CM Punk Gimme A Hell Yeah
 

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At least hes losing unlike the part timers he cried about.

Man he can't fight for nothing.

He is incredibly unathletic, but anyone who remembered his elbow drop will know that!

Probably the reason he got so banged up with WWE too, he just doesn't have the athleticism needed to be an athlete at the top level. Should wrestle a few times a year at big events and just save his body.

This will go down as the worst UFC fights of all time (in comparison to standard of era). He left depressed, but was really bitter and cruel to many people on his way out. Don't really feel bad for him as he should never have been on the card in the first place and has caused a lot of resentment among UFC fights now too.

He should fight Butterbean. That would be comedy gold.

Lol he's done. RIP all his credibility

Fight looked like an armature fight

Jackson is awful ftr

I respect Punk for trying, but it's clearly just not for him. Three years of training and still miles and miles away from being even remotely decent.

Time to give it up and move on.

Yeah as I said, Mike Jackson is horrific.

Wrestling fans are very forgiving though and while his cred as a badass is dead with us (tbf it was always dead with us, dude has never been much of an athlete) if he wanted to come back he'd be welcome with open arms.

Despite his adamant "I am done with professional wrestling" approach, I'm still gonna keep hope alive for an All In appearance. I mean he's doing a signing the day before at Pro Wrestling Tees and he'd be guaranteed a massive ovation. So my hope is he does that and maybe realizes going back to ROH and/or NJPW where he won't need to work a crazy ass WWE schedule ain't the worst idea.

Hoping he starts training for his life long goal of being a rugby player next.

I hope he tries MMA again and gets his ass kicked, again. Bellator might give him a shot now. Have no desire to see the guy wrestle either.

In related news: Mike Jackson got signed to a WWE Developmental contract.

Doesn’t he still have 1 fight left on his UFC deal? :roll: He needs to come back to wrestling for just one more match to end his career on a positive note, make a fuckton of money, and the. Pursue comic books or the gazillion other things he is interested in.

At least he put up a fight this time.

he's still made quite a bit of money to get his ass kicked.

If he wants to keep fighting, he needs to be away from ufc, maybe an amateur fight

I don't think that is how other fighters and MMA fans would see it. He has been training for over two years now, shown so little improvement, was fighting against another amateur, who, in the face of it, wasn't even close to being bothered by his terrible offence.

This fight, for all intents and purposes, was way more embarrassing than the first one, given the standard of opponent, the time he has spent training and how awful he looked. Not to mention the fact that there was proper backlash and resentment that he was on the main card.

It has been a really embarrassing venture for him and he should really pack it in completely. If he doesn't, he is being extremely foolish, not to mention dangerous. He took a lot of clean shots last night.

It wasn’t even the fact that he got his ass beat. It was the fact that from the time the bell rang in round 1 to the conclusion of the fight , you never sat there and thought “wow he has a chance to win this fight”. Especially against someone as terrible as Jackson.

The trial is over. Punk aint long for this game. But he certainly has a tough chin. I'll give him that. He took shots. Kept going. I'm impressed from that aspect. But this venture into MMA is over.

Outside of Punk himself, did anyone realistically expect Punk to actually be successful in UFC?

I forgot this fight was even happening because of how little I expected of Punk in UFC, even if he had won this fight.

Outside of the initial interest he brought in from being in WWE, it wasn't likely he was ever going to amount to anything meaningful in UFC in terms of winning big fights or titles, given the competition.

Somebody tweet punk that backyard mma that gets posted here on occassion. He can start there.

Streetbeefs. Punk vs bipolar bobby

How about ballet?

Motherfucker would look rad in a tutu.

He didnt. Did you watch the fight? Thankfully or fought someone who is over the hill anf unskilled or he would have died

And ftr i dont respect people just for trying

Mighty mouse would legit fuck him up and im not even joking

Yeah Michael Jackson is fucking atrocious. Dana White is firing him for his performance against Punk.

The whole thing was dumb but not dumb for Punk because he went 0-2 and made a million dollars. And if he wants, he can go back to wrestling no matter how many people act like his cred is dead.

I don't really get this argument either. He has got a contract based on his celebrity, not visibly improved in 3 years. Lost twice, in embarrassing fashion and I guess he is some sort of hero?

It was arrogant to even attempt to fight in the UFC and honestly, I don't think he deserves much credit.

I don't think he thought he could win tbh. I think he's friends with Dana and Dana saw a couple of buyrates out of it.

He says he is done with wrestling- I believe him. He seems like the kind of person that would never do what anyone wants him to do. He will go the other way on principle.

I can't see him holding a WWE championship after these high profile losses. He has the stench of failure on him. Would Vince want a champion that has been proven not to be able to fight in the real world?

I don't understand internet fans.

They "hate" Vince and the WWE. Always talk about guys "standing up" to him. Yet, someone like Punk (or Bret) does, and they spend every waking moment afterwards disparaging them from that point forward.

Punk isn't perfect, but I don't get the rampant hate.

He did alright, but it's cause Jackson had zero finishing skills, or if he did he choose to play it safe and run out the clock.

Granted Punk did alright, far better than against a real fighter like Gall, but regardless dude didn't get knocked our or tapped out. Losing by decision is far better than the above ways.

Regardless of everything else, he can at least say he competed this time, vs just showing up and getting destroyed in 2 minutes with zero offense.

All that being said, he clearly isn't athletic enough to make up for having no skill. I guess if Bellator wants to throw a payday at him, I wouldn't fault him for taking one more beating, and yes he would lose again.

He should just stick to writing comic books going forward, cause it's the only thing he is good at, other than that one thing where he made $Millions, met his wife, and actually was respected. He hated it SOOOOOO much though, poor guy.

Also, he is about to be 40, isn't he too old to still act like a punk rock teenager? Always talking about being an outcast in school, that was 22 years ago Phil.

I don't believe any of the bull he spews about chasing his dream. He said the same crap when it fit his narrative of wanting to make WWE Better and he loves the place.

Dude is full of it, just playing up a story to fit his ego.

I dont hate vince or the wwe. I hate hypocrites tho. Anf punk def is that.

Bitches about part timers and celebrities taking his spot for half a decade then goes to UFC and fights on the main card @0-1 vs 0-1 while mark hunt is on the undercard.

Fuck that guy

@xrod

No he did not do alright. He fought a bum and looked substantially worse than the bum. The fight is a black mark on the UFC as a whole an no one came out of it looking "alright."

Mark Hunt didn't fight last night. (Maybe he did on the last card)

I really want CM Punk to continue.

Become the UFC's punching bag.

I do enjoy watching him get beat up.

Dana literally is firing Mike Jackson after the fight lmfao

Meant overeem. Watching e3 and my brain is distracted

With as little Vince actually cares about kayfabe and the prestige of the titles anymore, I don't think Vince would let that prevent Punk from holding any WWE championship.

If it makes him $ or makes his company look popular or good, he will do it.

The big question is, would Vince hold it against Punk for Punk's previous actions and statements about his company, employees and family?

Or even more likely, when Vince dies and/or cannot run WWE anymore, would HHH/Steph hold Punk's previous statements and actions against Punk?

I could see Vince letting those things go probably. HHH & Stephanie, not so much.

Become the new tank abott but without the potential to win :lol:

I'm sure at no point in your life have you done anything hypocritical. I'll grant you, I believe ALL WWE stars who bitch about the part-timers are a bunch of crybabies, but it was only one of the problems Punk had with the company - one of which I disagreed with wholeheartedly. Punk ain't main eventing any card with Rock and Cena on it. You think if he was actually happy with the way he was treated by the company that even would have been as much of a point of contention for him? There was a litany of other things that had rattled his cage and "being a hypocrite" just happens when emotions run high. Using it as a "whatabotism" is just some dumb shit people think to justify disliking someone. That was one gripe that was stupid amidst 15 others I totally sympathized with.

He was wrong about the mania stuff, and he was right to take the payday from Dana, cuz why the fuck not? I would have. $1 million to get your ass kicked twice? Sounds okay to me.

He's hypocrite. Fuck him. Its my no.1 pet peeve in life. Stand by your words or youre worthless to me.

If I was already a millionaire, had some integrity and cared about my reputation and could still wrestle some big matches 2-3 times a year across the next 4-5 years and make big money doing it?

No, I wouldn't go to another sport I am terrible at, position myself at the table with the best in the world, putting some of them on the undercard in the process and make a laughing stock of myself.

Money isn't everything, and in his case, it wasn't the only way he could have gotten it.

Laughing stock AND a liar. 2 for 1

So if I say something to you one day and I am steadfastly ALL ABOUT IT but then my world view changes over time, I have to stick to it because I felt that way once? That doesn't offer much room for personal growth.

Is this legit? If so, LOL.

There's a distinct difference between that and hypocrisy and i know youre smart enough to not need that explained to you

I do find it particularly cringe that his initial gimmick in the WWE was as some Muay Thai specialist LOL FFS

If punk went on record saying he was wrong about his outrage and he didnt deserve a spot over them id forgive him. His song wont change though.

Holy shit Vince is a genius. This is clearly a long con by Vince to discredit the ufc. He sent punk out to infiltrate years ago by pretending punk walked out of the wwe. Not only that but set up a fake lawsuit to really drive home the fact punk and wwe hate each other. Dana, always looking to show up Vince welcomes Mr. Brooks. Punk "trains" for his matches and puts on shit shows so that fans and shareholders begin to question dana's ability to run the organization. Enter Vince who under the guise of the xfl takes out 100 million to secretly buy 51% of ufc under everyone's noses. Vince fires Dana and turns ufc into ufc PG. This gives Brock no where to go so he remains universal champ until hhh and steph's oldest comes of age to defeat him. UFC blossoms under the PG era and cm punk fulfills his dream of winning the ufc title in all the divisions. Wrestlemania 50 features punk vs Brock in a who gets power of attorney over Paul heyman. Fucking brilliant.

Too bad he didnt work the clinch :lol:

There is a shoot story told about him fighting some indy worker outside a fast food restaurant, thinking he was the tough lad . It might have been teddy hart. And he got beat up then.

Think a little bit of him always felt he was a tough guy.

But again... maybe if you ask Punk now about the mania main event he has a different feeling on it? Emotions were running high at the time and much like any messy break up, people take issue with asinine things they'd take less personally with clearer heads. You're getting really stuck on one contentious issue (because you HATE hypocrites) and not looking at the whole deal.

He's a moody cuss, which is kind of a problem. And it's not like he'll ever talk about it again, so we'll never know.

Its his words. If he doesnt change them then he's a hypocrite. Thats how that works.

Punk is "tough" in that he can take a bit of a shit kicking but lacks any athleticism and brute strength to really dole anything of note out.

I'm sure he can beat up your average dad bod nowadays given he's spent 3 fucking years training with professional fighters, but not anyone with anything close to professional experience.

Even Batista was awful in his only MMA outing. He got the win but realized fast it wasn't for him.

I mean realistically he doesn't owe any of us an explanation. Not that you owe him anything yourself (since you don't know him or care about him). But I find you being so highly principled about this kind of farcical. If you can't understand the he-said she-said nonsense of a bad business relationship then I dunno what to tell you.

Punks hand eye is a huge problem.
He has no awareness of where his body is. If that doesnt come natural its almost impossible to teach

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Good for him. One of the greatest WWE performers of all time who had a chance to do something he really wanted to do. Is he an Anderson Silva or Jon Jones? Absolutely not. But good on him for trying.

He nailed it when he said that there are people out there that thrive off seeing other people fail. Shame.

This isnt a business issue. This is a principle issue. Punk didnt think it was bad business to main the rock he presented a moral argument. One he didnt stand by. He is a hypocrite and deserves no respect from anyone

Yeah... like if you compare him to Danielson (for instance) it's like two different species. I watched Bryan train with Sheamus and his coordination and understanding of his own body is fucking ridiculous. I'm honestly just laughing at the idea of Punk trying to keep up with Bryan in a work out.

I think it's pretty clear CM Punk needs to re-evaluate his life decisions and go back to what he's good at.

Before he hangs it up for good, I hope he can win a few more court cases once he graduates from law school.

Fair enough. He's kind of killing me here because it's not like he'll field any questions on the matter but i'd like to hear him discuss the difference of the Rock main eventing mania versus him taking a spot on a UFC card.

But fuck you regardless. ;)

Agreed. Danielson moves very intelligently.
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id love to say otherwise but the diff takes him admitting his faults. Thats what growth is. Until he does im incapable of respecting him. Its in my bones.

Good worker though. Better talker. Worse fighter.

And I also 100% agree with you that there is literally ZERO difference in the two scenarios. Promoters saw a chance to make money and they took it. Really quite simple. I've always been annoyed by the full-timers complaining about the part-timers. There's a different convo to be had on why the full-timers can't draw for shit, but it's not the part-timers' faults.

Id support any wrestler wanting to go part time anywhere they thought it would make them money. And i aupport new york using part timers to get paid. No issues there. Get paid.

I am not arguing that point at all. No, it shouldn't have been a UFC fight, that's not my point. He did alright, not good, just alright, against a guy who himself isn't good.

No, it is not UFC level of skill, yes this is the kind of fight that should take place in a regional MMA card, but take all outside factors and considerations away, just CM Punk vs Mike Jackson, he did alright. He lost, he should not be considered a skilled fighter in any way. I am only saying that he showed was good enough to compete against Mike Jackson, even if he lost, he at least competed this time.

Last time he just got beat up, it wasn't a fight, this time he was in a fight. He landed punches and kicks, he got a takedown, he even attempted a few submission moves, poorly attempted sure, but Jackson had to defend against them.

Lol Punk to UFC is the new Russo to WCW

this went 3 rounds but it wasnt a fight. He was slaughtered. Im dumb founded that the score card went 30-27. I had it at 30-25

No way you can sell me on round 3 being a 10-9 round

Going the distance is an insult to jackson not a credit to punk.

Headline says it all:

Dana White Unhappy With 'Complete Idiot' Mike Jackson For Actions During UFC 225 Fight Vs. CM Punk


https://www.forbes.com/sites/trentre...ht-vs-cm-punk/

All cards were 30-26 I believe.

Unanimously 30-27

Yes that is my point. Punk did alright against an untalented "idiot". If this bout was in front of 200 people for some random small time MMA Promotion, I would say the same thing.

Just because it happened on a UFC PPV doesn't change that point. Everything else beyond that point, I agree with what you are saying.

"The former WWE star, whose birth name is Phil Brooks, suffered a relatively one-sided decision loss to Mike Jackson at UFC 225 on Saturday night at the United Center. All three judges scored it a shutout for Jackson, 30-26."

http://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/2...cision-ufc-225

I mean if we were talking about a fight in a hotel ballroom id see your point but we're talking about something that happened last night on pay per view

i must have been way more drunk than i thought i was

When destor get shit faced, he confuses a digit here or there. He's a really fun guy to be around.

I remember shouting at my tv that the decision what shit because #drunkmath

:lol:

After watching the fight, can see why White is pissed since Jackson's antics made it seem like the fight was fixed in terms of going the distance.

With Punk's first fight, his biggest mistake was having no Plan B when his first punch missed but with this fight, I'd blame his camp more since it became obvious Punk really lacks the skills needed to even beat no namers or "cans." An amateur fight before this one would have been very beneficial in terms of experience and as a gauge if it was even wise to do a 2nd UFC fight.

You just woke up in the morning thinking Mike Jackson won a split decision 29-28, 29-28, 28-29

This is what happens when your regiment consists of smack-talking and Pepsi.

Lol correct and now you get what I was saying. Was it disgraceful to UFC and PPV, yes. That's why I said all things removed. Just cause the dude throwing at the first pitch at a baseball game is clearly not good enough to be a Major League Pitcher, if they at least have a decent throw you can say they did Alright.

This fight would be CM Punk threw it straight and it bounced to the catcher.

Much better than his last fight, which is more like...

Lol no i thought the scored it 30-27 which would mean that last round was not a 10-8 round which was offensive to my drunk past self. I have the 2nd and 3rd @10-8 but i could see a 10-9 for the 3rd but that last round was way too embarrassing to be ANYTHING but 10-8 or even 10-7. It was REAL bad. He was gassed and ridden like a mule.

30-26 is appropriate for exactly how lop sided that was. 30-25 would have been fair too.

lol I know I was exaggerating, sir.

How much do you wanna bet that Jackson gets signed to WWE?

Lol, I take it Punk got smashed?

The thing is, I don't like the idea of him coming back as some ace wrestler after he's been so widely exposed as a dude who doesn't know what he's doing. A commentator? Maybe. But you still have to talk about how that guy was the best WWE Champion they've had in ages, yadda, yadda.

I don't know. I don't know what to do.

Bam Bam Bigelow got smashed by Kimo Leopoldo

they say it was a work but it looked like a shoot to me.

Bam Bam was probably mostly used up at that point anyway, wasn't he?

CM Punks first round in this fight wasn't bad.

He still had his run in ECW and WCW afterward. I think it'd be different if Punk got wasted by some bum in a bar but he got beaten by a professional (albeit low tier) fighter.

Remember, Shawn Michaels got the shit kicked out of him in Syracuse and while they try big it up and say it was 8,000 marines who jumped him, there's another side of the story that he got cold cocked by one dude he pissed off. Fact is, he got beaten up by non-wrestlers and he was still pushed to the moon.

He wasnt beaten by a pro though. Thats the thing. guy was 40 and 0-1. Thats not a pro. thats an amateur who was brought in to do a job.

He lost a fight to a job guy. And he lost 30-26 in one of the ugliest fights ever.

This is literally some bum they found in a gym.