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Destor

11-10-2017 08:08 PM

It only doesnt matter if you dont look at butts in seats and only look at your preconceived notions

Destor

11-10-2017 08:08 PM

Norton had legitimate success as a top guy in a legitimate market

KIRA	11-10-2017 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maluco (Post 5040542)

X Pac was one of the most trusted workers in his time in WWE. He was literally the go to guy for new talent to be tested and joined the nWo as the guy to carry the workload. At his peak he was extremely popular too.

X-factor was abysmal, but nWo B was just as bad and did a ton of damage to the brand.

I can literally only remember powerbombs when I think of Norton.

Bested here by a better worker and a more charismatic personality in Pac

Miz is also safe and thats great but all people care about and want to see is Braun killing people. I for one do remember stuff Norton did before ending lives via powerbomb.

When I was a little guy and Xpac had worn out his welcome we started to realize he wasn't cool at all he was just always associated with cool people

Lock Jaw

11-11-2017 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 5040609)

Come on Destor, the 2nd biggest market does not matter. How many people in the Canadian Football League does anyone know of? Fucking 0 because it does not matter.

I know a lot of people in the Canadian Football League..... and that is with not caring about it at all.

Lock Jaw

11-11-2017 12:37 AM

Anyways, I vote for Scott Norton because I am afraid he will powerbomb me if I don't.

SlickyTrickyDamon

11-11-2017 12:54 AM

then Meng should be automatically put into the HOF without a vote.

Nicky Fives

11-11-2017 01:24 AM

X-Pac easily in my eyes. Back in 1998-99, the average person could have picked out X-Pac and known he was a wrestler, he was that over. No average person knew who Scott Norton ever was.

Nicky Fives

11-11-2017 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5040708)

I know a lot of people in the Canadian Football League..... and that is with not caring about it at all.

I'm Canadian and I can name like 4 people..... It doesn't matter at all....

SlickyTrickyDamon

11-11-2017 01:28 AM

Doug Flutie. That is all you need to know about the CFL.

#BROKEN Hasney

11-11-2017 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 5040746)

X-Pac easily in my eyes. Back in 1998-99, the average person could have picked out X-Pac and known he was a wrestler, he was that over. No average person knew who Scott Norton ever was.

I hate this fucking website

#BROKEN Hasney

11-11-2017 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maluco (Post 5040542)

I can literally only remember anus tearing with X-Pac. Scott Norton was a draw in Japan, X-Pac is a draw on podcasts because his drug stories are funny

SlickyTrickyDamon

11-11-2017 01:38 AM

Japan doesn't count here. It's like a tourist being a hit with the ladies. Only popular because of the differences not the talent/personality.

#BROKEN Hasney

11-11-2017 01:38 AM

I dont even ever look st these objectively, but Destor is talking sense. If a Norton match is happening on one channel and a Bret match on another, you better goddamn believe I'm watching Norton.

#BROKEN Hasney

11-11-2017 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 5040754)

Japan doesn't count here. It's like a tourist being a hit with the ladies. Only popular because of the differences not the talent/personality.

Is that like you not counting anywhere in life?

#BROKEN Hasney

11-11-2017 01:40 AM

A vote for Syxx is a vote for The Young Bucks

#BROKEN Hasney

11-11-2017 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead (Post 5040499)

It is like choosing Albert over Pac.

Which is the obvious choice still

#BROKEN Hasney

11-11-2017 02:20 AM

http://38.media.tumblr.com/bcc4da057...zdtdo4_500.jpg

#BROKEN Hasney

11-11-2017 02:25 AM

How many Stallone movies was Syxx in?

Spoiler: 0. More points to Norton.

Bad News Gertner

11-11-2017 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 5040755)

I dont even ever look st these objectively, but Destor is talking sense. If a Norton match is happening on one channel and a Bret match on another, you better goddamn believe I'm watching Norton.

And I'd better see some schmuck get powerbombed through the mat

#BROKEN Hasney

11-11-2017 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5040792)

And I'd better see some schmuck get powerbombs through the mat

Goddamn right. He was still power bombing motherfuckers this year.

#BROKEN Hasney

11-11-2017 07:42 AM

REQUEST: If Sean "Bret, Hall and Eddie carried me to my three good matches before I was found out to be so terrible they christened a type of negative heat after me" Waltman wins this, his next opponent should be Masahiro Chono so I know which peoole have no merit in discussions about wrestling.

#BuildingTheList

Lock Jaw

11-11-2017 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 5040747)

I'm Canadian and I can name like 4 people..... It doesn't matter at all....

Living in Saskatchewan, the one place in Canada where people actually care about the CFL, and working in tv probably helped me. When I was in Toronto probably also knew about 4.

Fignuts

11-11-2017 08:12 AM

Wow, check out STD totally sticking it to Dave Meltzer by not counting Japan in a wrestling forum poll. That'll show him!

Fignuts

11-11-2017 08:14 AM

Only thing x-pac ever did that I cared about was tearing his own asshole apart on a bronco buster. Nothing else was as fun as wastching Norton work.

Ol Dirty Dastard

11-11-2017 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 5040755)

I dont even ever look st these objectively, but Destor is talking sense. If a Norton match is happening on one channel and a Bret match on another, you better goddamn believe I'm watching Norton.

Which is fair enough. But I would choose Bret over pretty much everyone. Knah'mean?

Sepholio

11-11-2017 08:17 AM

Bret wasn't all that great imo.

Ol Dirty Dastard

11-11-2017 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5040808)

Bret wasn't all that great imo.

As I said, fair enough. But there's enough people who think otherwise.

Fignuts

11-11-2017 08:26 AM

Well all this Bret talk is as irrelevant as X-pac's last WWE run, so whatever.

#BROKEN Hasney

11-11-2017 08:36 AM

All this Bret talk should be ripped up.

Much like X-Pac's anus.

Evil Vito

11-11-2017 08:41 AM

Norton kicked ass in Japan and was one of the many wrestlers stupidly underutilized by WCW.

Bad News Gertner

11-11-2017 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5040708)

I know a lot of people in the Canadian Football League..... and that is with not caring about it at all.

Pinball Clemons ftw

Bad News Gertner

11-11-2017 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 5040550)

Who did Bret Hart want to work with?

http://i.imgur.com/M0aSmnF.gif

Destor

11-11-2017 08:48 AM

Amazing

Maluco

11-11-2017 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 5040753)

I can literally only remember anus tearing with X-Pac. Scott Norton was a draw in Japan, X-Pac is a draw on podcasts because his drug stories are funny

While anal tearing and drugs are not a great combo, there is so much more.

I remember the fluke win over Razor, the awesome title match with Bret, his reveal as Syxx, fun cruiser matches in WCW, his reveal as X-Pac, as a key guy in European title feuds (fond memories of that title), his tag team with Kane...sort of tails off after that, bar a few good IC matches.

Had a decent career though, in spite of his obvious problems

Maluco

11-11-2017 12:45 PM

Also, I can remember good to great matches with Owen, Malenko, Razor, D'lo, Shane, Martel, Marty, Jarrett, Flair, Hakushi, Triple H, HBK as well as tags with Razor, Kane.

Japanese wrestling can't be discounted, but those writing off Waltman with "lol anal tearing...guys....Japanese wrestling i!!" are just as bad.

Also, LOVE Bret Hart...my "list" would probably start with guys who don't give him any credit for the worker he was.

#BROKEN Hasney

11-11-2017 01:30 PM

This isn't about Japanese wrestling, this is about X-Pac beating a great from anywhere. Here I'll write out his best promo ever:

"MAKE SOME NOISE!!!"

Unless you count the time he blacked up, I guess.

I wouldn't be arguing so hard against it if it was Billy Gun winning even.

Ol Dirty Dastard

11-11-2017 01:53 PM

I like pac, but am entertained by Hasney's campaign against him.

#1-norm-fan

11-11-2017 06:44 PM

I've yet to vote. I think X-Pac had more of an impact but my general guide in these things is "If both were booked equally well on a level playing field, who would flourish more?" And I've gotta go with Norton there. Leaning toward him.

Fignuts

11-11-2017 07:06 PM

X-pac's impact was completely dependant on the people around him. By himself he didn't offer anything a hundred other top cruiserweights couldn't do.

KIRA	11-11-2017 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5040952)

X-pac's impact was completely dependant on the people around him. By himself he didn't offer anything a hundred other top cruiserweights couldn't do.

EXACTLY.

Even at his height X-pac was only ever a mid/lower card champ

Norton was a fucking world champion.

And for everybody arguing the general public doesn't know about it that does not matter. YOU know about it.

IIf X-pac had half the charisma people are claiming his group shouldve been at least as popular as The Brood.

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