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Old 02-09-2017, 05:09 PM   #81
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You understand why The Rock was never arrested for threatening to sodomize someone with a shoe, right?

That quote you love to use was a joke, but not shockingly, you failed to grasp that.
Except it was your response to being called out on blatantly contradicting yourself. It's not like you "made a joke" and then actually explained yourself. That was your only response. And it's an accurate response. Because sometimes you get so deep into spouting retarded bullshit that you can't even bullshit your way out of being called out on it. So when that happens, it's time to just admit...

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I'm not above lying to make it look like I know what I'm talking about.
You were probably better off just not responding when you got called out and just hoping no one noticed. Especially if you're an internet troll, letting that be your response was a huge fucking fail. lol
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Old 02-09-2017, 05:09 PM   #82
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You must be a lawyer, because you're making something simple very complicated. USA doesn't care what production costs WWE has unless WWE is trying to negotiate that USA pay for part or all of production. Then sure, you need to do a deep dive into costs. But you keep moving the goal posts. First it was lol at WWE for showing cable ratings, then it was they need to submit their "ratings audit", which isn't a real thing, now you're clutching on to production costs.

Put everything else aside, just explain why it's lol for WWE to show a slide comparing their cable properties to other cable properties. That's all I need to hear about.
I already have. The same reason why it's "lol at WWE for showing cable ratings". It's not an accurate reflection on the valuation of their TV rights nor overall financial health.

Plus a ratings audit is very much a real thing. Just not in the way you're thinking or misrepresenting it.

Any negotiations dealing with WWE's TV rights will require performance and presentation of at least 2 audits, (one provided by WWE and one by the negotiating network or an independent auditor) of which the audits will include among many other things, WWE's TV ratings data compared to ALL other networks/shows. The Nielsen ratings data provided by WWE in their audit will be compared to the Nielsen ratings data gathered by the network or independent auditor to see if there's any falsifications or mistakes in WWE's presentation of the Nielsen data. This ratings data will then be reconciled or accepted and used to determine a valuation of WWE's TV rights.
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Old 02-09-2017, 05:11 PM   #83
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Easily the most ignorant post of all time
If you knew my background, and knew my intelligence, and my experience you would understand why I'm perfectly justified saying that.
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Old 02-09-2017, 05:17 PM   #84
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But what was their net gain? Batman v Superman was a high revenue movie, but nearly flopped due to actual profit.

Is WWE making their best profit? Isn't profit, not revenue, most important?
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Old 02-09-2017, 05:20 PM   #85
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Feel like CyNick is the Donald Trump of the boards. He's got intelligence, the best intelligence, he has experience, wonderful experience, but he doesn't really show any tangible data or facts.

He says things factually, but nothing is presented to back it up.
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Old 02-09-2017, 05:21 PM   #86
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I already have. The same reason why it's "lol at WWE for showing cable ratings". It's not an accurate reflection on the valuation of their TV rights nor overall financial health.

Plus a ratings audit is very much a real thing. Just not in the way you're thinking or misrepresenting it.

Any negotiations dealing with WWE's TV rights will require performance and presentation of at least 2 audits, (one provided by WWE and one by the negotiating network or an independent auditor) of which the audits will include among many other things, WWE's TV ratings data compared to ALL other networks/shows. The Nielsen ratings data provided by WWE in their audit will be compared to the Nielsen ratings data gathered by the network or independent auditor to see if there's any falsifications or mistakes in WWE's presentation of the Nielsen data. This ratings data will then be reconciled or accepted and used to determine a valuation of WWE's TV rights.
I didn't bring it up, you did. Its coming from a third party, they can just go to the third party to get the data, and the data is available to the public on tons of websites. All I'm saying is the numbers WWE posted are perfectly legitimate. There's no dispute that WWE used accurate numbers in the presentation. You seemed lost in your first post claiming they were using over a year old data, but it's a year over year chart, including Q4 2016 data.

The only way the WWE having ratings that are nearly double the network's average wouldn't be a positive to their ability to get a good rights deal would be if the network couldn't sell and space during the show. As I mentioned, this is why WWE was far worse off in the Attitude Era, even though the ratings were double or more what they are today. As has been documented from recent up fronts, WWE programming has generated a long list of new A list sponsors, which makes them even more valuable.

If you want to dispute that, you've got an uphill battle. But I appreciate your gumption.
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Old 02-09-2017, 05:22 PM   #87
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Feel like CyNick is the Donald Trump of the boards. He's got intelligence, the best intelligence, he has experience, wonderful experience, but he doesn't really show any tangible data or facts.

He says things factually, but nothing is presented to back it up.
He's got numbers. And they're the best numbers. Better than your numbers. You won't believe these numbers. They're huge. HUGE! He woke up this morning like... "If they knew what I knew about these numbers..."
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Old 02-09-2017, 05:23 PM   #88
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Old 02-09-2017, 05:24 PM   #90
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But what was their net gain? Batman v Superman was a high revenue movie, but nearly flopped due to actual profit.

Is WWE making their best profit? Isn't profit, not revenue, most important?
Long term, yes. In a period when you are trying to transform the business, it's understandable to take a profit hit.

The problem is you will never know what the profitability of the company would have been without The Network. I believe it would have been much lower than it is today, but that's making an assumption that WWEs PPV business was in decline. But admittedly is a debatable point.
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Old 02-09-2017, 05:27 PM   #91
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Feel like CyNick is the Donald Trump of the boards. He's got intelligence, the best intelligence, he has experience, wonderful experience, but he doesn't really show any tangible data or facts.

He says things factually, but nothing is presented to back it up.
President Trump's proof is in the skylines of many of the greatest cities in the world. I guess mine is on this forum, just read my posts. They are all insightful and on point.
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Old 02-09-2017, 05:29 PM   #92
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lol CyNick's day has been made by being compared with the Donald.
It's actually not shocking to me that the type of people on this board think being compared to President Trump is an insult. It actually validates my opinion of most people on here.
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Old 02-09-2017, 05:34 PM   #93
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Except it was your response to being called out on blatantly contradicting yourself. It's not like you "made a joke" and then actually explained yourself. That was your only response. And it's an accurate response. Because sometimes you get so deep into spouting retarded bullshit that you can't even bullshit your way out of being called out on it. So when that happens, it's time to just admit...



You were probably better off just not responding when you got called out and just hoping no one noticed. Especially if you're an internet troll, letting that be your response was a huge fucking fail. lol
Like I said, I'm not shocked you missed the layer of that post. I get it. You make it crystal clear every time you post that quote.
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He's got facts, but they're secret facts. You cant know them, but believe him, theyre good facts.
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He's got facts, but they're secret facts. You cant know them, but believe him, theyre good facts.
Hey, maybe I'm a wrestling "journalists", they do the same thing.

#1fan will get that reference... No wait, he won't. Too bad.
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Like I said, I'm not shocked you missed the layer of that post. I get it. You make it crystal clear every time you post that quote.
Keep replying without actually acknowledging that the quote was your way of avoiding having to come up with an excuse after getting called out on contradicting yourself AGAIN. Maybe it will eventually go away and you can look smarter. Wait, no it won't. Because I'm gonna keep quoting it and reminding you of it. Consider yourself DUMMIED!
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Hey, maybe I'm a wrestling "journalists", they do the same thing.

#1fan will get that reference... No wait, he won't. Too bad.
Was that supposed to be a joke or an insult?

Either way... swing and a miss, Cynick. Swing and a miss.
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Keep replying without actually acknowledging that the quote was your way of avoiding having to come up with an excuse after getting called out on contradicting yourself AGAIN. Maybe it will eventually go away and you can look smarter. Wait, no it won't. Because I'm gonna keep quoting it and reminding you of it. Consider yourself DUMMIED!
You really don't get the context of that post, do you? It's really sad. Do you think I slipped up and accidentally buried myself? I challenge you to go back and re-read that whole thread, or at least a couple pages. You will realize how badly you are coming off right now.
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I actually missed the part where CyNick was a Trump supporter until it was brought up by Dale in this thread. lol Amazing.
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Long term, yes. In a period when you are trying to transform the business, it's understandable to take a profit hit.

The problem is you will never know what the profitability of the company would have been without The Network. I believe it would have been much lower than it is today, but that's making an assumption that WWEs PPV business was in decline. But admittedly is a debatable point.
Transform what business? The sports entertainment business? They're the only game in that town. What is it that they're trying to transform?

And it still didn't answer my question. Are they a profitable company or are they losing money?
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Old 02-09-2017, 06:00 PM   #104
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Was that supposed to be a joke or an insult?

Either way... swing and a miss, Cynick. Swing and a miss.
You say that, but here we are, in yet another thread, where everything revolves around me. Sounds like another grand slam for the bad guy.

Maybe if you had my insight and intelligence you would be able to hold court like I can.
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Old 02-09-2017, 06:01 PM   #105
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Transform what business? The sports entertainment business? They're the only game in that town. What is it that they're trying to transform?

And it still didn't answer my question. Are they a profitable company or are they losing money?
Very profitable.

They transformed from being PPV dependent to moving into the VOD space. That was a major transformation which retired a lot of investment. It started paying off in 2015, and grew even more in 2016.
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You say that, but here we are, in yet another thread, where everything revolves around me. Sounds like another grand slam for the bad guy.

Maybe if you had my insight and intelligence you would be able to hold court like I can.
That's just sad. I'm all for intense or controversial discussions or debates, but I don't give a fuck if they revolve around me. Maybe you should seeks some help or re-examine your priorities.
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Very profitable.

They transformed from being PPV dependent to moving into the VOD space. That was a major transformation which retired a lot of investment. It started paying off in 2015, and grew even more in 2016.
Proof?
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That's just sad. I'm all for intense or controversial discussions or debates, but I don't give a fuck if they revolve around me. Maybe you should seeks some help or re-examine your priorities.
Of course you don't, because they never do.
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Sometimes it's a simple, generic insult to try to save face and avoid acknowledging another blatant strawman...

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You have the worst comprehension ever. He said nothing about Leaner wrestling every week.
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What a geek.
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They are, but I'm not above lying to make it look like I know what I'm talking about. I'm trying to be like the wrestling journalists.
Either way... it's always wonderfully Trumptarded.
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Totally. I flew over on a plane though. Better build an extra big wall.
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That's just sad. I'm all for intense or controversial discussions or debates, but I don't give a fuck if they revolve around me. Maybe you should seeks some help or re-examine your priorities.
He's the best at getting attention on internet message boards though. The best. He's got huge amounts of people who talk to him on internet message boards. HUGE. Other geeks wish they had as many. But they don't. They're losers. Now he's gotta go to another forum and talk about how many people talk to him on this forum. He's so busy getting so much attention on so many forums you wouldn't believe it. In fact, he was just talking to a very important person the other day and he was like "Wow. It's unbelievable how much attention you get on those forums. Just unbelievable." #BuildtheWall
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Lol. Give CyNick a chance to prove his point and he tells you to look it up. Wonderful.
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His point is right there to see. You can't not see it. It's huge. HUGE. Other people have points but they're so insignificant compared to his point. He talked to Google the other day and Google was like "CyNick. That's such a huge point you have. How do you do it, even?" #SomethingAboutChina
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Sometimes it's a simple, generic insult to try to save face and avoid acknowledging another blatant strawman...






Sometimes it's responding with the truth in "joke" form to try to avoid acknowledging getting called out on your bullshit...









Either way... it's always wonderfully Trumptarded.
Again, you completely missed the context of the statement. Link the thread and let everyone see how badly you missed the point.
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Lol. Give CyNick a chance to prove his point and he tells you to look it up. Wonderful.
Why would I post something you can just look up?

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Why would I post something you can just look up?
lol Amazing. Especially since my quotes actually contain links to the threads. Trumptarded on 2 different levels.
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