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Old 05-22-2018, 11:36 AM   #41
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Wonder of the McMahon/Trump connection aided this deal. Helps to know/work for people in high places.
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Old 05-22-2018, 11:40 AM   #42
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Did you prefer SmackDown on Thursdays?
The ratings were better on THUR. I dont have a preference.
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Great idea for WWE though
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Old 05-22-2018, 11:44 AM   #43
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I honestly believe it's the Trump connection. In which case, good for them. Eons better deal than their current.
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Old 05-22-2018, 11:46 AM   #44
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Fox has made awful deals for live sports in the past with the UFC and NFL so its basically a pattern at this point.
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Awful in what way?
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Old 05-22-2018, 12:33 PM   #46
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Old 05-22-2018, 12:39 PM   #47
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for example the UFC deal cost them a lot of money; they are now looking into splitting the fees with ESPN to make it affordable.
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and the 3.3 Billion they spent on Thursday night football likely will be a loss too unless the game on Thursday (continue) to approve
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and the 3.3 Billion they spent on Thursday night football likely will be a loss too unless the game on Thursday (continue) to approve
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and the 3.3 Billion they spent on Thursday night football likely will be a loss too unless the game on Thursday (continue) to approve
I wonder if they are working with amazon to cut the cost, since amazon twitch is showing thur night football
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Are networks able to cancel shows they have contracted for a certain time? Are there break clauses or are they essentially now showing Smackdown until the contract runs out whether it performs well or not?
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Depends on the contract. Typically there will be stips on boths sides. Fox can back out if the show fails to do x but if they back out with out the show meeting those standards then the wwe would be entitled to y
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Old 05-22-2018, 05:03 PM   #53
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Are networks able to cancel shows they have contracted for a certain time? Are there break clauses or are they essentially now showing Smackdown until the contract runs out whether it performs well or not?
Yes. Networks do have "opt out" clauses considering Impact Wrestling got affected by it when they were on Destination America. POP TV supposedly had a similar one in length but didn't activate it. USA Network almost triggered their's with RAW in the 90s.

Like Destor mentioned, it all depends on the contract but very likely FOX has one in the new Smackdown deal. With the amount of money they are throwing around and WWE not being an actual sport, FOX would be foolish to not have one.
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:20 PM   #54
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I wonder if this will positively impact the writing/direciton.
It's interesting. Being on network means that there is going to, obviously, be that larger audience for them, which should make it more of a priority. SmackDown being on a network television helped them appeal to Hispanic viewers when they had Eddie Guerrero and Rey Mysterio.

How much have certain stars been crucial in the negotiations? The rumors were that Ronda Rousey was being touted as a huge star for them, but if she is going to play a role on SmackDown, then she's obviously got to be on that show.

It being on a Friday makes me think that they're going for kids, older crowds -- which is never good from the WWE, haha. What's this going to do the WWE schedule? Are they just going to do shows on Friday and Tuesday because a house show date, or are they going to try and do Monday, Tuesday and Friday with a third brand being added or something? I guess they're under no obligation to leave 205 Live on Tuesdays, and there's no guarantee it will even be going come 2019.

This could mean the end to the brand split, or it could mean renewed focus on them as "unique" television presentations. It's got my interest piqued. Something about a FOX/WWE deal seems...right. Maybe it's because I associate FOX with low-brow entertainment, haha. But this is great for their visibility -- if people want to watch.

I don't think it's all sunshine and roses for them, however, because it also creates added pressure on them to deliver. At the end of those five years, it will be interesting to see where both are. It's possible that they will also develop more content for Fox Sports 1, Fox Sports 2, etc. It wouldn't surprise me to see Main Event, 205 Live and NXT end up shuffled somewhere in there, or FOX to get an occasional special in order to pad out their line-up, drive up interest, etc.
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:22 PM   #55
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Wonder of the McMahon/Trump connection aided this deal. Helps to know/work for people in high places.
I don't think it hurts them. Feels like they are philosophically in-line with Fox's positions, which removes one obstacle. The general wrestling fan is probably someone that Fox can easily market too, as well. Well, the old stereotypical one. I think a lot of those fans have gone elsewhere by this point.
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:29 PM   #56
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This is great. I think Tuesday was an okay day for Smackdown live but ultimately it was too much WWE too often. Putting the show on Friday is solid idea, I hope two things, that it stays live and it stays 2 hours.
I don't know that Friday is that good a deal people tend to go out on Fridays
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I made this joke in the Raw/USA deal thread, but if they could get NBC on-board with it (and that would be the hardest part), I don't think it is actually as nutter-butter insane as that first looks.

Okay, it seems pretty insane, but the fact that they are a cable channel and a network makes the idea more workable. You are going to have people that don't have USA watching SmackDown, but Raw comes with the larger WWE audience. In a weird sort of way, I can see it boosting the overall viewership, because I don't think the split would be that much.

So instead of 3 million people watching Raw on Monday and then 2 million watching SmackDown on Tuesday, I think you could have 2.5 million people watching Raw and 2 million watching SmackDown. That's 4.5 million for WWE, which hopefully drives up interest in both shows over time. It'd be an "investment" for NBC, and would need to be pitched as such. But it's something you could always change if it just cuts into Raw's audience and SmackDown doesn't get a boost from being on a network and the idea of competition isn't driving up the ratings.

Ideally, since Vince and Kevin Dunn can't be in two places at once, this would allow for two completely different styles of production and, hopefully, creative (Vince would no doubt still be involved, but he can't be as "hands on").

Weirdly enough, I think it would be worth a shot. In a "real world angle" sort of way, it might be a way to get people talking if you can get it past investors and NBC as anything other than "Why the fuck would you shoot yourself in the foot?"
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I don't know that Friday is that good a deal people tend to go out on Fridays
Not so much children and old white men.
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Originally, it seemed the roster split was designed to create internal competition, and stories over the years have actually kind of supported that. But when you have them on separate nights and want them both to do well without risking any scraped needs, it's never going to really approach that same level of competition. They don't even really feel as distinctly separate as Coke and Sprite do.
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Plot Twist: NBCUniversal's parent company, Comcast, is countering Disney's offer to buy FOX, rumored at 60 billion to Disney's 52 billion.
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Old 05-23-2018, 03:05 PM   #68
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Well technically Comcast nor Disney is buying the FOX Network or FOX News just everything else (Disney can't buy Fox Sports b/c ESPN...but NBCUniversal can).
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Thats week old news...how is NBC just now reporting it?
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Old 05-23-2018, 03:06 PM   #70
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Shit first reported on the 8th

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Turns out UFC's deal with ESPN might be even more crazy than the bumps WWE got with the NBC and FOX deals. Also seemed ESPN learned nothing from their recent financial struggles when it came to handing out bloated contracts.

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If we go with the idea each live show is six hours, then ESPN+ is getting 150 hours of the 204 hours of live programming.

It’s probably not fair to see ESPN+ is where 73.5 percent of the $300 million is spent, because the 54 hours of ESPN content will be bigger names, but if we say that 60 percent of the value, or $180 million, is related to ESPN+, and if the average viewer is paying $55 per year, that means to break even on the streaming pay, the UFC fan base alone has to increase the number of subscriptions by 3.27 million new subscribers each year in the United States alone. That is a completely insane and unfathomable number. And keep in mind of that $55 per year, much of that will be going to the cost of the site, so in reality the number they will need is far greater. For example, WWE on its $9.99 per month deal was only making a little over $2 per month in actual profit once you tack on things like production costs of all the shows and all the other costs of the network. Since UFC is paying for production, that’s a different factor, but you’re also talking about a network at $4.99 per month or $49.99 per year.
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Murdoch added that FOX would fully embrace WWE, with SmackDown promos airing every single night of the week, along with a weekly studio show on FS1."
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that sounds like main event is going to fs1
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It's says studio show so I'd assume it'd be something like SportsNation only dedicated to WWE.
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Yeah Talking Smack has got to get that deal.
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