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DaveWadding 11-10-2017 01:43 PM

Lucha Underground Season 4 Thread - PREMIERES JUNE 13TH
 
IT'S HAPPENING, BITCHES!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/eczgLhReET">pic.twitter.com/eczgLhReET</a></p>&mdash; Lucha Underground (@LuchaElRey) <a href="https://twitter.com/LuchaElRey/status/929045968187637761?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 10, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DaveWadding 11-10-2017 01:43 PM

WELCOME TO THE TEMPLE!


Here's a few pointers to survive:


These episodes are taped well in advance and no one has seen them. We are almost all experiencing this together. Specific spoilers of past seasons ARE allowed because it's assumed that you've watched the show and it's already out there. Specific spoilers of non-aired content (yes, even in spoiler tags) WILL be reported to the mods and hopefully removed ASAP.

An example might be "Man, just wait until you see the crazy shit Mascarita Sagrada does in Season 4, Episode 15!" would be okay because it's non-specific, but "Dude, Mascarita Sagrada wins the Lucha Underground Championship at Ultima Lucha Cuatro!" would not be because it gives away something in the future that may/may not have been seen by everyone.

LU is taped and these episodes are old, but it is way more enjoyable without it being spoiled for you. Assuming that very few people have seen these episodes, those of us that have need to be respectful of the viewing experience of others and not just throw shit out there without purpose.

Thanks, and I'm looking forward to the best season ever.

Very Pregnant Melissa Santos, TAKE IT AWAY!

Simple Fan 11-10-2017 03:40 PM

Was just working on finishing season 3 last night and got to Ultima Lucha Tres and the DVR only recorded 2 minutes of it.

Emperor Smeat 11-10-2017 08:20 PM

:y: Season 4

Gayfabe 11-11-2017 03:35 AM

Fell off of this during series 3 the wait and the length of series made me lose interest pretty quick. Ultimate Lucha 3 was a good show though.


Hopefully they streamline it a bit and keep the season snappy, max 20 episodes.

Anybody Thrilla 11-14-2017 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWadding (Post 5040439)
WELCOME TO THE TEMPLE!


Here's a few pointers to survive:


These episodes are taped well in advance and no one has seen them. We are almost all experiencing this together. Specific spoilers of past seasons ARE allowed because it's assumed that you've watched the show and it's already out there. Specific spoilers of non-aired content (yes, even in spoiler tags) WILL be reported to the mods and hopefully removed ASAP.

An example might be "Man, just wait until you see the crazy shit Mascarita Sagrada does in Season 4, Episode 15!" would be okay because it's non-specific, but "Dude, Mascarita Sagrada wins the Lucha Underground Championship at Ultima Lucha Cuatro!" would not be because it gives away something in the future that may/may not have been seen by everyone.

LU is taped and these episodes are old, but it is way more enjoyable without it being spoiled for you. Assuming that very few people have seen these episodes, those of us that have need to be respectful of the viewing experience of others and not just throw shit out there without purpose.

Thanks, and I'm looking forward to the best season ever.

Very Pregnant Melissa Santos, TAKE IT AWAY!

Quoting just in case anyone forgot to read it.

I'm ready for season 4.

DaveWadding 11-15-2017 06:25 PM

Eric Van Wagenen (Executive Producer of LU) was on Masks, Mats and Mayhem with all the info on season 4.

Quote:

I'll list a few of the big points but not everything (so that people actually watch the show and give the MMM Show some views):

-Season 4 will be a shorter episode count but still "somewhere in the 20s" (so likely around 28 episodes like Season 2)

-They expect to start taping in February and may tape every weekend, and maybe even some Friday nights, and with that plan to be done taping by the end of March, which help the tighter budget.

-Not 100% sure if they'll get the same location for the Temple, but if not, he's already scouted another location that's "real weird" in LA that he likes a lot, even kind of likes the idea of moving it to change it up.

-He's thinking it'll start airing in late spring/early summer. He mentioned late May -- although said don't hold him to that.

-They're going to loosen up the exclusivity for the wrestlers under contract and let them work more other televised promotions in recognition that they'll only be taping for a couple months. EVW specifically mentioned letting people work ROH and NOAH as examples, and of course Impact which people are already working

-Also mentioned the possibility to have "guest stars" from these other promotions where they could come in for a weekend or two, like the STARDOM women did, and have a condensed story (also mentioned STARDOM as still a possibility for this).

-He thinks that Season 4 is the hard season in terms of making it work with a tighter budget, but if they can make it work, this deal probably works for "Season 5, 6, 7...."

-When asked "Why did you kill Dario?" he said "Is he dead?" and mentioned that we could still hear Dario's heart beating as the episode ended....
H/t to Sravingmad from r/luchaunderground

DaveWadding 12-16-2017 10:42 PM

THERE'S AN OFFICIAL TAPING DATE.

February 16th!

Pentagon and Fenix are in for sure. Good news all around!

DaveWadding 01-21-2018 01:49 AM

Jeff Cobb will be working the next season of Lucha Underground as Matanza Cueto. It’s known he’s been looking to get out so he may be on the list of guys who are coming back to be written out. Obviously Cobb is looking at working more regularly with New Japan, and Impact has shown an interest (although his Lucha Underground contract wouldn’t block him from Impact) and we don’t know about ROH but him going to ROH would seem to make sense.

ALL HAIL KING SMEAT

Anybody Thrilla 01-22-2018 12:08 PM

Nice.

DaveWadding 03-04-2018 03:46 PM

So RoXer and I got tickets for next weekend's tapings..........

DaveWadding 04-06-2018 10:28 PM

Big news update in thread title.

DaveWadding 04-19-2018 02:16 AM

Only 8 weeks until I can talk about this shit with y'all.....

DaveWadding 05-05-2018 07:46 PM

The trailer drops Wednesday. I'm hype. Can't wait to make sense of a bunch of things.

DaveWadding 05-09-2018 02:03 PM


KIRA 05-11-2018 10:53 PM

Did I mention how much I love Lucha Underground don't even have half the budget of impact or the WWE but they make such good use of everything they have even their promos are incredible.
So over-the-top it's impossible to hate I love it. F*** you Jim cornette.

DaveWadding 05-31-2018 01:34 AM

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I realized that I'm IN THIS PIECE OF PROMO MATERIAL. So hype.

DaveWadding 06-10-2018 03:37 AM

WEDNESDAY. SOON IT WILL BE WEDNESDAY.

KIRA 06-10-2018 09:45 PM

Each season of Lucha underground is had kind of a theme I wonder what they'll have this time last season was hardcore
I can't wait till Wednesday I'm so excited.

DaveWadding 06-12-2018 05:27 PM

The summary for this season sounds legit.

"In the aftermath of Dario Cueto's incident, the Lucha Underground Temple moves to a new location. With the help of the mysterious "Order", the bloodthirsty Aztec Gods plan to wage war in Lucha Underground, destroy the world, and sacrifice any luchador that gets in their way. Can the seven ancient Aztec Tribes unite to stop them before it's too late? Only time will tell."

DaveWadding 06-12-2018 05:30 PM

Teaser video (contains season 3 spoilers):

SPOILER: show



Jordan 06-12-2018 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWadding (Post 5120586)

Wow ... looks awesome

DaveWadding 06-13-2018 03:17 PM

Do you guys hear the drums of war?

Season 4 starts with Aztec Warfare :cool:

Droford 06-13-2018 08:20 PM

Lol Tommy Dreamer

Simple Fan 06-13-2018 08:33 PM

Was going to watch this live but I have it DVR'd and this Yankee game is getting good.

DaveWadding 06-13-2018 08:59 PM

So nice, Imma watch this shit twice.

Simple Fan 06-13-2018 10:24 PM

OK games over and the Yankees lost. Ready for some Lucha.

Simple Fan 06-13-2018 10:32 PM

Aztec Warfar, holy shit starting things off with a bang.

Simple Fan 06-13-2018 10:40 PM

Jesse Godderz as Mr Pectacular is pretty a great surprise. Haven't heard much from him since leaving Impact.

Simple Fan 06-13-2018 10:42 PM

Dreamer now, great Star to the season.

Simple Fan 06-13-2018 10:44 PM

Not sure if its the attire change or what but Mariposa looks bigger than usual to me.

Simple Fan 06-13-2018 10:45 PM

Pizza!

Simple Fan 06-13-2018 10:46 PM

Oh man, what a waste of a good pizza.

Simple Fan 06-13-2018 10:47 PM

Damn now Hernandez is back.

Simple Fan 06-13-2018 10:56 PM

Daga is impressive.

Simple Fan 06-13-2018 10:57 PM

Now I thought Chavo was retired.

Simple Fan 06-13-2018 11:00 PM

I like King Cuerno way more than Fantasma for some reason. Weird but I wish he was King Cuerno all the time. The mask is cooler for sure.

Simple Fan 06-13-2018 11:01 PM

Dragon Azteca is the guy that can take Prince Puma's role in my opinion.

Simple Fan 06-13-2018 11:13 PM

Pentagon is the man, great first episode. Aztec Warfar was a great way to introduce alot of the new talent for the season.

DaveWadding 06-14-2018 12:22 AM

Felt like Aztec Warfare was missing some important people. No Cage, Ivelisse, Fox, Angelico. It was a good match though. I liked it more than last year's.

Simple Fan 06-14-2018 12:49 AM

Well they teased Anggelico as #11 but he didn't come out.

Simple Fan 06-14-2018 12:51 AM

Also the blue and yellow ropes are different right? Don't remember the other season's having them. Is there a reason or just to fit the ice house?

DaveWadding 06-14-2018 01:55 AM

Just to fit the ice house theme I think

Anybody Thrilla 06-15-2018 07:31 PM

Is Fox missing part of a story? Or is he not in this season? Seems like he'll show back up and have beef with Son of Havoc.

Anybody Thrilla 06-15-2018 07:31 PM

Which would make for some dope matches.

Jordan 06-15-2018 08:28 PM

Not a bad show.

slik 06-15-2018 11:23 PM

Watching for the first time ever so far so good!

slik 06-15-2018 11:24 PM

So far I like:

Ricky Mundo
Pentagon Dark
Fenix
King Cuerco
Johnny Mundo
Daga

Mil Mascares seems like a loser!!!

slik 06-15-2018 11:26 PM

This Moth dude isn't bad evil

Entrance is 'cool' imo

slik 06-15-2018 11:28 PM

Is Pentagon Dark the Roman Reigns of Lucha Underground???

slik 06-15-2018 11:32 PM

Pizza Guy entrance was <3

slik 06-15-2018 11:39 PM

The man who ate PIZZA during his match is an ICON in my opinion.

slik 06-15-2018 11:41 PM

Dave Wadding is #TRIGGERED

DaveWadding 06-15-2018 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 5134239)
Is Fox missing part of a story? Or is he not in this season? Seems like he'll show back up and have beef with Son of Havoc.

Can I PM you about this?

slik 06-15-2018 11:44 PM

K, going to watch EPISODE 1: The Phantom Lucha on Netflix in a few minutes...according to Twitter I need to start at...the beginning of LU

DaveWadding 06-15-2018 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5134372)
K, going to watch EPISODE 1: The Phantom Lucha on Netflix in a few minutes...according to Twitter I need to start at...the beginning of LU

I'll go find that thread for you

DaveWadding 06-15-2018 11:46 PM

Bumped it

Anybody Thrilla 06-16-2018 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5134364)
This Moth dude isn't bad evil

Entrance is 'cool' imo

Wait until the promos and such.

He followed me on Twitter last year, btw. Because I am a celebrity.

Anybody Thrilla 06-16-2018 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWadding (Post 5134371)
Can I PM you about this?

This is a weird request. If it's going to spoil something, I'd rather you not.

DaveWadding 06-16-2018 12:48 PM

Just going to confirm/deny something about Fox, no storyline bullshit.

Anybody Thrilla 06-16-2018 12:49 PM

Fire away then.

Splaya 06-16-2018 01:58 PM

Good action but I feel underwhelmed. I dunno.

Anybody Thrilla 06-16-2018 02:20 PM

It was just an introductory episode with multiple people in it. I'm sure it'll pick up as quickly as next week.

DaveWadding 06-19-2018 02:22 AM

The real problem with the episode was that they spent 10 solid minutes on the Antonio Cueto stuff, instead of having the match run the whole 45 like it usually does

DaveWadding 06-20-2018 05:02 PM

Pentagod vs. Matanza.

Going to be a fucking hoss fight tonight, gents.

DaveWadding 06-21-2018 04:43 PM

Cuerno is a bad ass. "I dont know where or when..." "I don't give a shit about your life."

Pretty good Trios match, lots of new faces.

Glad I can finally talk about Big, Bad Steve.

Match for the medallion was alright. Feel like both Drago and Azteca were on cruise control a little bit.

Wish Pentagon/Matanza was longer. I could watch those two beat the piss out of each other all day.

Next week should be hype as fuck. I heard from others that it was really good.

Simple Fan 06-21-2018 05:46 PM

Yeah another good episode. Agree on the Pentagon/Matanza match being longer, I wanted more but that finish was pretty amazing. Jake Strong is a good name as well, I like it.

DaveWadding 06-28-2018 02:05 PM

The three way this week was fucking insane. Glad to see Ivelisse and Cage back.

DaveWadding 07-05-2018 05:26 PM

The out of ring segments this week were the highlight for me. Also, Vibora doing things. And always, BIG BAD STEVE.

Simple Fan 07-05-2018 05:30 PM

Vibora is a hell of a talent.

Emperor Smeat 07-05-2018 06:06 PM

Season 4 has been really good so far and even better was someone recently discovered the full version of Mil Muertes theme. Been waiting for this theme to get released ever since the first season.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/4uPlpWu7NV0" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

DaveWadding 07-13-2018 06:39 AM

They done turnt up the heat this week. Cage/Muertes was a freaking hoss battle, Ivie and Joey Ryan had a good match, a couple people died, and The Mack busted out some Lucha Chocolate shit.

Simple Fan 07-13-2018 09:37 AM

Yeah really liked Cage vs Mil Muertes. Didn't know who Killer Kross was a few weeks ago but he's now on Impact and Lucha Underground.

Rollermacka 07-17-2018 02:26 PM

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/4AWtLp7MMeI" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Catching up on season 4, so did they just completely drop the angle after the whole MVP thing (where I assume MVP was gonna be the guy in the limo from the second season that gave the gauntlet to Cage)

DaveWadding 07-18-2018 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rollermacka (Post 5147935)
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/4AWtLp7MMeI" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Catching up on season 4, so did they just completely drop the angle after the whole MVP thing (where I assume MVP was gonna be the guy in the limo from the second season that gave the gauntlet to Cage)



Nah, they have that guy hanging around the Temple, the gauntlet is still around. LU never drops ANYTHING I've learned. But, from what MVP SAYS, they were going to put him under a mask and change his whole wrestling style, so it's hard to say what they cut out or didn't.

Listening to Cornette for 5 minutes made me want to swallow a shotgun though. I wonder if he would have the same complaints about Game of Thrones or Harry Potter or some shit. Because LU is closer to those than it is to WWE or fucking Smoky Mountain or whatever garbage Ol Corny fired out of his asscheeks for a bunch of goddamn rednecks.

Simple Fan 07-18-2018 11:55 PM

Desmond Xavier, this should be interesting. Good high flyer from Impact.

Simple Fan 07-18-2018 11:58 PM

Good debut in Lucha Underground.

KIRA 07-19-2018 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWadding (Post 5148672)
Nah, they have that guy hanging around the Temple, the gauntlet is still around. LU never drops ANYTHING I've learned. But, from what MVP SAYS, they were going to put him under a mask and change his whole wrestling style, so it's hard to say what they cut out or didn't.

Listening to Cornette for 5 minutes made me want to swallow a shotgun though. I wonder if he would have the same complaints about Game of Thrones or Harry Potter or some shit. Because LU is closer to those than it is to WWE or fucking Smoky Mountain or whatever garbage Ol Corny fired out of his asscheeks for a bunch of goddamn rednecks.

Exactly when I first heard him criticize Lucha underground I was like okay I like you cornet but this time you are dead wrong Lucha underground is amazing Lucha underground is exactly what wrestling has always tried to be fully realized it pulls out all the stops it runs with the goofiness and plays it completely straight and it works I don't know what his problem is.

Emperor Smeat 07-19-2018 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 5148687)
Exactly when I first heard him criticize Lucha underground I was like okay I like you cornet but this time you are dead wrong Lucha underground is amazing Lucha underground is exactly what wrestling has always tried to be fully realized it pulls out all the stops it runs with the goofiness and plays it completely straight and it works I don't know what his problem is.

He has a very narrow mindset of what wrestling should be and is very stubborn to adapt it to modern wrestling and styles. Its a major reason why he has the rep of being tough to work or deal with and why even his great ideas came off as being abrasive.

DaveWadding 07-19-2018 04:11 AM

I wonder if he ever complained to Vince about how stupid and unrealistic a zombie undertaker cult leader biker was....

DaveWadding 08-03-2018 04:08 PM

This week's Lucha was pretty good, but last week's was insane. Lots of jumping off high things.

This week was Penta being Penta, to his own detriment. Going alone against 2 main eventers was a dumb choice, but he's not exactly bringing his brother back from the dead, I guess. Indiana Mundo was pretty classic. Too bad about the reptile. He'll be missed after impressing this season.

Simple Fan 08-03-2018 07:19 PM

Yeah was shocked that was how that ended but reptiles are know to grow back limbs as well. Not sure they can grow back a head though.

Emperor Smeat 08-03-2018 08:44 PM

Season has been pretty good so far and really enjoy the creative ways being done to deal with people no longer being in the company.

Could have easily gone the lazy route by just ignoring them or have them simply lose a match as their exit but instead are using the departures in different ways to play into the on-going storylines.

Anybody Thrilla 08-07-2018 12:16 AM

I'm finally all caught up, and I'm in love again. Definitely gonna miss Vibora as soon as I started to like him. Mundo would be weird with the Reptile Tribe, though...who I think are much better this season. I like how Kobra Moon extends the letter "sssssss" when she speaks, and Daga fits well, even though he looks nothing like a reptile.

DaveWadding 08-07-2018 12:19 AM

They should have Big Bad Steve wrestle every week.

Anybody Thrilla 08-07-2018 12:19 AM

Also hyped to see my homie Dez getting some shine. Surreal.

DaveWadding 08-09-2018 05:11 AM

Loved this episode. Loved the classic WWF reference at the end.

Mariposa's breasteses are very nice.

Anybody Thrilla 08-11-2018 03:17 AM

Ya, Mariposa was hot in that episode. Never noticed that before.

Also, Ricky Mundo is delightfully creepy.

DaveWadding 08-11-2018 03:24 AM

Mariposa has a really fucking great match later in the season. I hope they don't kill it with editing

Anybody Thrilla 08-11-2018 03:35 AM

I could use some more Marty the Moth.

DaveWadding 08-17-2018 03:07 AM

Really great episode this week. Great matches, epic vignettes, setting up matches for next week that should (and do) burn the house down. Also, I will be making my debut in the crowd next week. :cool:

Simple Fan 08-22-2018 09:38 PM

Best episode this season. Good to see a real cage match with none of the escape to win bullshit. Main event was just crazy.

DaveWadding 08-24-2018 06:01 AM

I'm pissed that we weren't at the Pentagon/Cage taping. That match was everything I ever wanted.

Anybody Thrilla 08-27-2018 02:50 AM

Damn, that main event was insane. Ricky Mundo is insane. I liked whatever that was happening with Catrina and Melissa Santos. Famous B is hilarious to me, for some reason.

Lucha Underground is the best.

DaveWadding 08-30-2018 04:03 PM

Ricky Mundo is the biggest heel in LU right now.

A.J.K 08-30-2018 05:47 PM

i'm only watching for XO Licious / Sonny Kiss, and Jack Swagger

Emperor Smeat 08-31-2018 02:25 AM

:lol: at Famous B during the ending of the Mundo wedding.

DaveWadding 09-06-2018 01:46 PM

That cutscene at the beginning was the main event of the whole episode. Probably the best one they've EVER done.

I don't think that I put together at the tapings who Joey Wrestling was. I just figured he was some jobber.

Big Bad Steve :'(

Pentagon has a hell of a rogue's gallery this year. Matanza, Cage, the latest challengers... and there's way more to come. I marked out so fucking hard at the end of this one.

Also, this episode is the first one where RoXer and I are in the crowd the whole time (and we ended up being there for the rest of the season), so my thoughts and recaps will probably start getting longer every week.

DaveWadding 09-06-2018 01:55 PM

a thought I forgot to bring up a couple weeks ago:

SPOILER: show
I thought the Haunted House match came off way better on TV than it did live. Part of it could be where we were sitting (we happened to be near Melissa, you can see us in the background of the whole Melissa/Catrina thing). I just feel like I missed a lot of things because of the vantage point, or it could have been that Catrina was walking around in front of me the whole time and I was really distracted. One of the tables was blocking our side of the ring, I think. Also, Muertes is a sick fuck. Using the knife was insane, and then of course the TOP ROPE FLATLINER THROUGH A TABLE and The Mack landed on his goddamn head! The reaction for that was so loud.

Corporate CockSnogger 09-07-2018 06:37 PM

Jack Swagger seems really bad in Lucha Underground. Def seems a lot slower than he was when I last saw him. Maybe it's just in comparison to the speed of everyone else, but he seems like a lumbering idiot.

Everything else is pretty much the best


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