10-25-2014, 04:16 AM | #161 |
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This should destroy her reputation, but she's escaped scrutiny before. I would like to see how her and Jon's move into more mainstream 'critique' will fare for them. |
10-25-2014, 04:51 AM | #162 |
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Any SJWs answer to this? |
10-25-2014, 04:54 AM | #163 |
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Ironically, she forgets that the shooter also killed his MALE friends as well.. Guess she didn't give a shit about that one.
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10-25-2014, 04:58 AM | #164 |
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I'm sure she's aware.
Overall I'm happy she went this far. Until this she played it safe. |
10-25-2014, 05:40 AM | #165 |
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Please triangulate some statistics that disprove what she said. Please activate your deep blue brain and explain what the stated motivation for his shooting spree were. Please tell us what you'd do to her if you got the chance.
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10-25-2014, 05:43 AM | #166 |
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What is it about gamergaters running breathlessly into a room, slapping down a printout from twitter on your desk and going "HA!!!!!......." and then staring silently at you for 5 minutes before staring out the window and going "Ho ho ho it's all over now"
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10-25-2014, 05:46 AM | #167 |
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http://www.realsexism.com/ These statistics help out? Look it up and tell me it's bullshit.
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10-25-2014, 07:12 AM | #169 |
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10-25-2014, 07:22 AM | #170 |
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Sexist would probably only target chicks.
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10-25-2014, 09:04 AM | #171 |
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10-25-2014, 09:09 AM | #173 |
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She didn't say sexist, she stated that most perpetrators of mass acts of shooting are male and suggests it is as a result of "toxic male culture". So why would it invalidate that argument if they murder other men while they're at it. The fact is she's entirely correct that it is males who commit these mass acts of violence and indeed most acts of violence, whether she's right specifically about a "toxic male culture" is debatable, obviously, but that's why you express ideas. I don't see why she's wrong for airing that opinion, it's a valid one from her perspective. There's a lot of male anger around aimed at women and society, particularly on the internet.
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10-25-2014, 09:29 AM | #174 |
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Google Women Mass Murderers. There's lots of it. Fucker.
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10-25-2014, 09:32 AM | #175 |
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10-25-2014, 09:39 AM | #176 |
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My point is this: Regardless whether male or female of who's more violent even in statistics, BOTH sides are at fault here. Not just the guys..
I also blame the mothers of the killers who didn't get enough attention as a child either. Not because they were born male... What about when a gamer guy gets bullied for coming out gay in the community and commits suicide? I guess feminists like Anita doesn't give 2 shits about it either. |
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10-25-2014, 09:44 AM | #178 |
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I guess you're homophobic as well if a gay guy commits suicide because he gets bullied within any community even GamerGate.
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10-25-2014, 10:34 AM | #179 |
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You are dumb.
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10-25-2014, 10:46 AM | #180 |
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But this stupid person doesn't subscribe to "allegations of threats" that simply never happened at Gamergate considering it was a BAD PR publicity stunt.
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10-25-2014, 10:58 AM | #181 |
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i'm still having a hard time believing this is a real thing.
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10-25-2014, 02:51 PM | #182 |
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*This is for Reaper and Kalyx*
What I'm gathering from this last page or so is: 1 female mass shooter is the same as whatever number it is (that is GREATER THAN 1) number of male shooters? |
10-25-2014, 04:59 PM | #183 |
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while i feel kalyx might be a 'good guy' on whatever side of the argument he is on, raven reaper defintely seems like the stereotypical over-reactor who just looks like a woman hater.
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10-25-2014, 05:19 PM | #184 |
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10-25-2014, 06:07 PM | #185 |
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Reason why is because I don't like Anita who represents everything wrong in the gaming community like labelling everything in games as sexist fantasies for men.. She's no different than a 90s Senator who also thinks DOOM game promotes gun violence.
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10-25-2014, 07:05 PM | #186 |
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Reaper can be excitable but he's 100% about Anita/Thompson/Senator thing.
Hell, years ago I had a thread in this forum putting Thompson blast for the same shit Anita's pulling now and the reaction to her quotes and arguments are night and day. Or, ironically, sexist. |
10-25-2014, 07:42 PM | #187 |
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And for the record, I don't hate women, I just hate the bullshit coming from both gender sides' mouths...
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10-25-2014, 07:58 PM | #188 |
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10-25-2014, 08:00 PM | #189 |
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Obviously we have no problem with women and female characters in games. I think that narrative will naturally die out when people see it has no legs to stand on. In fact a great many talking points were killed off over the last few months, which is why they're doubling down on the harassment/doxxing. "Well they have women on their side and they're diverse - but trolls transcend race and gender! They're all trolls!"
What makes that tricky is the news media focuses on one side being fucked with, sustaining GG being the only people doing the harm in the public eye. Unlike the other talking points simply not being that kind of person isn't enough to convince people. Just a single dox on an outspoken anti-GG puts all of GG on the radar. We either did it or support it. And barring that; 'well you're in a group that does it/supports it'. All it has to do is happen and we're screwed, whereas the other stereotypes were beaten by taking action and getting reps out there. Some game journalists and other people against GG have tweeted approval or support of people getting doxxed. Right there in the open. And people still believe GG are aggressors on that front. Because so long as somebody speaking out against GG gets doxxed, pointing the finger seems to be stronger than any form of evidence. We're still a hate group, because we can't prove a negative. This is why I really jumped on the idea of dealing with the trolls before we can even continue the conversation of what games journalism should be. |
10-25-2014, 11:29 PM | #190 |
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The reporter got owned on this shit.. He must be a feminist himself.. |
10-25-2014, 11:41 PM | #191 |
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I believe he did fine. There were no anti-GG there so he had to beg many questions.
Tone down the rage, dude. I'm with you but being this tempered won't get you far. I've been able to talk with as many feminists and SJWs as I had by not being so aggressive. |
10-26-2014, 12:08 AM | #192 |
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Jemma was the loudest most outspoken girl of the 3 ever saying perfectly clear, "THIS IS NOT WOMEN UNDER ATTACK, THIS IS CORRUPTION IN JOURNALISM EHTICS." Nothing more.
Jemma is like my raging spirit animal, you know. lol. |
10-26-2014, 12:26 AM | #193 |
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It was annoying how many times he went back to the misogyny angle. It was very good to have three women there (and one feminist!) to help squash that.
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10-26-2014, 05:30 AM | #194 |
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Yeah but that feminist doesn't even subscribe to Anita's sexist version of it.. Thank goodness for NAFALT. lol.
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10-26-2014, 06:09 AM | #195 |
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A feminist on how she decided which side to take.
http://angelwitchpaganheart.wordpres...ker-and-tgwtg/ |
10-27-2014, 11:48 AM | #196 |
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She cares about ethics in journalism, so joins up the people who bother toy makers and write reviews about toys.
You didn't really address the previous point about why point out a relationship between violent crimes and being male is meant to destroy her. I guess the burden of proof is on you to explain why it destroys her rather than posting another hotlink. |
10-27-2014, 06:27 PM | #197 |
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Her making a post like is that is a parody of why feminism has the image issue it has, and it puts her in opposition of people much smarter than her. She's playing big girl games now and her reputation will crumble now that she chose to elevate herself beyond talking down to gamers. In the forum of ideas you can't just say damning things about any group of people without some damn good backup, and her worst trait is her dishonest research.
I'm very happy she said what she said. And your cute thing about burden of proof and hotlinks doesn't change the fact that she went overbaord. |
10-27-2014, 06:32 PM | #198 |
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Her dude, however, still takes the cake.
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10-27-2014, 06:44 PM | #199 |
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10-27-2014, 07:12 PM | #200 |
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Would I represent you correctly that you think a movement can only have a single goal and any deviation or addition is somehow a deterrence? Is this something you always believed about any movement in the past?
Yes the ultimate goal is integrity with games journalism; but I don't think it's bad to also call out toxic beliefs of where the game journalists get their beliefs, identify irrelevant tones that have arisen in the articles, stand against bullying, etc. |