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#1-norm-fan 10-12-2017 12:11 AM

TPWW Greatest Manager of All Time Tournament: Qualifying Round Part 1
 
Gonna try to do a tournament once every couple months or so to decide TPWW's definitive favorite in different categories. First off... THE GREATEST MANAGER OF ALL TIME TOURNAMENT. For the sake of not making it too cluttered, I'm splitting this qualifying round into 2. There will be a total of 64 managers in this tournament. WHO WILL WIN??? (Alright, there isn't a lot of drama here. But the journey/discussion could be fun at least...)
































Destor 10-12-2017 12:14 AM

4 or 5 of these a tough

Simple Fan 10-12-2017 12:16 AM

Great idea and great category to start off with. Wrestling managers are something that is lacking in wrestling today. Enzo would be a great manager I feel. Might take a while to get these first round vite in though.

Destor 10-12-2017 12:17 AM

Is a poll coming or should i list my picks?

Simple Fan 10-12-2017 12:18 AM

Yeah wa fixing to list which is what might have taken a while.

Simple Fan 10-12-2017 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5026777)
4 or 5 of these a tough

I felt even more than that. Alot are pretty even and need some thinking. There are some that are pretty easy though.

Mr. Nerfect 10-12-2017 12:24 AM

The one I'm having trouble with most is actually Zeb Colter vs. Trish Stratus, lol. Like, Colter is great at talking...but Trish Stratus...

#1-norm-fan 10-12-2017 12:25 AM

Polls up!

Simple Fan 10-12-2017 12:26 AM

All right, now we're talking.

Sepholio 10-12-2017 12:26 AM

Where the hell is THE MOUTH OF THE SOUTH in there?

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-12-2017 12:28 AM

Well, you forgot Jim Cornette and Jimmy Hart.

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-12-2017 12:29 AM

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#1-norm-fan 10-12-2017 12:29 AM

This is only part 1 of the qualifying round.

Doing 64 poll options in one go would have been... yeah...

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-12-2017 12:30 AM

Yay.

Sepholio 10-12-2017 12:30 AM

Theres only a couple people on that entire list that I MIGHT pick over Jimmy Hart, honestly. And it would be a HARD choice.

Sepholio 10-12-2017 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5026790)
This is only part 1 of the qualifying round.

Ah that changes things.

ACCEPTABLE.

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-12-2017 12:31 AM

Baby Doll over Captain Lou Albano SimpleFan?

Disqualify all of his votes.

Sepholio 10-12-2017 12:31 AM

Probably would have noticed if I actually read your posts.....but I had to click on the shiny spoiler tags and skip that part.

Destor 10-12-2017 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5026783)
The one I'm having trouble with most is actually Zeb Colter vs. Trish Stratus, lol. Like, Colter is great at talking...but Trish Stratus...

Trish added nothing to T&A. She was green...

Destor 10-12-2017 12:34 AM

Shout out to Sullivan for being worst on this list

Mr. Nerfect 10-12-2017 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5026796)
Trish added nothing to T&A. She was green...

But the wood promo...

#1-norm-fan 10-12-2017 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5026796)
Trish added nothing to T&A. She was green...

Oh, she added a couple things to it...

Destor 10-12-2017 12:36 AM

:lol:

Simple Fan 10-12-2017 12:37 AM

Agree that some are left out of this greatest manager category while there are some questionable entries as well but also recongize this is just part 1 of the qualifying round. Any way some of the compelling matchups for me were Steph vs Sherri, JJ Dillon vs Truth Martini, Colter vs Trish, Teddy vs Vickie, and Estrada vs Race. I ended up going with Steph, Dillon, Colter, Vickie, and Estrada.

Sepholio 10-12-2017 12:39 AM

Yea Teddy vs Vickie was a tough one for me, as was Estrada vs Race.

Simple Fan 10-12-2017 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 5026794)
Baby Doll over Captain Lou Albano SimpleFan?

Disqualify all of his votes.

Fuck you, Seen way more Baby Doll than I did Lou Albino. Couldn't rightfully vote for him.

Sepholio 10-12-2017 12:40 AM

I'm surprised how close Mr. Fuji vs Slick is, tbh. Mr. Fuji was the shiznittttteeee.

Mr. Nerfect 10-12-2017 12:42 AM

I really love Slick. Just think Mr. Fuji is a lot more significant and got a lot more heat.

Destor 10-12-2017 12:42 AM

Ive got a sweet spot for the diamond doll

Mr. Nerfect 10-12-2017 12:44 AM

I voted for Kimberly too. Never really impressed by Whippleman. Kimberly added something to the overall presentation of things.

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-12-2017 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 5026806)
Fuck you, Seen way more Baby Doll than I did Lou Albino. Couldn't rightfully vote for him.

Which one of them was fatter? :lol:

Simple Fan 10-12-2017 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 5026813)
Which one of them was fatter? :lol:

You

Lock Jaw 10-12-2017 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5026797)
Shout out to Sullivan for being worst on this list

And Sonny Onoo for being the best. Japanese tourist with a disposable camera a premium gimmick.

Destor 10-12-2017 01:04 AM

No clue how ono is losing right now

Simple Fan 10-12-2017 01:14 AM

The most toughest for me were Steph vs Sherri, Dillon vs Truth, and Colter vs Trish. I chose Steph over Sherri just because she was involved in alot bigger storylines and obviously a bigger part of the individual
Industry, Sherri was great though.Dillon vs Truth was only hard because I'm a big fan of Truth Martini and think he's one of the best modern day managers, Dillon is the obvious choice though. Would have loved to see Truth in a better matchup really. Colter vs Trish wasn't all that hard as I took Colters previous work as a manager under a different name into the equation as well and he clearly comes out on top. Trish is hot though and the only thing good about T&A.

Simple Fan 10-12-2017 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5026826)
No clue how ono is losing right now

I'd say alot of it has to do with lack of really seeing him. The name and face look familiar but nothing that really sticks out to me. Granted I'm younger than most on here and just haven't seen alot that happened before other than what I've personally looked up on the Network.

I've probably seen more of Onoo live but it just didn't stick out to me. Sullivan resurfacing in ROH recently though made me look him up and watch a bit of him and he just seems more interesting to me than Onoo.

Bad News Gertner 10-12-2017 01:59 AM

Kevin Sullivan is amazing. That's why.

Bad News Gertner 10-12-2017 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5026809)
I really love Slick. Just think Mr. Fuji is a lot more significant and got a lot more heat.

Plus, Fuji managed Demolition and Yokozuna to tag and world title gold respectively. Slick was sort of a jobber manager

Bad News Gertner 10-12-2017 02:01 AM

Also, The Grand Wizard better be in the second round of polls.

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-12-2017 03:16 AM

Anybody voting against Ernie Roth will feel the wrath of STD.

Sixx 10-12-2017 03:46 AM

Heyman looks like Jim Belushi in that pic.

Destor 10-12-2017 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5026832)
Kevin Sullivan is amazing. That's why.

Not as a manager he wasnt

Bad News Gertner 10-12-2017 11:15 AM

What do you consider him "managing"? He's really not a manager to begin with. He was great with the New Guinea Headhunters in Continental, his stuff with the Varsity Club and his Florida stuff.

Destor 10-12-2017 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5026919)
What do you consider him "managing"? He's really not a manager to begin with. He was great with the New Guinea Headhunters in Continental, his stuff with the Varsity Club and his Florida stuff.

Dungeon of Doom. He was cutting promos and doing 2nd for half the stable.

Destor 10-12-2017 11:20 AM

None of it worked.

Sixx 10-12-2017 11:22 AM

Sullivan is that gimp Benoit stole his wife from, right?

Destor 10-12-2017 11:23 AM

lol correct

Sixx 10-12-2017 11:24 AM

Fuck that midget.

Bad News Gertner 10-12-2017 11:31 AM

If we are considering his Dungeon of Doom stuff as managing, then his stuff with the Headhunters and Varsity Club count too. That stuff was great.

Droford 10-12-2017 11:37 AM

Save some time and just do Heyman vs Heenan

Sixx 10-12-2017 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5026926)
Save some time and just do Heyman vs Heenan

True dat.

Droford 10-12-2017 11:43 AM

Can't really consider the women to be Managers..they were Valets. Unless it was Alexandra York of the York Foundation

Destor 10-12-2017 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5026928)
Can't really consider the women to be Managers..they were Valets. Unless it was Alexandra York of the York Foundation

Valet is sexist term TBF

Big Vic 10-12-2017 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5026925)
If we are considering his Dungeon of Doom stuff as managing, then his stuff with the Headhunters and Varsity Club count too. That stuff was great.

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Destor 10-12-2017 12:08 PM

so bad

Anybody Thrilla 10-12-2017 12:34 PM

Some of these have no business being first round matches. Slick is getting hosed.

Bad News Gertner 10-12-2017 12:49 PM

Slick was a jobber manager.

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-12-2017 12:52 PM

Slick really stank

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-12-2017 12:52 PM

Heenan vs oscar lol

Big Vic 10-12-2017 12:55 PM

Who is Oscar?

Destor 10-12-2017 12:57 PM

Men On a Mission

Anybody Thrilla 10-12-2017 01:01 PM

Slick was a fucking Jive Soul Bro, so why don't you guys go fuck yourselves?

Anybody Thrilla 10-12-2017 01:01 PM

He also convinced Kamala that he. Was. A MAN!

Gripping stuff.

Anybody Thrilla 10-12-2017 01:02 PM

Also, I definitely didn't vote for Slick, but you know what I mean.

Anybody Thrilla 10-12-2017 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5026947)
Who is Oscar?

You see, it was clever because...

Men on a Mission
M.O.M.
Mabel Oscar Mo

That's how you spell King of the Ring 95

Big Vic 10-12-2017 01:07 PM

google:

greg girard oscar

and look at the description of the first link.

Ruien 10-12-2017 01:07 PM

Where is Stacy Kiebler?

Droford 10-12-2017 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5026929)
Valet is sexist term TBF

Well so be it but its true.

Anybody Thrilla 10-12-2017 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 5026955)
Where is Stacy Kiebler?

What did she do to deserve to be in contention? Be hot and the lead Testicle? Yes, she was very, very hot. Offered nothing as a manager.

Destor 10-12-2017 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 5026957)
What did she do to deserve to be in contention? Be hot and the lead Testicle? Yes, she was very, very hot. Offered nothing as a manager.

She was manager in WCW too...

Anybody Thrilla 10-12-2017 01:14 PM

And led who to great success? David Flair?

Anybody Thrilla 10-12-2017 01:15 PM

I'll say this. There's nobody from the round here that she deserves to be on the list over.

Destor 10-12-2017 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 5026963)
I'll say this. There's nobody from the round here that she deserves to be on the list over.

Well I wasnt arguing that...well...maybe Debra

Anybody Thrilla 10-12-2017 01:19 PM

I dunno, I think Debra was good for what she was. They had similar managerial tactics. Debra's clients at least saw a slight modicum of success.

I wasn't arguing that Stacy wasn't a manager, either. I was just saying she doesn't need to be in this competition. Like, at all. Debra's not about to make it past this round either.

Big Vic 10-12-2017 01:22 PM

Debra shtick was annoying each week she stands on the apron to show her "puppies" so Jarret can pick up the W and each week the wrestler falls for it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 5026966)
Debra's not about to make it past this round either.

You don't know that!

Droford 10-12-2017 01:27 PM

2nd set better have
Bill Alphonso
Jim Cornette
Jimmy hart
Paul Bearer
Col Robert Parker
Clarence Mason
Eric Bischoff
Janes Mitchel/Vandenberg
The Genius
Brother Love
Afformentioned Alexandra York as she was one of the few actual Female Managers I can think of

plus valets -
Elizabeth
Missy Hyatt
Lana
Sunny

Big Vic 10-12-2017 01:28 PM

If we're including valets then we should also include Ralphus

Anybody Thrilla 10-12-2017 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5026967)
Debra shtick was annoying each week she stands on the apron to show her "puppies" so Jarret can pick up the W and each week the wrestler falls for it.

You don't know that!

Annoying, yet effective. Plus, pretty cool boobs.

And yes. Yes I do. You think she has better tits than Paul Heyman?

Destor 10-12-2017 01:33 PM

Wait so effective..in a kayfabe sense?


Capt. Lou wins then no contest.

Droford 10-12-2017 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5026970)
If we're including valets then we should also include Ralphus

He should be in the Bodyguards tournament with the likes of Kevin Nash, Mr Hughes (who Jericho also used) Virgil, J&J Security, Harris Bros, Chyna..

Droford 10-12-2017 01:39 PM

This should really be broke down into different tournaments

1- Actual Managers
2- Valets (will include male Valets like MEAT)
3- Bodyguards/Security

Big Vic 10-12-2017 01:43 PM

4- Personal Ring announcers

Destor 10-12-2017 01:49 PM

5-Seconds

Destor 10-12-2017 01:49 PM

6-advocates

Big Vic 10-12-2017 01:54 PM

7- Posse's (The non-"mean street" variety)

Big Vic 10-12-2017 01:55 PM

8- Family members

Destor 10-12-2017 01:59 PM

9-assorted ho's

Anybody Thrilla 10-12-2017 02:20 PM

10- Rosebuds

Big Vic 10-12-2017 02:33 PM

11- Sympathizers in terrorist style garb.

Anybody Thrilla 10-12-2017 02:34 PM

12- Druids

Bad News Gertner 10-12-2017 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5026988)
7- Posse's (The non-"mean street" variety)

Dibiase Posse for life

Big Vic 10-12-2017 02:59 PM

13- Funkadactyls

Bad News Gertner 10-12-2017 03:54 PM

14. The Funkettes

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-12-2017 05:04 PM

FLASHHHH YOU SO FUNKY

#1-norm-fan 10-12-2017 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 5026939)
Some of these have no business being first round matches. Slick is getting hosed.

There's a lot of heavy-hitters in the second half. At a certain point it became impossible just booking squashes.

#1-norm-fan 10-12-2017 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5026975)
This should really be broke down into different tournaments

1- Actual Managers
2- Valets (will include male Valets like MEAT)
3- Bodyguards/Security

IF I JUST MADE EVERY MATCHUP ITS OWN TOURNAMENT, WOULD THAT MAKE YOU HAPPY???

#1-norm-fan 10-12-2017 06:17 PM

On a side note: I actually liked Oscar for what he was.

Funniest option I could think of to job to Heenan though.

Ruien 10-12-2017 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 5026957)
What did she do to deserve to be in contention? Be hot and the lead Testicle? Yes, she was very, very hot. Offered nothing as a manager.

She was legit with the Dudleys.

Ruien 10-12-2017 10:47 PM

But my first comment was more of a joke than serious.

#1-norm-fan 10-12-2017 11:41 PM

Spoiler: Stacy will be in the 2nd half of the qualifying round. GREEN REP IF YOU CAN GUESS HER OPPONENT!


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