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Old 05-26-2017, 11:16 PM   #78
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Women aren't treated as outsiders. Certain people come in, demand changes within the subculture, thus putting themselves as outsiders. Nothing ever could stop a women from being a comic fan. Nothing. The entry fee is the price of a comic, the viewership of a movie or animated series. You can't stop anyone from being a part of the culture.

What happens is some moralizing holier than thou type comes in and uses the medium to press their preset ideals and when they get called out; "Women aren't accepted", "Minorities aren't accepted", "Casuals aren't accepted", etc. This happened in gaming, it happened in STEM, it happened in many other industries and cultures.

And when we find the punk ass kid who harasses the only girl in an Overwatch team, or the one professor who makes a slightly sexist joke about women in research, they hype it up as standards of how women are treated - even though we'd have women in these very cultures/industries saying otherwise. 10 women saying their gaming experience online is alright for some reason pales to one or two who got trolled. It's an unfair and disingenuous standard.

Taking it back to the WW movie, I agree with Vastar's three points about Diana. She had a TV series ages ago, one animated movie, a failed TV pilot, and though a main player in certain cartoons - still just a co-star to guys who already had loads of movies. I totally get all that. That's why it was awesome to see her take on Doomsday in live-action. She's getting her due and her movie looks good. It just feels good that she looks to be the one to save the DC movie-verse.

However:

None of that explains how we accept a women's only screening when it would be unacceptable on the other foot. "Hey we're gonna have a boy's only screening of My Little Pony. We just created a bunch of new male characters and it'll be great to have fathers and boys enjoy this exclusively to show MLP is inclusive in all directions."

Same argument. Just as sweet and well intentioned. It would be shut down. Hasbro would be harassed and slandered all over social media. You wouldn't have time to read all the blogs attacking Hasbro and whichever theater participated in the event.

So you can make it sound as reasonable as possible; I'm saying that it still wouldn't please people in reverse. We're not just talking people who protested against men's victim centers, zealots will zealot. Even mass media and normal people just wouldn't dig a men's only anything - and perhaps rightfully so. Even your own example, Vas, included the idea that women didn't belong in gaming. That wasn't even a personally backed example of yours and it still has shades of how things would look if this was in reverse.
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