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road doggy dogg 12-21-2015 11:55 AM

What about it didn't you like?

McLegend 12-21-2015 02:51 PM

The more I think about it the more annoyed I get that The prequels are as bad as they are.

After seeing Episode 7 I realize how much better they should have been. Episodes I,II, & III are such a waste.

With that said I'm going to watch the Phatom Menace right now. I haven't seen it all the way through in about 10 years.

El Vaquero de Infierno 12-21-2015 04:41 PM

Episode VII definitely wipes away the big shit stain that are the prequels.

I found the script was still clunky at times, though; I don't know if that was a homage to the past films as well. lol

Ruien 12-21-2015 07:39 PM

I don't understand all the hate for the prequels. Sure the 2nd was terrible but it's not like they were awful movies. 3rd movie was hot.

Ermaximus 12-21-2015 07:53 PM

Curious to see if Lando shows up as he was the only supporting character missing. I mean,
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Admiral Ackbar and Nien Nunb were there,
so why not bring back Lando?

Also, does anyone know who
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the old guy at the beginning is supposed to be? They tout him as this old ally, but never once say his name before he is brutally murdered.


Could also be irrelevant, but isn't Ashoka Tano still out there somewhere in the galaxy?

Lock Jaw 12-21-2015 08:05 PM

Ashoka Tano's fate still unknown.... Alive in Star Wars: Rebels, but who knows what happens.....

Other than that... yeah, miss Lando.... hope he shows up in the next episode(s).....

Ermaximus 12-21-2015 08:13 PM

Episode VIII: Lando Seeks Revenge on the Sith

road doggy dogg 12-21-2015 08:28 PM

I don't know. I mean... what would having Lando in the movie really add? It would be the equivalent of some over-the-hill wrestler from the 90s making their shitty Rumble appearance for a quick pop. Seems unnecessary.

road doggy dogg 12-21-2015 08:29 PM

At least Akbar was like a strategist and shit and planned their attack etc

Lock Jaw 12-21-2015 08:33 PM

Maybe Lando is Finn's dad............. because he's black.

Ruien 12-21-2015 09:16 PM

Who was the old dude in the beginning?

Lock Jaw 12-21-2015 09:22 PM

Forgot about old man at beginning. Can't even picture the scene/him. Too much else.

Fignuts 12-21-2015 09:50 PM

Did Max Von Sydow play anyone in the original trilogy? Even if it was unnamed?

Evil Vito 12-21-2015 10:01 PM

<font color=goldenrod>While I've enjoyed the Star Wars series, I've never been a massive fanboy who knows everything religiously. I've only seen 2 and 3 once and can barely remember anything about them (and judging from general consensus, they were poor).

That said...this movie fucking ruled. Loved pretty much all of it. Occasional spottiness in the script but not enough to ruin anything for me. Was so worth it seeing it in IMAX 3D as well.</font>

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-21-2015 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts HD Edition (Post 4747003)
Did Max Von Sydow play anyone in the original trilogy? Even if it was unnamed?

Lord Vigo the Carpathian.

No.

The Rogerer 12-22-2015 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4746778)
I don't understand all the hate for the prequels. Sure the 2nd was terrible but it's not like they were awful movies. 3rd movie was hot.

I watched them last week. They are outright terrible movies. Cinematically dead.

Rammsteinmad 12-22-2015 12:24 PM

I'm probably one of the only people who enjoyed all three of the prequel movies.

Sure, they're nothing compared to the original trilogy, but they're still great films. Even Episode 1.

The CGI certainly hasn't aged well, though, but a lot of the battles, and especially the lightsaber ones, are amazing to watch.

Reavant 12-22-2015 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4746558)
What about it didn't you like?

I left feeling very meh.

The story felt very small. I dont know how else to explain that statement. There wasnt an overall grandness to what was happening to me. I had all the nostalgic feels at first, but they went away as the movie progressed. There seemed to be no consequence at anything that happened, and really big shit did happen, but you didnt feel good or bad about it.

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When the republic planets got blown up, you had no connection to them. For example in the new hope, you knew that alderan was leias home, and vader explained beforehand what the station could do before he did it then blew it up in front of her.

This time, you didnt even really know it was coming, and they did it to an entire system, but you didnt really care because you never even got the name of the planets they blew up. Noone was from there and noone cared.


I liked how they did the villain. He was young and struggling with his powers. Not some killing machine like Vader. The tantrums were actually a nice touch. But he seemed like a complete sociopath.

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It was cool to see that he was Hans kid, but you saw it coming that he was going to kill Han. That whole scene was just duuuhhh. And the moment when he gave the sabre to Han like he was going to turn to the light, it felt like he was a sociopath playing with his food. He knew he was going to kill him and he did it that way to make it worse for Han. It looked like there was no inner struggle.


The main characters were done well and acted well, but I dont feel like I know them.

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yes Fin was a stormtrooper taken and brainwashed as a youth, but he broke that programming pretty fast and pretty easy, and when he said what he was, he had no emotion to it and neither did the audience. It was like "this happened" "ok cool... moving on"

Same with Rey. no parents and mysterious past. got it.

WTF happened to Po? He just shows up in an xwing. I mean he has like a 2 second explaination.


Starkiller base was real cool, but
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it was just there. They gave it almost no explaination and blew up a bunch of planets. It also went down the exact same way almost as the Death star.


The movie was almost the exact cut and paste plot as ep IV.

Reavant 12-22-2015 12:47 PM

Also a lot of things just felt overly convieniently there. l

Reavant 12-22-2015 12:47 PM

It wasnt bad at all, I just wouldnt go see it again.

KIRA 12-22-2015 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Reavant (Post 4747325)
I

The movie was almost the exact cut and paste plot as ep IV.

I had a similar feeling but mine was positive it felt familiar enough but with just enough to be different.

Fignuts 12-22-2015 02:08 PM

Saw it again.

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Super convinced that Snoke is Darth Plagueis. The music that plays during the Snoke scene is almost the same track from the scene in ep. 3 when palpatine tells Anakin about him. Kylo Ren describes him as wise and Plagueis was known as Plagueis the wise. Could be coincidence or red herrings but it makes sense. You want to introduce a villain that is a bigger threat than the emporer, why not the emporers master?

Lock Jaw 12-22-2015 07:36 PM

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Isn't Darth Plagueis dead? Unless you are saying that Palpatine didn't really kill him.

Fignuts 12-22-2015 08:16 PM

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Either he survived, and tricked palpatine into thinking he was dead (which might explain all the scars), or Plagueis and Sidious were the true master and apprentice the whole time, and Maul, Dooku, and even Vader were just pawns in their greater schemes.

VSG 12-22-2015 08:16 PM

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He probably did not. The now non-canon novels had a good section on how Plagueis was paranoid enough to have clones of him. Then there's the whole knowledge of the life force etc etc

Fignuts 12-22-2015 09:37 PM

I was a little disappointed that there were no really good standout tracks on the ost. Don't get me wrong, it was by no means bad, but if there's one thing the prequels did really great it was the soundtracks. So many good tracks, but in this movie nothing really stood out, besides maybe the song that plays during the final scene, but that's only like 2 minutes.

Lock Jaw 12-22-2015 09:38 PM

Liked this song

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/65As1V0vQDM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

But it is a "subtle" song.... not one that you would really go around "humming"....

Fignuts 12-22-2015 09:46 PM

That was another one I was going to mention but even then, they don't hit me like some of the prequel tracks do.

DAT ORDER 66 SON

Lock Jaw 12-22-2015 09:51 PM

Thinking back on it, yeah, the prequels really did have a lot of quality tracks and songs. I guess maybe JJ wanted to just play the whole thing more "down low" or whatever....

Wishbone 12-22-2015 10:22 PM

Just got back from watching the movie. Definitely a great flick. Felt like a Star Wars movie from start to finish.

That said I also really like almost all of the new characters. They all held their own, especially Po. Even BB wasn't as awful (though I still hate his design).

Had the "big twist"/ending ruined for me by an asshole family member on Facebook though. When they said it I assumed they were kidding cause it just seemed so crazy, but as soon as the pieces fell into place I was like "that fucking bitch!" Still enjoyed it all though.

JJ definitely surprised the hell out of me. I didn't expect this to be this good and it certainly was the best Star Wars related thing I've seen/played/whatever in ages.

KIRA 12-23-2015 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 4747584)
Just got back from watching the movie. Definitely a great flick. Felt like a Star Wars movie from start to finish.

That said I also really like almost all of the new characters. They all held their own, especially Po. Even BB wasn't as awful (though I still hate his design).

Had the "big twist"/ending ruined for me by an asshole family member on Facebook though. When they said it I assumed they were kidding cause it just seemed so crazy, but as soon as the pieces fell into place I was like "that fucking bitch!" Still enjoyed it all though.

JJ definitely surprised the hell out of me. I didn't expect this to be this good and it certainly was the best Star Wars related thing I've seen/played/whatever in ages.

The Clone Wars is really good if you haven't watched it you should its all on Netflix.

Wishbone 12-23-2015 12:34 AM

Yeah, I enjoyed Clone Wars. Rebels has been even better in my opinion. Love the characters and their interactions in it. Sorta reminds me of Knights of the Old Republic for some reason.

KIRA 12-23-2015 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 4747628)
Yeah, I enjoyed Clone Wars. Rebels has been even better in my opinion. Love the characters and their interactions in it. Sorta reminds me of Knights of the Old Republic for some reason.

I've heard good things about Rebels plus my girl Ahsoka is in it I've been wanting to see it but I can't seem to catch it my fingers are crossed for Netflix release.

Wishbone 12-23-2015 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 4747640)
I've heard good things about Rebels plus my girl Ahsoka is in it I've been wanting to see it but I can't seem to catch it my fingers are crossed for Netflix release.

If you don't mind the quality being a little "meh" there's a site I watch it on that I'd be happy to rep you with. The episodes are usually 480 to 720 so they're not terrible by any means, and they've got all of them plus pretty much any other cartoon you can think of from the last 10 years or so.

road doggy dogg 12-23-2015 09:45 AM

https://twitter.com/KyloR3n

nice

ct2k 12-23-2015 11:07 AM

FUCKIN A. SHIT WAS UNREAL.

Seriously it was amazing and I want to bang that Ridleytits girl errwhere.

Can't wait for the next ep + the spin off movies etc.

HOLLA (etc)

Zeeboe 12-23-2015 12:33 PM

I was pretty much bored through most of it except when the legends were on screen.

road doggy dogg 12-23-2015 01:25 PM

Shocker, that.

Tom Guycott 12-23-2015 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4747572)
Liked this song

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/65As1V0vQDM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

But it is a "subtle" song.... not one that you would really go around "humming"....

Joint gave me that "first area of an RPG after you leave the first town" vibe, even while I was in the theater. Possibly even world map material.

Frank Drebin 12-23-2015 02:25 PM

Reavant makes alot of great points, tbh.

Also, maybe I missed it, but is the Order different from the Empire? Thought they said it was but they use all the same stuff.


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