriots because they had the Colts number for a few years.
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Old 09-13-2007, 10:25 AM   #643
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That's real funny considering his teammate was caught cheating last year.
I know, LT is such a great player but I'm really starting not to like him because he doesn't think before he speaks.

The other best one is Hines Ward is now claiming the Patriots only beat the Steelers because "they knew what are offense was doing".

Umm, I know Hines is a vertran NFL player, and I'm just a fan... but should someone remind Hines the QB gets the plays via an ear peace, not from hand signals... I mean, that Troy Brown punt return... and the blocked kick... I'm sure those were stolen signals...
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oh yeah RP, last question for you....

If the Patriots have been stealing signals and at half time figuring out the tape to help the 2nd half... then please explain why they lost to the Colts in the AFC championship?

I mean, if they knew all the defenses then you think they could have put a few points on the board?
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Old 09-13-2007, 10:55 AM   #645
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VEL, is your gimmick on these boards just to continually missed the point? Is that it? First of all, VEL and MVP. NO OTHER TEAM has every been caught using video equipment to spy on another teams sidelines to pick up there signals. Let alone get caught twice like your beloved Patriots. Second, If this was the Colts, i'd be fucking livid. I'd be so pissed. But if this was the Browns or Lions, i'd be like " get off there back " . The point being, that if your team are recent Superbowl champions and are expected to go on and win another one this year and your using camera's to spy on other people's signals, to quote the great Bill Simmons " Thats seedy ". And to add to that, its fucking lame. Really lame. Its embarressing.
Don't expect me to beileve that you would actually be fucking livid if the Colts got caught stealing signals. I guarantee you'd take the reasonable position that VEL, myself, and the rest of the board have taken. Even NFL Live said that there are probably other teams that have done this in one form of another, and they just haven't been caught yet. You and I both know that these supposed accusations don't make the difference between being a Super Bowl caliber team and not. Of course it's embarassing and I'm dissapointed in what happened, but it's done with.

I just can't wait til the Colts get caught cheating or one of the players confesses to taking HGH. You'll never hear the end of it.
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Also, am I the only one who finds it repulsive that Peyton Manning is on every other commercial on TV now?
Yeah, I picked up on this and I live in a different fucking country.
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Old 09-13-2007, 11:53 AM   #647
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no, my gimmick like most is to laugh at you having a hissy fit.

I never denied they broke a rule, and I'm ok with whatever punishment they get for breaking that rule. But your hypothetical version which wasn't even possible was really funny "at half time they..." umm, yeah, the guy was nailed in the 1st qtr.

they broke this rule once, since last year it was perfectly legal to video tape whatever you want. The rule went into effect this year.

How did Mangini know? because it's nothing new, they did it when he was here that's how he knew about it.

I know, you're colts are perfect saints, they never do anything wrong, I mean Bill Polian never wanted Doug Flutie's leg broken and Polian never physically attacked a Jets employee because he thought speakers were to close to the field, I know, I know... the Colts are perfect angels...

What's funny is this big hissy fit you're taking and what's even more funny is you somehow think this has anything to do with the past superbowls won, how Harrison taking HGH after an injury (post superbowls) somehow taints their superbowl wins 3 (in case you forgot), that the Patriots breaking a rule in Sept 2007 somehow cancels those superbowl wins. That's funny.

As for "they're desperate, they're spending money", no more or less then before, they're spending the same amount of the salary cap as they were before, they got a good deal for Randy Moss, they spend big money on top LB's twice during the belicheck era, Samuel is playing under a 1yr deal based off the franchise tag rules.

I can't wait for the Pats v. Colts game this year, is the Pats win what will be your new excuse? They enforce pass interfearance on all teams to the full extent (sometimes overboard), Rodney will have served his suspension for HGH and their are no cameras... what then would be your excuse if the Pats win, I'm sure you'll find something.

So, I'm not wasting my time to go back on your other non-sense, I think everyone else pretty much took care of that for me.

Just be honest with yourself, everyone here knows you hate the Patriots because they had the Colts number for a few years.

First, whats your source on the Polian saying he wanted Flutie's leg broken? Oh thats right. Its the pressbox . It was heard by the press. But oddly enough, never written about. Weird. Talk out of you ass much?

Polian physically attacked an employee? WHAT THE FUCK ARE SMOKING DUDE ROFL. Really funny that Bill Polian, a GM for a football team, somehow managed to attack a Jets employee and saw no fine or punishment what so ever. Hilarious. You're becomming a major joke VEL. Dont get me wrong, i saw it being reported, but if it was true, why didnt the Jets make a big deal out of it and why was he not fined? Ohhh gee i wonder why.

LOL @ you and the 1st quarter thing. Its called taking the piss you fucking moron. Yah, i really think Belechek went in and said " BRING FORTH ... THE CAMERA ". God damn your stupid.


Everyone knows i hate the Patriots? DUHHHHHHHHHHHHH. I sure as fuck dont like them? I dont think i've ever given off the impression that i like them. It still dont mean your team are not cheaters. Cheating is cheating and it aint cheating if you dont get caught. You got caught. Deal with it. Your coach is a supposed genius who has writers following him around to watch his genius in action so they can write novels about him. Some genius he is.

And i'm positive that the Colts dont use cameras to video tape defensive signs. Not Tony Dungy. I'm sorry. And if you think Tony Dungy would do something like that, you have something wrong in your head. Tony Dungy dont cheat.

Obviously i cant be 100% sure that anyone on the Colts are not taking HGH. No one can. And that sucks. But i'm pretty damn sure none of them are so fucking retarded as to use an online steroid service and use there actual name and address. BRILLIANT!

And yes, you've still missed the point. All i've heard for the past 6 years is how amazing the Patriots are. How many rings they have. How great Brady is ( he is ). But yet they have to use video cameras to spy on opposing defenses to get an edge. So sad. Seedy indeed. And yet you dont get it. Cause you cant pull your head out of your ass long enough to get it.
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oh yeah RP, last question for you....

If the Patriots have been stealing signals and at half time figuring out the tape to help the 2nd half... then please explain why they lost to the Colts in the AFC championship?

I mean, if they knew all the defenses then you think they could have put a few points on the board?
Beacause they're shitty cheaters.

Also i find it funny that you admit they cheat and that Mangini new about it. Then you make another post implying that they dont cheat by asking me that question. Its like your playing both sides of the field here to make a point against me. Its great. Oh let me guess, they have selective cheating right? No wait... They only cheat against the teams they can beat, because that makes it ok...right? Just stop man. Your team got caught cheating. Everyone is dawging them, not just RP. The media knows whats up. Every team in the NFL knows whats up. And Patriot fans seem to be the only ones that dont get it.



Sammy G. I'd be very pissed. Two reasons, one, we have no reason to cheat. None at all. We have to much talent and we're the champs. We dont need to cheat. Two, Tony Dungy wouldnt stand for cheating. Anyone that knows Tony Dungy knows he would never cheat. So if we did get caught cheating, i'd seriously feel betrayed. Cause i believe in Tony Dungy's cause. He's a great man that wouldnt do something like that. I'd be majorly pissed.
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I find it hard to believe that, thats the guy, but if it is...seriously
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Also i find it funny that you admit they cheat and that Mangini new about it. Then you make another post implying that they dont cheat by asking me that question.
umm, no until this season it was never illegal to video tape the opposing team, that's a new rule, so hence if no rule is broken how is it cheating?

and which question are you refering to? The "If it's such a huge advantage why didn't it help in the 2nd qtr?" if that's the one and you say

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Beacause they're shitty cheaters.
Then how do you explain the claim that all their rings are BS because they cheated? (although you've yet to tell us how they cheated in 01, 03, 04)

As for the Polian stuff it was in print, I gave you the links way back when, you just choose to ignore it "it can't be true since the press in Boston wrote about it" yeah, cause the Press in Boston only write puff pieces about their own teams...

You read the Jets stuff yourself, was he fined? no, why? not everyone gets fined for everything and the Jets chose not to press it...

really RP, you're a joke... you're jealous that's fine, talk trash all you want, make up things that aren't true, whatever makes you happy, as usually you're useless in the forum, heck Krispy is more unbiased then you.

now go ahead, make another silly post spazzing out, you can have the last word, you've clearly made a fool out of yourself as usual.
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I hate the Patriots more than I hate any team ever. I want to fucking smash Belichick over the head with a bat everytime I see his stupid face
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VEL i'm ignoring you. I cant stomach more posts about how your always right and how i'm always " throwing hissy fits " but go ahead a post those links cause if i remember correctly, it was a link from some podunk blog or boston internet site. Hey while you're on my ignore. Explain the following to people..

Explain why you can only provide one link about that Polian story and its from some dip shit whos says he overheard Polian.

Explain why all these national Boston media writers and tv personalities like Bill Simmons, the guy from sports reporters..maybe PETER KING, never reported that story

Explain to everyone here why we're suppose to believe that the Jets " chose not to press it " when Goodall was fining and suspending everyone in 2006 reguardless of whether the teams acted or not. Explain that one buddy.

Explain why i'm jealous that your team cheated...
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Heres another VEL impression.


RP : The Patriots Superbowls were a joke cause of the tuck rule and the non pass interference calls

VEL : OMG YOUR JUST THROWIN HISSY FITS! HOW CAN YOU SAY THE PATRIOTS SUPERBOWLS SHOULD BE CANCLED OUT CAUSE OF SOMETHING THAT HAPPEND IN 2007!!!

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RP: VEL the Pats were caught red handed cheating. Thats lame.

VEL : BUT IT WASNT A RULE LAST YEAR!!!!

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oh yeah RP, last question for you....

If the Patriots have been stealing signals and at half time figuring out the tape to help the 2nd half... then please explain why they lost to the Colts in the AFC championship?

I mean, if they knew all the defenses then you think they could have put a few points on the board?

I'll give you a better answer to this question. They lost to the Colts because Bob Sanders was the man and Jeff Saturday picked Wilfork up and tossed him over the goal post so Addai could run a TD. Oh yah, and Manning> Brady.
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Take all the bullshit Patriots/Colts discussion to its own thread, it really ruins this one.
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I hate the Patriots more than I hate any team ever. I want to fucking smash Belichick over the head with a bat everytime I see his stupid face
Why?

Not saying you can't feel this way just wondering why and when did these feelings start? did you feel the same way under Carrol or Parcells?

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Take all the bullshit Patriots/Colts discussion to its own thread, it really ruins this one.

It was actually a discussion about a current nfl event, RP just went postal about it, but now he claims to have me on ignore so back to our regularly schedules Palaxico discussion.

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I dont know what you just said, but i'll give you this.


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Gonzo i feel for you bro cause this is only week 2. It only gets worse until Week 9 believe me.
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The sickest tackle on that is the 4th Patriots tackle. If you watch, he jumps to the spot he thinks Mahoney id going and he was dead on. He is literally in the air before Mahoney even got there. So sick. This kid iS SICKKKKKK
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oh yeah RP, last question for you....

If the Patriots have been stealing signals and at half time figuring out the tape to help the 2nd half... then please explain why they lost to the Colts in the AFC championship?

I mean, if they knew all the defenses then you think they could have put a few points on the board?
Polian had all cameras removed from the field, according to PFT
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we really should have a youtube thread for krispy and RP.

Early report on local TV, 500K fine to Belicheck (not allowed to be paid by the team) and a 1st and 3rd round pick.

they broke the rule, they pay the price, no argument here.
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If the Patriots lose to the Chargers on Sunday I can't wait for everyone to say it was because they didn't tape some signals, instead of the fact that a good team lost to another good team
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Bullshit.


Belichick Fined; Pats Lose Pick

Bill Belichick was hit with a $500,000 fine Thursday night -- the maximum allowable by NFL by-laws -- for violating the league's policy on videotaping the Jets defensive signs Sunday. In addition, Roger Goodell notified the Patriots that they would forfeit a 2008 first-round draft choice if they reach the playoffs, or second- and third-round picks if they do not qualify for the playoffs. The club was also fined $250,000.


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Bullshit.


Belichick Fined; Pats Lose Pick

Bill Belichick was hit with a $500,000 fine Thursday night -- the maximum allowable by NFL by-laws -- for violating the league's policy on videotaping the Jets defensive signs Sunday. In addition, Roger Goodell notified the Patriots that they would forfeit a 2008 first-round draft choice if they reach the playoffs, or second- and third-round picks if they do not qualify for the playoffs. The club was also fined $250,000.


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Godells a pussy... just make it a 1st round pick "well, if they make the playoffs"

of course they'll make the playoffs.
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