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Ben Rodrigues 07-08-2018 12:32 AM

DC vs Brock Lesnar for the Heavyweight Title
 
Kind of makes WWE seem even more irrelevant.

SlickyTrickyDamon 07-08-2018 12:33 AM

Makes sense. DC had a match against another drugged up cheater. Why Not Brock?

Sepholio 07-08-2018 12:33 AM

Hope Brock smashes DCs brain in.

Ben Rodrigues 07-08-2018 12:37 AM

More excitement in that post fight two minutes than the last five years of WWE.

Ben Rodrigues 07-08-2018 12:38 AM

DC will knock Brock out.

Ben Rodrigues 07-08-2018 12:40 AM

Check out @ufc’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/ufc/status/1015815981086568449?s=09

Sepholio 07-08-2018 01:27 AM

According to Dana White Lesnar did actually enter the testing pool sometime last week, so he would be eligible to fight in December apparently.

Sepholio 07-08-2018 01:29 AM

I guess after tomorrow night we will know who the next Universal champion is.

Ben Rodrigues 07-08-2018 01:42 AM

Excellent! I'll be in Vegas for the December UFC card.

Emperor Smeat 07-08-2018 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5143654)
I guess after tomorrow night we will know who the next Universal champion is.

Nicholas?

He did return to the WWE very recently.

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erickman 07-08-2018 04:11 AM

they need to have strowman show at brocks farm and cash in take the belt on raw Monday.

Maluco 07-08-2018 06:09 AM

It really has. They are doing what WWE used to do. End of their event last night was more compelling than anything WWE do storywise.

It's ridiculous that it has gotten to this stage but , but here we are.

Volare 07-08-2018 08:14 AM

Was coming to see if yall were talking about this or not...looks like idea is the new years eve card.

RP 07-08-2018 09:03 AM

Shocker. WWE Looks even more stupid now.

RP 07-08-2018 09:05 AM

I wonder what the wrestlers backstage feel like. Brock Lesnar hasnt stepped foot in a WWE ring in like 4 months but he can step foot in a UFC octagon to accept a challenge for a fight. That must boost morale.

Simple Fan 07-08-2018 09:14 AM

Don't get how it make WWE looks stupid or irrelevant. This is great, and I hope he is still Universal Champion by the time of the fight. I don't even think DC stands a chance.

Jordan 07-08-2018 09:28 AM

Whoever can get a takedown on the other guy will win. Brock smash or DC Crush.

Ol Dirty Dastard 07-08-2018 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RP (Post 5143723)
I wonder what the wrestlers backstage feel like. Brock Lesnar hasnt stepped foot in a WWE ring in like 4 months but he can step foot in a UFC octagon to accept a challenge for a fight. That must boost morale.

Not really Brock's problem.

Ol Dirty Dastard 07-08-2018 09:37 AM

D.C. will likely overwhelm Brock.

Destor 07-08-2018 09:49 AM

Having the WWE champion fight in the UFC is good for business. Dont know what this thread is supposed to be about but i promise its stupid.

Ol Dirty Dastard 07-08-2018 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5143741)
Having the WWE champion fight in the UFC is good for business. Dont know what this thread is supposed to be about but i promise its stupid.

:yes:

Sepholio 07-08-2018 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5143741)
Having the WWE champion fight in the UFC is good for business. Dont know what this thread is supposed to be about but i promise its stupid.

Accurate.

Stickman 07-08-2018 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erickman (Post 5143675)
they need to have strowman show at brocks farm and cash in take the belt on raw Monday.

That would actually be pretty awesome.

Cool King 07-08-2018 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5143741)
Having the WWE champion fight in the UFC is good for business.

Even more so if Brock wins.

Cool King 07-08-2018 11:32 AM

Which I think he will.

Even though I don't know anything about the other guy and had never heard of him until today.

Destor 07-08-2018 11:37 AM

Smart money is on DC

Evil Vito 07-08-2018 11:53 AM

Brock's a tough bastard but I fully expect DC to roll him

Lock Jaw 07-08-2018 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 5143760)
Brock's a tough bastard but I fully expect DC to roll him

And then Braun Strowman shows up with a WWE referee and the briefcase to cash in!

erickman 07-08-2018 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5143770)
And then Braun Strowman shows up with a WWE referee and the briefcase to cash in!

that would be epic

Jordan 07-08-2018 02:36 PM

You can’t count Brock out... ever. He’s just too big and strong for that not to be a viable variable in a fight. I will say that due to the height difference and since Brock is a weak standup striker that DC could scoop a takedown and if he does he could finish him just like Carwin did, imagine that he got him with a choke though... I would love that.

Ben Rodrigues 07-08-2018 02:54 PM

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Damian Rey 2.0 07-08-2018 03:13 PM

God, that knee to the ribs is fucking brutal

LibSuperstar 07-08-2018 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0
God, that knee to the ribs is fucking brutal

How he didn't double over immediately I don't know.

xrodmuc316 07-08-2018 05:50 PM

DC is a better fighter, but he faces the same issue against Brock as everybody. Brock is stronger, and his wrestling mat skills make it hard to take him down.

Brock is also a tough S.O.B. He can absorb some monster shots without getting knocked out. Opposite of a glass jaw on that guy.

Add that DC is fighting up a weight class, if Lesnar gets a takedown DC doesn't escape, just has to try and survive.

To beat Brock you have to catch him with a few big shots in a row. DC is certainly capable of that, it's just a matter of doing it without getting taken down.

Ol Dirty Dastard 07-08-2018 05:55 PM

I would say 95% chance of D.C. winning.

xrodmuc316 07-08-2018 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5143796)
You can’t count Brock out... ever. He’s just too big and strong for that not to be a viable variable in a fight. I will say that due to the height difference and since Brock is a weak standup striker that DC could scoop a takedown and if he does he could finish him just like Carwin did, imagine that he got him with a choke though... I would love that.

Carwin didn't finish Brock though. He whooped his ass in the first round but couldn't finish it. After the first round was over and Carwin didn't finish it, he was blown up almost as bad as Punk was.

Brock took him right down in the 2nd round and tapped Carwin out with an arm triangle choke.

Ol Dirty Dastard 07-08-2018 05:58 PM

Carwin is about 1/100th of the fighter that D.C. is. And that's being generous.

RP 07-08-2018 06:08 PM

100% DC wins. Lesnar is just collecting another big paycheck. Nothing to see.

xrodmuc316 07-08-2018 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RP (Post 5143875)
100% DC wins. Lesnar is just collecting another big paycheck. Nothing to see.

I'm not quite that sure, for the reasons I said above, I think it's more like 95% that DC wins. Lesnar is too big, strong, and fast to say he has no chance though.

Ol Dirty Dastard 07-08-2018 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RP (Post 5143875)
100% DC wins. Lesnar is just collecting another big paycheck. Nothing to see.

5% chance of freak injuries or Brock landing a donkey kong punch is what I was accounting for. If it plays out like a regular fight, and D.C. is even at 45-50% capacity, he takes the fight.

Ezra 07-08-2018 07:11 PM

Brock rapes DC in the ring is the only outcome i see.

Ol Dirty Dastard 07-08-2018 07:32 PM

??? how?

Lock Jaw 07-08-2018 07:35 PM

With his penis sword

Emperor Smeat 07-08-2018 07:47 PM

Baring a lucky punch, best I can see for Lesnar is him going the distance and pulling off a win via judge's decision. What really hurts Lesnar is the length since his last fight and Cormier competing in 4 fights with 3 wins during that time.

Lesnar's last fight went to a decision but also had the roids controversy surrounding his win.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RP (Post 5143723)
I wonder what the wrestlers backstage feel like. Brock Lesnar hasnt stepped foot in a WWE ring in like 4 months but he can step foot in a UFC octagon to accept a challenge for a fight. That must boost morale.

If anything, they should be more upset at Vince since he caused the mess with the Universal title to happen from his constant flip-flopping of plans.

Wouldn't be surprised if some actually did feel petty because of their egos like Cena with Rock in films or Graves with Punk in MMA of Lesnar getting big opportunities outside of wrestling.

Savio 07-08-2018 07:50 PM

I didn't see the fight last night but I could see brock winning by decision.

slik 07-08-2018 07:52 PM

This seems dumb.

Savio 07-08-2018 07:52 PM

For who?

Sepholio 07-08-2018 07:53 PM

Yeah, I'm feeling Brock has more like a 33% chance to win, at the least. I don't know how many of you watched the event last night but DC appeared to get very lucky. The shot that sent Miocic down wouldn't make Brock flinch. I honestly don't know how it put him down, I mean it landed flush but DCs arm was completely bent and he was swinging from an awkward angle with no extension.

Before that moment DC was for the most part getting popped over and over again. He landed some shots too, mind you. But the biggest tell was that Miocic, who has very little if any ground game, avoided the takedown attempt from DC and turned the tables and took DC down instead and even had his back for a split second and seemed like he didn't know what to do. Lesnar would have known that spot and would have choked DC out QUICKLY.

Also DC looked really flabby and seemed like he was already in the early stages of getting gassed. Not good in a 5 round fight. Although Brock blows up easy too, so that's probably a wash there.

Savio 07-08-2018 07:53 PM

Seems financially great for all parties.

Savio 07-08-2018 07:54 PM

Wish Brock/Jones fought in Dec, winner gets DC.

slik 07-08-2018 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savio (Post 5143928)
For who?

Everyone....UFC running out of dream matches, desperately needing Brock to 'save them...AGAIN'....

everyone will make $$$ and then UFC will go back being decrepit as it fades slowly away...

Sepholio 07-08-2018 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savio (Post 5143931)
Wish Brock/Jones fought in Dec, winner gets DC.

I agree 100% but I think Jones is still banned for another 72 years or so.

Mr. Nerfect 07-09-2018 02:09 AM

Brock Lesnar always seems like a bigger deal in UFC than WWE.

Big Vic 07-09-2018 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DC
"Brock decided to step in the octagon with me," Cormier said. "He's a pro wrestler. He does fake fighting. So I'll do fake fighting with you until I put my fists upside your face."

:|

Ol Dirty Dastard 07-09-2018 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5143929)
Yeah, I'm feeling Brock has more like a 33% chance to win, at the least. I don't know how many of you watched the event last night but DC appeared to get very lucky. The shot that sent Miocic down wouldn't make Brock flinch. I honestly don't know how it put him down, I mean it landed flush but DCs arm was completely bent and he was swinging from an awkward angle with no extension.

Before that moment DC was for the most part getting popped over and over again. He landed some shots too, mind you. But the biggest tell was that Miocic, who has very little if any ground game, avoided the takedown attempt from DC and turned the tables and took DC down instead and even had his back for a split second and seemed like he didn't know what to do. Lesnar would have known that spot and would have choked DC out QUICKLY.

Also DC looked really flabby and seemed like he was already in the early stages of getting gassed. Not good in a 5 round fight. Although Brock blows up easy too, so that's probably a wash there.

Stipe has a strong wrestling pedigree and is an elite striker. And you'll find many of the all time great fighters have been "losing fights" until they weren't.

I don't even like Cormier but I've seen Brock against other wrestlers, and the results aren't pretty.

Jordan 07-09-2018 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5143869)
Carwin didn't finish Brock though. He whooped his ass in the first round but couldn't finish it. After the first round was over and Carwin didn't finish it, he was blown up almost as bad as Punk was.

Brock took him right down in the 2nd round and tapped Carwin out with an arm triangle choke.

Ah, I had in my head that Carwin finished him on the ground. Bad memory.

RP 07-09-2018 11:29 AM

UFC is pretty fixed. If you think Dana White wants Lesnar to win and then go back to the WWE, you're nuts. The best case scenario is Crom winning. And Lesnar collects a huge pay day. It's not like Brock is protecting a major legacy in UFC. This is a money grab on both ends. And the people who lose are the ones that buy this PPV.

I'm not saying it's completely fixed, but when it gets this big and they start running promo's in octagon out there. It's fixed. The only way everyone wins, is if Lesnar loses. And he's going to get a monster payday for it. I guarantee you he gets at least 5 million for this fight. I promise you that.

xrodmuc316 07-09-2018 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RP (Post 5144128)
UFC is pretty fixed. If you think Dana White wants Lesnar to win and then go back to the WWE, you're nuts. The best case scenario is Crom winning. And Lesnar collects a huge pay day. It's not like Brock is protecting a major legacy in UFC. This is a money grab on both ends. And the people who lose are the ones that buy this PPV.

I'm not saying it's completely fixed, but when it gets this big and they start running promo's in octagon out there. It's fixed. The only way everyone wins, is if Lesnar loses. And he's going to get a monster payday for it. I guarantee you he gets at least 5 million for this fight. I promise you that.

Oh for sure, and so was that setup with Brock and DC after the bout. That was an angle 100%. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we found out they had Heyman write that angle lol.

I do not follow MMA much, more of a casual fan, but Lesnar has to be in UFC's top 3 of biggest draws in their history. Basing on the buzz created, probably only McGregor and Rousey are bigger draws.

Even Randy Coutore and Chuck Liddell had their best runs before UFC got wildly popular. Same for guys like Rampage Jackson and Tito Ortiz.

Big Vic 07-09-2018 12:13 PM

Lesnar is only behind McGregor

Destor 07-09-2018 12:37 PM

i buyrates? I believe that

Destor 07-09-2018 12:38 PM

I looked the numbers up. Very legit

xrodmuc316 07-09-2018 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5144134)
Lesnar is only behind McGregor

Yeah, I wasn't sure about Ronda drawing more than Lesnar, just because Brock had less fights.

Regardless, Lesnar going for the title again is going to make a boatload of money for everybody involved.

Ol Dirty Dastard 07-09-2018 05:12 PM

MMA Fans so triggered. It's great.

Damian Rey 2.0 07-09-2018 06:08 PM

They're triggered but they're still gonna pay lots of money to watch Brock fight

Mr. Nerfect 07-09-2018 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5144237)
MMA Fans so triggered. It's great.

These are the exact same people who refuse to watch wrestling because they won't fall for fake shit.

xrodmuc316 07-09-2018 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5144262)
These are the exact same people who refuse to watch wrestling because they won't fall for fake shit.

Lol 100% correct

Bad News Gertner 07-10-2018 07:53 AM

Braun should sit ringside with his MITB briefcase and cash it in when Lesnar gets knocked out

Big Vic 07-10-2018 07:55 AM

^Yes lol

Ol Dirty Dastard 07-10-2018 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5144262)
These are the exact same people who refuse to watch wrestling because they won't fall for fake shit.

Yep. I fucking love it. It's why I hope (against all odds) Brock smashes D.C.

Then gets popped for PEDs again :lol:

Jordan 07-10-2018 08:01 AM

I am irritated with those who bash this “angle” so fn what? Every major promotion of a fight is an angle... you have to sell the show. Doesn’t mean the fight is a work.

Ol Dirty Dastard 07-10-2018 08:17 AM

MMA fans are a very insecure, naive bunch. Brock Lesnar is like their Roman Reigns/John Cena.

Jordan 07-10-2018 10:06 AM

And somehow the card will draw nearly a million buys. I feel confident in that.

terryna 07-10-2018 01:48 PM

1000% DC winhttp://gshort.click/isna/12/o.png

Mr. Nerfect 07-11-2018 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5144591)
Yep. I fucking love it. It's why I hope (against all odds) Brock smashes D.C.

Then gets popped for PEDs again :lol:

Me too. :y:


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