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when red hulk debuted he trashed the avengers, the watcher, the hulk and others until his identity was revealed.. so he was written as a villain and was even seen as such when he first joined the avengers
Noone really knows that its flash in the symbiot... Remember Mac Gargen? He was in no way ever a hero in any sense and he wore the venom symbiot for a long time. So yes the symbiot was once a major villain.
Punisher fights with heros and villains. say what you want in terms of his motives and his moral ground, in the eyes of the public and other heros, hes a villain if not terrorist.... same goes for deadpool for the most part.
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