Not sure why amazon doesnt have this thing up for preorder yet

The price for non in stock Switches won't move but if you actually want to buy one in March you'll be paying someone who bought it to resell more.

Lol so it will fail just like the Wii did :lol:

The grey one has been up and sold through. Not sure what's happening with the Neon.

Reggie:

If they do make a Metroid and it looks as good as Zelda.... I may get one down the line. Right now though, I'll skip the launch.

I don't think they have done enough at launch. Initial list looks poor and has made me decide against a pre-order. It feels like they are playing catch-up and rushing things.

Not enough on the table at launch for me, couple that with crazy prices on things like pro-controller have made me hesitant. Zelda wouldn't be enough for me anyway, even discounting the fact I already have a Wii U (which means Mario Kart doesn't interest me either)

Remains to be seen whether Arms and Switch 1 2 are going to be gimmicks are will be worth what you will be paying for them.

http://uk.ign.com/videos/2017/01/13/...-handheld-mode


Hnnnng. Looks amazing in portable mode even.

Boondoggle of a console. The price is clearly higher than people are expecting, they're selling two consoles. The Switch could have been this lightweight console, and everyone was happy with the initial pitch, but then they went out of their way to add shit to the joycons that most users won't see. If you don't pay $50 for 12Switch, you're not using the HD rumble, the gyro, the fucking IR hand sensor that nothing will ever use.

Rather than being a cheap piece of plastic with some wires, a dock is $90. What the fuck is in it. You can buy a tablet for less than half that. You get the Switch box and it's got 7 objects I. There, not counting wires.

Maybe they could have done a bog standard Switch and then released upgraded joycons down the line. It's modular and everything!

Gonna put the breaks on this for myself just to see where they go with it. Still gonna get it but probably wait till summer.

Zelda will be mine though.

Can't play Zelda and Mario Kart 8d on a tablet.

You can't play Zelda and Mario Kart 8d on a Switch dock either.

I'm led to believe that all the processing is self contained in the Switch. Maybe there's a TV scaler built into the Switch dock, but those are very cheap. Otherwise it's a couple of USB sockets and an HDMI port and a lump of plastic for $90. Why does the Dock cost more than a 2DS? Or even a set if joycons? At least they're loaded to the gills with different tech.

Maybe they'll do a special portable dock for $150
http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/o...4111-Z0053.jpg

Probably because the dock won't well well so they'll just make whatever profit they can. It's just a replacement item.

Like you said, there's not much in of so I'm sure 3rd parties will fill the gap too.

Nintendo should have just closed the switch off to only their games and just said "fuck it we know you aren't buying this for ports of x box 360 games from 4 years ago"

But Bomberman... :(

No ones gonna pay 60 bucks for Bomberman R in a world where there's thousands of puzzle type games to be had for free including a bunch of Bomberman knockoffs

Zelda takes up 13gb of the less than 32 gb storage.

They should include a microsd card

Or just buy it on cart for cheaper...

Its not like the gamepad (that was also quoted around $100 for a replacement?), its not a replacement, they showed off an owner of two docks on the original trailer. You could have one in the living room, the bedroom, your divorced dad's house. Its not like they should dissuade people from buying them.

Edit: yeah, replacement Wii u gamepad was $108.

Grand Theft Mario might be worth getting a system over. That's the kind of game that proved with the WiiU was nothing by not having one like it on the system.

I don't think I've ever gotten a system at launch. Don't like the idea of being an unpaid tester.

Bomberman is £59.99 at GAME? The jig is up, Nintendo is going right for the 30 somethings.

Unless it's something amazing Bomberman should be a free add on dlc.

I've got every Nintendo system at launch since the Gamecube. They make shit well as none have even broken.

:lol, one of the most addictive multiplayer games should be free. Yeah, so should the WWE Network then.

£20 would be ace for a new Bomberman. But they've not set the price on that being £60. That's our old pals at Konami.

Everything is way more than it should be. I don't really begrudge game prices any more, but it feels like VR where they know they're selling to a captive wealthy audience and so everyone is here to fill their boots on people looking to fill another set of black ikea shelves in the game room.

I think it'll come down just before or slightly after launch. Knack was 55 quid prior to the PS4 launch and Dual Shock 4's still RRP at 50.

Bomberman is amazing. What the hell is everyone talking about in this thread? Once I buy the system I will buy Bomberman.

It's no wonder this console is so expensive, there's haptic feedback in the touchscreen too. But whats the point in that?

Yeah me and my buds were heavy into Bomberman Live just four years ago. Just a perfect concept.

Did anything in the Treehouse use the touchscreen at all?

Nope. Not a thing.

At least the Dual shock 4 is no longer the biggest collection of unused oddities in gaming.

I mean, I imagine it will be used when the inevitable Mario Maker happens, but I don't need haptic feedback for that.

It be a little more awkward without a stylus. At some point it's probably neglible to have a touchscreen in there, but adding the haptic feedback, again, tech that many owners will never use if they don't buy the right few games. The Switch takes so many risks in this regard.

$300 is not expensive.

Not really, but I bet a lot of people disagree. I honestly want to know why the fuck the dock is $90. I could see people wanting another set of joycons, a pro controller, another dock - fairly reasonable setup, and you've landed on $600.

http://www.polygon.com/2017/1/13/142...switch-dock-do

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/MDl...k_back_960.png

People in that thread are doing the 'replacement part' thing, but that's nonsense. Having a dock in one place, a dock in another, and having the system be portable between the two would be, like, a completely normal part of the concept of the Switch.

So if a dock is worth $90 and the joycons are worth $80 and the joycon dock is worth $30 then that's $200 dollars for a controller and a piece of plastic. The actual Nintendo Switch is then hypothetically a further $100 dollars - about the same as the piece of plastic it sits in.

$300.00 is not a lot but all the add-ons seem insane. There will be some third party that will sell the controllers aND such a lot cheaper though.

Agreed

Hence why I've changed from a Day 1 buy to a Day Summer buy. Still getting it, just gonna wait for the game list to fill up.

Yeah, the only add on I'm getting at launch is a case. It's all I need though.

No pro controller?

From the impressions, it's not needed. The grip feels like a Dreamcast controller.

Bunch of Switch related news:
* Tomorrow's Nintendo Direct will focus on both Fire Emblem Warriors and a Fire Emblem mobile game.
https://www.destructoid.com/tomorrow...s-412906.phtml

* Gearbox announced they currently don't have plans for a Switch version of Borderlands 3.
https://www.destructoid.com/randy-pi...--412822.phtml

* Five Neo-Geo games were revealed to be among the launch lineup for Switch's eShop although might separate from the Virtual Console service based on speculations.
https://www.destructoid.com/these-ar...h-412653.phtml

* Nintendo announced the Switch will be able to support up to 2TB for external storage devices when those get released at a later date post-launch. In terms of launch, highest that can be supported is 512GB mainly due to 1TB cards not existing at the moment.
https://www.destructoid.com/the-nint...t-412429.phtml

*Nintendo also announced both Miiverse and StreetPass won't be carried over to the Switch. In regards to Miiverse, Nintendo will be supporting other social media services instead and in regards to StreetPass, its mainly due to them not considering the device as an actual handheld and how the 3DS StreetPass worked.
https://www.destructoid.com/nintendo...s-412091.phtml

Absolutely mental if you are forced to buy virtual console games again. I know there is money in it for them, but once you buy a game from their library, you should own that game regardless of the console.

Having to buy it again every 3 years is ridiculous.

The only difference between Zelda on Wii u and switch is it runs 720p on Wii U and 900p on the switch.

Lol

Show me a more powerful portable console that would run it at 1080p?

They've already done it three times.

I'm fine if there's $1 upgrade fees because there's work to be done, especially adding online play. But there's some stupid rumor going around that yes, there will be upgrade fees if you bought it on Wii U or 3DS, if you have both it's free and if you have it on Wii only then you're SOL.

An upgrade fee is fine, as long as it's small, but buying the whole game again is totally unfair, especially considering how quickly the Wii U is done.

Yeah, if there's no upgrade offer, my VC experience will be the monthly rentals only. I can't do it again.

My point is that Zelda is supposedly the killer launch title to sell the switch and there's basically no difference between the Wii U version and the switch version. Most people can't tell the difference from 720 and 1080 (let alone 900).

I think Droford has been a huge negative nancy in this thread but to his point I am glad Zelda is on Wii U so I don't have to buy Switch right away (If at all)

The Gamecube version of Twilight Princess was seen as superior to the Wii version even though it came out a month after the Wii version. Probably because it was just a port of the gamecube game with tacked on motion controls..not to mention the fact it was mirrored just to correspond to how people would hold the wiimote.

I can't help but figure the same is true for Breath of the wild.

Is this true? I don't remember hearing this.

I had one freind that hated the Wii version because "Link is a lefty"


Does his opinion count? Because it's the only one like I've ever heard.

The graphics were stretched on the Wii for widescreen if set to widescreen because the game wasn't made in widescreen. Think watching a 4:3 movie stretched to fit a 16:9 screen. And worse because it wasn't HD.

It was mirrored (left is right/right is left) for the Wii version because of the wiimote.

Motion controls were just tacked on

I mention this because it seems obvious that BOTW was a Wii U game and its just being ported to the Switch

Romance of the Three Kingdoms XIII sounds like the first game to use all the features.

I've just had it pointed out to me that the only differences between Battlefield 4 on the PS4 was that it wa 720p on the PS3 and 900p on the PS4.

Lol.

Cross gen games are the norm now at console launches. Did you just forget the XB1 and PS4 launches?

I don't think Sony was counting on BF4 selling ps4s

Then what were they counting on? Because it sure as hell wasn't Knack or Killzone with how they turned out.

When asked if Wii U purchases will transfer to the Switch Reggie states "we now have the capability to tie customer purchases to their particular Nintendo account." And says more info is coming.

Still expecting an upgrade fee, but that's something at least.

Doubt that will give us an MK8 upgrade fee or anything though, just because it would leave disc users out in the cold.

You're now hearing it from me

I just googled it yeah apparently people did like the GC version more. I only played the GC version, never really saw the Wii version.

Article on the differnces between the BOTW games

HD Rumble was confirmed for BOTW too. Wonder how it'll be used.

I suppose the Switch is a box that people pour all their hopes and dreams into, so no surprise they expected a 3D Zelda to run at 60fps.

Is there another big game that ran at 30fps?

Most games do on console so they can push the graphics instead. It's a shame as I prefer the frame rate, but it is what it is.

Nintendo does target 60fpa most of the time, but an open world like Zelda makes that target hard.

Nocalis showed the dark theme and accidentally announced some games.

http://i.imgur.com/GGc2dos.gif

There were high hopes for Killzone, iirc

For those interested, the Switch version of Stardew Valley got delayed and won't be available at launch nor likely during its launch window. Being implied the developer needs more time for the port and may or may not be related to being busy fixing loading issues on the game's other platforms.
https://www.destructoid.com/stardew-...h-413318.phtml

Stardew Valley seems like the perfect game for a system like this, very relaxing to be able to take with you on flights and stuff.

Am wondering whether I would get enough trading in my Wii U to make getting one of these worth while.

Not fussed with the launch titles, but the machine itself and it's portability really appeal because I travel so much.

I think the only reason people liked the gc version of Twilight princess more is because it was a more traditional control scheme. Motion control was in its infancy and it was just tacked onto twilight for wii. I personally liked the wii version more.

Death mountain being west of Hyrule castle really bothered me

But that's my only gripe

That sucks. But ConcernedApe is the hardest working guy in the business so I'm not worried.

Bunch of Switch related news:

* According to Capcom, they currently don't have plans on porting any games from the Resident Evil series to the Switch while teasing Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers could end up being a timed exclusive for the console. In regards to Ultra Street Fighter II, Capcom state they'd only consider porting the game to other systems if the Switch version sold well likely to prevent people from just waiting for it on other consoles.
https://www.destructoid.com/capcom-h...h-414196.phtml
https://www.destructoid.com/capcom-i...h-414190.phtml

* Even though only FIFA was announced and later to be revealed to be a Xbox 360 port of the game, EA claims they have been in constant talks with Nintendo for stronger support for the Switch. Also claimed Nintendo has been making a bigger effort to get more major publishers on board for 3rd party support for the Switch.
https://www.destructoid.com/ea-claim...h-414184.phtml

* Developer TT Games states a Switch version of Lego Worlds is currently in development for the system. Will be one of two Lego series games currently in development with a port of Lego City Undercover being the other game.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nin.../1100-6447180/

* Switch's launch lineup got a small boost recently as Square Enix stated the RPG game I Am Setsuna will be available for the console's launch on March 3rd. Previously the game was only announced to be arriving some point in March and likely not at launch.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ano.../1100-6447164/

* Legend of Zelda series producer Eiji Aonuma stated Breath of the Wild will have two endings with one being a secret ending only triggered by doing certain things.
https://www.destructoid.com/series-p...g-414183.phtml

Capcom revealed some new details for Ultra Street Fighter 2:

https://www.destructoid.com/ultra-st...y-414458.phtml

Literally none of that is news and is fairly standard for Capcom fighters now.

You silly, Capcom.

Capcom: Street Fighter has street fighting in it. kthxbai

Seems like Capcoms MO right now.

I mean, an actually great Resident Evil game is getting zero marketing support bar some shitty viral video attempt. It's a numbered Resident Evil game!

Sony and MS get Street fighter 5. Nintendo gets street fighter 2.

On paper that looks really really sad.

They're advertising on WWE programming

Only Sony gets SF5. MS got shit.

I thought it was timed exclusive to Sony :o

Nah, they even went so far to say that anything involving a V, including if they released a Super, would not be on any other console.

Capcom is worse at advertising strategy then Nintendo is.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">French gaming mag JV Le Mag creates a whimsical Switch-related cover <a href="https://t.co/UsNNqzUzcw">https://t.co/UsNNqzUzcw</a> <a href="https://t.co/SWD2dfvwQF">pic.twitter.com/SWD2dfvwQF</a></p>&mdash; GoNintendoTweet (@GoNintendoTweet) <a href="https://twitter.com/GoNintendoTweet/status/824106301600972800">January 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Who is the ref? PC master race?

Of course.

Not sure if I stated this before but I pre-ordered zelda for Wii U

Probably a good move even if it ends up running worse (the framerate wasn't great at E3). It's sold out on Amazon, so will probably become a collector item.

Fuck, better keep it in the wrapper then.

going to Toronto tomorrow to try out the Switch. I hope it doesn't make me regret pre-ordering

How was it?

Would also be interested to hear how it was. A lot of YouTuber videos have been crazy positive after initially criticizing the system. Can't help but think they are at Nintendo sponsored events that they will want to be asked back to.

After thinking about it, I took the plunge. Traded in my Wii U, because I am certain it will lose value, and a few games for £160, so will end up only paying £120 to "upgrade" the system.

With how much I travel, it might be worth that price alone to be able to play virtual console games while travelling.

The console is a blast to play. I thoroughly enjoyed everything I played. They had several games available to play. The only ones I recall that we didn't get a chance to try out were Puyo Puyo Tetris, Disgaea, and Just Dance 2017. Wanted to play Tetris but cbf to bother with Just Dance. Already kind of know what I'm getting in D5 so didn't feel too bummed about missing out on that. I'll try to recap as best as I can the games we did play. In no particular order:


1-2 Switch
It definitely felt like the "Wii Sports" title of the franchise. Very disappointed that it isn't simply being bundled with the console. The games were fun, don't get me wrong. Really, I would have liked a title like this to have been fleshed out further and just made into a WarioWare title tbh. Seems like that would be a perfect way to showcase the console while retaining familiarity with consumers. The cow milking thing is hilarious. I lost to my buddy (13 cups of milk to his 14), but made sure to retain full eye contact at all time. Definitely a fun title overall, not sure I'd pay like $60 or w/e for it. (that last sentence will be a common theme as I go on)

Arms
Definitely an awesome game. I was skeptical at first (seems to be the consensus review of this game) but it was intense. I suck at/generally don't like fighting games but this was a different beast. Lots of mobility, and blocking and jumping n shit felt great. Only played for a Bo3 round so didn't get to see all the game had to offer but it feels like a pretty shallow title in terms of the total package. Seemingly lots of unlockables, though. Again, I think this is a title I'd feel comfortable paying like $30 rather than $60 for.

Has-Been Heroes
I'm not as in-tune with things as someone like Hasney or w/e so honestly wasn't sure what this was, entirely. It felt very much like Plants vs Zombies + the Find Mii Streetpass minigame thing. But with more strategy involved. Almost felt like some indie board game where you have to juggle when to do certain moves, etc. I dunno. I actually really enjoyed it, I may keep an eye on it in the future. I could see myself dumping several hours into this type of game (it's technically a roguelike) to see how far I can push myself.

Splatoon 2
I was really happy during the announce trailer that they weren't simply porting Splatoon over and were instead making a full sequel. Smart move. That being said, the game plays identically to Splatoon, with a few new guns or w/e it is. This is not a bad thing, just something to be aware of. The new Dual Splatties (I think that's what they're called) are nice but don't really feel all that revolutionary. Being able to do a dodge roll while out of ink was awesome, yet somehow that's only allowable when using the new gun. Did a second round using a Splattershot and kept trying to roll but was unable to. Seems like they should have just added that option as a new core movement thing to the game, not specific to one gun. But anyway. It's Splatoon. If you've played Splatoon, you'll know exactly what you're getting. Probably a day-one purchase for me when it launches, even if I'll feel a little ripped off doing so.

Ultra Street Fighter II
I don't know, it's fucking Street Fighter 2. With VIOLENT Ken. Meh.

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
So, I'm probably one of a handful of people in North America who own a Wii U but do not own Mario Kart 8 already. So, for me, this is a great thing to come out for the Switch. It's basically MK8 with the DLC, and a better battle mode. I'm sold.

Snipperclips
Weird little puzzle game. Seemed fun. Seemed like something I'd buy for $8 on the 3DS eShop more than anything, though. Can't imagine spending much more than that on something like this, and I don't feel like being on the Switch does anything particularly special for it.

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Oh baby. It's Zelda. I've intentionally been trying to avoid spoilers etc. for the game to go in fresh, but I couldn't just ignore it. They had 20 minute play sessions for BotW set up. Did the whole intro thing and all, and the game just feels incredible. Picking up like a woodcutter's axe and swinging it, the weapon has appropriate weighting to it and everything feels very crisp. The equipment/crafting etc. has me excited. A lot of the small details feel very nice too, like enemies who are downwind of you will pick up your scent, and there is a temperature gauge so as you wear more/heavier equipment your temp goes up. Feels like this is Nintendo's most ambitious stab at making a modernized title in quite some time that isn't just some gimmick that nobody else is doing, y'know? That being said, the fact that it is coming out on both the Switch and Wii U kind of makes the system as a whole feel kind of... I dunno, cheapened? I'm getting it on Switch at launch regardless. The scope of BotW makes every other title feel lacking in comparison.

Super Bomberman R
It's Bomberman. It's great. Me and my buddy did a 4 player FFA with a set of Nintendo socks on the line. I lost. Fuck my life. I love Bomberman.

Sonic Mania
It was... Sonic 2. With a new level? Eh?

Skylanders: Imaginators
I dunno, Skylanders was there so we pissed about on it. The animation of Bowser gliding across a chain was very poorly done. That's my only real takeaway tbh. Game seemed fun though, just nothing I am particularly interested in, I guess. Felt very Ratchet n Clank, which is cool and all, but nothing I'd be lining up for on a new console.



Overall the games felt great. But like I said, a lot of the games, especially compared to the scope of Zelda, felt more like $20-40 type purchases, not full $60 items. (not sure what the MSRP on any of them is). Some of the stuff like Snipperclips felt like it could easily be on the 3DS. But Zelda and Splatoon and some of the other stuff alone makes me very excited for the system.

The controller itself felt fine. Much smaller than I thought it would be but it never really "felt" small, if that makes sense. My biggest gripe is that the ZL and L / ZR and R buttons are far too close together. Pro Controller felt solid. The docked joycons felt good. Using the screen with the joycons attached felt more ergonomic than the Wii U Gamepad as well, IMO.

Overall very excited for March 3rd.

Yeah, the Switch in full attached mode feels thinner than the Wii U gamepad at least.

1-2 Switch has already gone a lot down in price over here. That and Bomberman can now be found for £35.

ARMS can be a a full priced game if they add a proper single player, decent online mode and sufficient party modes to it. But yeah, it's not there yet.

Snipperclips is $20 thankfully. Quite looking forward to that one. Got a long train journey in April so will probably fuck about with it with my gf.

Sonic Mania is supposed to be a re-imagining of what a 2D Sonic on Saturn would have been like if Sonic Team wasn't fucked up.

Any thoughts on the HD Rumble?

Neat

That's good to hear about the prices on some of the games. Snipperclips was fun (I enjoy games that make me think; Picross still one of my fav series of games on the DS/3DS line)

I didn't have a lot of time to play 1-2 Switch, but I did get to play the one game where you hold the joycon like it's a wooden box with marbles inside it and you have to guess how many. I would've sworn there were 3 in there but it ended up being 5. It definitely felt realistic.

I am still waiting to hear virtual console news, the longer it goes on, the more I think it will be bad news...