12-23-2016, 06:14 PM | #9721 |
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I won't say they're better because I don't want to know what kind of weird stats you found to prove it, but I'd rather have Kipnis than Schoop and EE/Santana than Davis.
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12-23-2016, 06:43 PM | #9722 |
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12-23-2016, 06:43 PM | #9723 |
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I'm shocked he didn't say Hardy was somehow better than Lindor, tbh
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12-23-2016, 06:46 PM | #9724 |
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I sure thought Ed Encarnacion would be getting 9 figures, easy.
3/$60 was unexpected. Jose Bautista will probably come at a bargain now. |
12-23-2016, 06:54 PM | #9725 | |
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Kipnis was better on both sides and was double the WAR. Droford is just a mindless homer. Santana and Davis were even but Santana was a way better hitter. Machado is the only player that's better than any infielder on Cleveland. Cue that Droford meme. |
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12-23-2016, 07:00 PM | #9726 |
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I mean, I actually looked up some numbers and saw Kipnis was better than Schoop (had to do a double take on his OBP) in basically every way.
I just didn't want 2 more pages of his ridiculous stats and everyone else arguing against him. |
12-23-2016, 09:30 PM | #9727 | |
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12-23-2016, 10:11 PM | #9728 |
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Why do be...
Nope, not gonna do it. You can't be swayed. |
12-24-2016, 11:28 AM | #9729 |
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I agree with Droford, if I were a GM, I'd prefer Schoop over Kipnis simply due to age, but if I "wanted to win now" you'd have to go Kipnis because of his track record....
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12-24-2016, 11:29 AM | #9730 | |
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Kipnis-275/343/469, +4 drs, 4.1 WAR Schoop-267/298/454, -1 drs, 2.1 WAR Kipnis was literally twice as good lol. Kipnis was a better hitter, fielder, and base runner. Or, in other words, Kipnis is better at baseball. Even in his first full season 5 years ago, Kipnis was twice as good. I'm curious what part of your ass you're trying to argue out of here. |
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12-24-2016, 11:30 AM | #9731 |
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Oh, and the 162 games played argument is silly. If he still wasn't better why does it matter? It's quality, not quantity.
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12-24-2016, 12:18 PM | #9732 | |
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But the claim was that, right now, Schoop is better than Kipnis. I only said I'd rather have him because I didn't want to get into a useless stats argument with Droford over who is better. |
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12-24-2016, 12:21 PM | #9733 |
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I'd still take Kipnis. Age has value but it's not the end all be all. Like Screech said, Kipnis is the better overall player.
He's also likely to age better because his secondary skills are better. |
12-24-2016, 12:42 PM | #9734 | |
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12-24-2016, 12:45 PM | #9735 |
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Plus there's this
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12-24-2016, 01:09 PM | #9736 |
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looks like gay sex to me.
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12-24-2016, 01:13 PM | #9737 |
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Possibly. I dont think those numbers are Kipnis's ceiling at all. I think he will get better. Especially considering he'll be hitting in a lineup with Encarnacion and they should be getting Brantley back next season who if you've forgot, is pretty damn good. Probably there best player going into last season. Kipnis numbers will naturally get better hitting in a lineup with those 2.
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12-24-2016, 02:20 PM | #9738 |
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Schoop has a long way to go before he's touching Kipnis's ability. He's too much of a free swinger. Good power on him, athletic guy but he has a lot of maturing to do before he's anywhere close to Kipnis. For you not to see this Dro, is more signs of the O's dick in your mouth.
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12-24-2016, 02:20 PM | #9739 |
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Not to say he can't get there eventually, but that won't be this coming year, barring injury trouble for Kipnis.
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12-24-2016, 02:27 PM | #9740 |
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Jason Kipnis is 29
It's not like he's on the verge of decline here Droford... |
12-24-2016, 02:41 PM | #9741 |
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Droford is such a homer.
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12-24-2016, 02:53 PM | #9742 |
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Wonder how often Droford has masturbated to pics of Orioles players in his lifetime.
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12-24-2016, 03:06 PM | #9743 | |
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You're basically just talking out of your ass based on nothing. |
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12-24-2016, 03:10 PM | #9744 |
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And what's this first full seasons nonsense. Schoop played in 137 games in 2014. That was his first full season. And he was a terrible hitter.
He's not going to reach Kipnis' level unless he magically learns to walk and plays better defense. Given his size already I doubt the defense gets better as he ages. |
12-24-2016, 03:24 PM | #9745 |
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Yeah, I find free swingers tend to stay free swingers. He could eventually be a 30 home run guy though. But his OBP is worrisome.
And if you look at their overall production defensively and offensively, Schoop isn't even on the same stratosphere as Kipnis. |
12-24-2016, 03:57 PM | #9746 |
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12-24-2016, 03:58 PM | #9747 |
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Apparently the Dodgers' Twitter account was hacked.
http://deadspin.com/dodgers-twitter-...ium=socialflow |
12-24-2016, 08:00 PM | #9748 |
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12-24-2016, 08:01 PM | #9749 |
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12-24-2016, 08:19 PM | #9750 |
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Shakespeare cant masturbate without mispronouncing his ejaculate
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12-24-2016, 08:26 PM | #9751 |
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12-24-2016, 08:49 PM | #9752 |
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Pot calling the kettle black there
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12-24-2016, 10:24 PM | #9753 |
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He's wrong because I'm proof he's wrong so I know he's wrong.
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12-25-2016, 11:28 PM | #9754 |
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I saw the Orioles were interested in Mike Napoli. I could see him being good replacement for Trumbo when he DHed. Still doesn't solve the RF problem though.
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12-25-2016, 11:33 PM | #9755 |
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I still would like to see Trumbo come back though.
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12-26-2016, 03:54 PM | #9756 |
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Yankees pushing for the idea of one of their Red Sox-Yankees series to be played in London by around 2018. Red Sox are not as committed to the idea or location but wouldn't have a problem if MLB wanted it in the end.
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...e-other-london |
12-26-2016, 07:12 PM | #9757 |
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NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!
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12-26-2016, 11:28 PM | #9758 |
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Road to the London Kings and baseball's destruction. #ds9
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12-26-2016, 11:43 PM | #9759 |
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No way there's ever a team in London. Between the fact that road trips for games there would be brutal..just the general fact that games there would start at 2pm or even 11 am (or earlier for day games in London) and then the London teams road games would start there at midnight or later..
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01-03-2017, 08:34 PM | #9760 |
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Jesus Montero is an Oriole after he serves his 50 game suspension. Another Dan Duquette garbage bin move
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