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Lock Jaw 12-10-2016 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Savio (Post 4897567)

This appears to be a link to the past.....

Kalyx triaD 12-12-2016 04:09 AM

Buzzfeed you jokers.

#BROKEN Hasney 12-13-2016 03:48 AM

The presentation has been dated

January 12, 8 pm PT (West coast NA)
January 12, 11 pm ET (East coast)
January 13, 4 am GMT
January 13, 5 am CET (Central Europe)
January 13, 11am JST (Japan)
January 13, 3 pm AEDT (Australia)

#BROKEN Hasney 12-13-2016 04:40 AM

Also, Playtonic have cancelled the Wii U version of Yooka-Laylee and will instead bring it to Switch.

Kalyx triaD 12-13-2016 01:04 PM

Makes sense.

Big Vic 12-13-2016 01:07 PM

I hope it plays like "nut n bolts"

#BROKEN Hasney 12-13-2016 06:18 PM

If you're registered with My Nintendo in the US, look out for one of these in your email.

http://gonintendo.com/system/file_up...cdHtwEZxIQ.png

#BROKEN Hasney 12-19-2016 09:17 AM

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Clock-speeds are a crucial piece of information required to get some idea of Switch's capabilities beyond the physical make-up of the Tegra processor. As many have speculated, the new Nintendo hardware does indeed feature two performance configurations - and the console is categorically not as capable in mobile form, compared to its prowess when docked and attached to an HDTV. And we can confirm that there is no second GPU or additional hardware in the dock itself regardless of the intriguing patents that Nintendo has filed suggesting that there might be. With battery life and power throughput no longer an issue, the docked Switch simply allows the GPU to run much faster. And to put it simply, there is a night and day difference here.

Where Switch remains consistent is in CPU power - the cores run at 1020MHz regardless of whether the machine is docked or undocked. This ensures that running game logic won't be compromised while gaming on the go: the game simulation itself will remain entirely consistent. The machine's embedded memory controller runs at 1600MHz while docked (on par with a standard Tegra X1), but the default power mode undocked sees this drop to 1331MHz. However, developers can opt to retain full memory bandwidth in their titles should they choose to do so.

As things stand, CPU clocks are halved compared to the standard Tegra X1, but it's the GPU aspect of the equation that will prove more controversial. Even while docked, Switch doesn't run at Tegra X1's full potential. Clock-speeds are locked here at 768MHz, considerably lower than the 1GHz found in Shield Android TV, but the big surprise from our perspective was the extent to which Nintendo has down-clocked the GPU to hit its thermal and battery life targets. That's not a typo: it really is 307.2MHz - meaning that in portable mode, Switch runs at exactly 40 per cent of the clock-speed of the fully docked device. And yes, the table below does indeed confirm that developers can choose to hobble Switch performance when plugged in to match the handheld profile should they so choose.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...-spec-analysis

I've seen a lot of outcry over the GPU power already, but that's 50% more graphical power than the Wii U with significantly faster CPU and RAM speeds. Shame we can't get the full version of X1 working in dock mode, but considering it runs the same software in portable mode, I doubt anyone could make full use of it anyway.

Shadow 12-19-2016 04:34 PM

Anyone thinking that the Switch was gonna blow the Xbone/Ps4 out of the water graphically is just deluding themselves. Besides, we're rapidly hitting a graphical plateau anyways and it soon won't make a difference.

Kalyx triaD 12-19-2016 06:11 PM

So we're looking at longer load times and less slick visuals in portable mode?

#BROKEN Hasney 12-20-2016 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4901751)
So we're looking at longer load times and less slick visuals in portable mode?

Load times should be the same as it's only the RAM and GPU that takes the hit and the memory speed is up to the developer. The screen on the Switch is 720p so the idea is that it will run at that resolution in portable mode and the higher GPU clocks when docked will drive a 1080p image.

Curtis 12-20-2016 11:53 AM

Feel like Nintendo can do anything they want with a console and it will still sell because of their game licenses like Zelda and Mario. They could literally make the "Nintendo Ass" which would be an ass shaped helmet that you put on your head and the monitor inside delivers a "VR gaming experience" to play Zelda : The Life of Link, but it is literally a plastic ass that you put your head into to play.




Would still sell because Nintendo game licenses.

Curtis 12-20-2016 11:54 AM

The last Nintendo console that seemed "cool" was the N64

Droford 12-20-2016 05:51 PM

I'm almost willing to bet it's Nintendo's last hardware device. They're finally going to realize they can't cut the mustard anymore with hardware and will just sell games.

The major selling point/reason for the switch is the portability factor and its basically crippled for portable use. Makes absolutely ZERO sense. Plus I doubt many people are dying to lug around what amounts to a small tablet just so they can play Nintendo games.

#BROKEN Hasney 12-20-2016 06:29 PM

Oh hey, it's the Nintendos Last Hardware rhetoric from the late 90's again!

Fun fact: Even the Wii U was profitable for them. Some games lost money, sure, but as a whole they came out on top again.

Emperor Smeat 12-26-2016 05:16 PM

Current rumor regarding the Switch's Virtual Console teases at Eternal Darkness being among the games planned for it based on recent trademark filings by Nintendo. Also being speculated Nintendo might be planning on doing more with the IP than just a re-release based on some of the wording in the new trademark.

https://www.destructoid.com/nintendo...e-407914.phtml
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/201...f_the_eternals

Destor 12-27-2016 04:06 PM

:eek:

Droford 12-27-2016 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 4902568)
Oh hey, it's the Nintendos Last Hardware rhetoric from the late 90's again!

Fun fact: Even the Wii U was profitable for them. Some games lost money, sure, but as a whole they came out on top again.

Yeah so explain Mario Run then.

Lock Jaw 12-27-2016 07:45 PM

It's a game they made for mobile phones, which I hear is also a big market these days.

It doesn't mean they are abandoning consoles.

Droford 12-27-2016 07:57 PM

The Wii U flops and all of a sudden Nintendo goes from "we'll never release games on mobile devices " to "we won't port existing games to mobile devices but we might create new games for them"

Hmm

Destor 12-27-2016 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4905814)
The Wii U flops and all of a sudden Nintendo goes from "we'll never release games on mobile devices " to "we won't port existing games to mobile devices but we might create new games for them"

Hmm

Sony was talking about consoles dieing in Japan. Sony.

Lock Jaw 12-27-2016 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4905814)
The Wii U flops and all of a sudden Nintendo goes from "we'll never release games on mobile devices " to "we won't port existing games to mobile devices but we might create new games for them"

Hmm

Didn't know they ever said they would never do mobile devices...... but as with any company it is probably all about the $, and that is a huge market that they can make money off of.....

Big Vic 12-28-2016 09:26 AM

I used to say I would never type 'lol' but now I do. Peoples opinions on things changes. You wave money in front of them and they will change faster.

Droford 12-28-2016 11:24 AM

And there is more money to be made selling games to the bazillion people with IPhones than there is the relatively small number of people (13 million for the Wii U) buying their consoles. Its just a fact.

Emperor Smeat 12-28-2016 05:38 PM

According to recent FCC filings, the battery for the Switch is similar to PS4 controllers in sense of not being easily replaceable. Also teasing the device won't support 3G nor LTE for Bluetooth capabilities.

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But these documents reveal that there will be Bluetooth available, but will not support 3G or LTE for on the go play (this makes sense for a Nintendo system, and the feature failed on the Vita, so why repeat history). The battery is also supposedly not removable or swappable, and the Switch will support 5Ghz Wi-Fi.
https://www.destructoid.com/fcc-fili...e-408285.phtml

drave 12-28-2016 06:09 PM

Not that I'm getting one, but the battery choice seems dumb.

Droford 12-29-2016 10:46 PM

So when the battery dies the million dollar question is can you still play it in the dock. Would be hilarious if not.

Destor 12-29-2016 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by drave (Post 4906282)
Not that I'm getting one, but the battery choice seems dumb.

I love my ps4 controller. Wouldnt change it for anything in the world...does xbone use baterries still?
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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4906859)
So when the battery dies the million dollar question is can you still play it in the dock. Would be hilarious if not.

The dock would 99% likely be the charger sooooooo...

Droford 12-29-2016 11:40 PM

Which is irrelevant if the battery goes bad

My first cell phone I had got to the point the battery would die in 30 minutes if it wasn't plugged in. Advances in battery tech aside if you get a bad battery and its not replaceable it usually means the thing is junk. One of the reasons why I only buy cell phones with replaceable batteries.

A $30 controller having a dead battery =/= a $300 console paperweight with a dead battery.

#BROKEN Hasney 12-30-2016 03:32 AM

What if the CPU dies in any console? These hypotheticals are DELIGHTFUL!

Battery is always user replaceable, no matter what the company tries to do.

McLegend 12-31-2016 06:33 PM

So is it a good decision to buy a Wii U? I want to play Zelda games plus the "party games"(so far out of the loop on everything video games). Or should I just wait for the Switch?

Emperor Smeat 12-31-2016 06:44 PM

If your really interested in a decent amount of games and can find one reasonably cheap, then sure. Nintendo has refurbished ones for around $200-$215 with 1-2 games if you don't care about having a used one.

Could also just wait till after the Switch event in a couple of weeks to get an idea of the games the Switch is going to have for launch and shortly afterwards. Maybe it will have similar type of party games you might be interested in.

Sepholio 12-31-2016 10:10 PM

I have fun with the wii u when I play it. The controller itself is bloody brilliant imo. Plus like you said Zelda and Mario and party games and kart racers. Also some decent niche jrpgs on there like xenoblade chronicles x. You can also watch YouTube and what not on the control which is sweet. The short range sucks though but then again the switch is trying to correct that.

drave 01-01-2017 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Destor (Post 4906869)
I love my ps4 controller. Wouldnt change it for anything in the world...does xbone use baterries still?


Ofc it does, it just isn't a pain in the dick to change it if needed. That's all I was saying. Why make it needlessly difficult.

Destor 01-01-2017 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by drave (Post 4907747)
Ofc it does, it just isn't a pain in the dick to change it if needed. That's all I was saying. Why make it needlessly difficult.

PS4 batteries cant be changed to my knowledge so i dunno about "ofc"

Physical baterries seems antiquated

#BROKEN Hasney 01-03-2017 09:03 AM

Looks like Zelda might be day 1

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I still don’t know exactly why I heard June launch for Zelda for so long from my EU sources. NA sources are able to verifiably confirm that it’s launching day one in NA. It’s more important that I update my info as I learn more rather than sticking to old info out of fear of reprisal.
Also, Mother 3:

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Yep, the one that has broken the percieved credibility of many a leaker before me. I have heard from a source at Nintendo (Source A), and two sources I will not at this stage comment on, that Mother 3 is ready for Switch and will be releasing in Q2 2017. The game features a new translation rather than the existing fan translation and has been sat ready to publish for multiple months. Emily Rogers and Tom Phillips past attempts to report on the existance of the project for Wii U were not inaccurate through fault on their part, the game was done and ready to go, but it was shelved to drive interest in the Switch once it became apparent the Wii U was not going to recover steam.
I firmly believe we will see the game release on Switch in Q2 2017. I am well aware that many before me have tried to report on this game without sucess, so I do not undertake this lightly.
To further elaborate, while a release date will not be given Jan 12th, I expect it to get a release date announcement at E3 2017, to be released imminently after or during the show. Mother 3 is going to be their “You can get the game soon after our presentation” announcement at E3 2017.

Droford 01-03-2017 04:25 PM

So the long awaited port of a game boy advance game from Japan in 2006 onto the VC is their big selling point for the Switch. I'm sure they'll be knocking stores doors down for that

Big Vic 01-03-2017 04:27 PM

Yeah but it's been re-translated.

Destor 01-03-2017 04:32 PM

Am I the only one who hates Mother?

Locke 01-03-2017 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4908865)
So the long awaited port of a game boy advance game from Japan in 2006 onto the VC is their big selling point for the Switch. I'm sure they'll be knocking stores doors down for that

Might be a bust but a lot of people want it, it's a really great game


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