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Tom Guycott 12-19-2015 05:15 PM
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Anybody elses showing marred by young-lings that wouldn't shut up?
Nope. Was at a special, magical place with a super comfortable balcony and popcorn/drink refills. And 3D glasses that didn't muddle with vision (though there wasn't much worthwhile 3d in the film)

Tom Guycott 12-19-2015 05:49 PM
You know, I would be interested even in an animated film of
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the ownership history of the Millennium Falcon; from off the lot, to Han Solo "stealing it back" from a quite a list of theives in this one. I mean, even when it is first broached, Han won it from Lando in a card game, but it's never stated that Lando is the original owner. A timeline of events from the "point of view" of the ship seems like a story in and of itself.
Has little to do with the main story, but seems like it would be fun, not to mention a neat way to begin to help re-expand the universe after the massive "none of this stuff ever happened" retcon.

road doggy dogg 12-19-2015 05:59 PM
Whenever talking about the Falcon, it makes me really really really want to play the TIE Fighter PC game. Has there been another game in the 'series' since X-Wing Alliance?

Savio 12-19-2015 08:14 PM
I thought the movie was ok, seemed too much like 'a new hope'. I didn't dislike it though, it was better than episodes 1-3 for sure.

I hope luke says he left because he was tempted by the darkside, Yoda said (in ep 5) if he left training then he would SURELY go to the darkside and we didn't see much hint of that in ep 6.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-19-2015 08:37 PM
We saw the hint of it in the battle where he went to town on Vader and cut off his hand. He was pissssssed.

Wishbone 12-19-2015 09:11 PM
Luke switching to wearing black in Return of the Jedi and being far more aggressive in his dealings also sorta points to some kind of dark side shift. After all Jedi rarely if ever wear black (the only real exception I can think of in the movies and shows proper is Anakin who turned to the dark side), and Jedi don't just go around making threats and boasting about their power the way Luke did at Jabba's palace.

Savio 12-20-2015 12:40 AM
hmm It's been awhile since I saw episode 6, was my least fav of the original trilogy. I only remember him acting aggressive with vader but I do remember him wearing black throughout the whole movie.

Savio 12-20-2015 12:47 AM
I also think that 'Metal' storm trooper was unnecessary, seems like just another thing to sell more toys.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-20-2015 12:57 AM
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I also think that 'Metal' storm trooper was unnecessary, seems like just another thing to sell more toys.
Yeah she was pretty much a non-factor in the movie. I was disappointed Lady Brianne of Tarth didn't see battle.

Tom Guycott 12-20-2015 01:28 AM
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I also think that 'Metal' storm trooper was unnecessary, seems like just another thing to sell more toys.
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Yeah she was pretty much a non-factor in the movie. I was disappointed Lady Brianne of Tarth didn't see battle.
Yeah, she may go the way of Boba Fett, but I doubt it. They can't have everyone do something "awesome" all in the first movie. Pretty sure there's a reason why she's their general that we'll see in a later movie. They do have two more of those things to fill.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-20-2015 01:40 AM
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Great flick...

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Loved Rey, and there is still so much to her and her character and backstory for future episodes.

I am kind of craving backstory for everything now. I want to know how exactly things got as they are. What did Finn go through all of his life? Who is Rey? Why exactly did there NEED to be a resistance? It was clear that there was a New Republic, but why didn't they oppose the First Order openly? What was the situation that there needed to be a "resistance"? I guess we won't really get into the boring politics stuff in this trilogy because OH SHIT THEY JUST BLEW UP CORUSCANT. But still, wouldn't mind knowing the backstory on the boring political stuff.

I almost WANT them to just say F it and recast Han/Luke/Leia and make some movies set between 6 and 7 to explain how we got to where we are. I will also just accept some books/comic books, I guess.

My one thing that "bugged me" about the movie was Chewbacca walking right past Leia after returning from Han dying.... DAMN CHEWIE, that's cold!
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That wasn't Coruscant though. It just was a planet that looked like it. Hosnian Prime.


Fignuts 12-20-2015 02:54 AM
Phasma has been confirmed for episode 8, so hopefully she gets more time to shine.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-20-2015 03:24 AM
Anybody surprised at how pussy the New Republic looked? Seemed like they wasted 30 years doing jack shit if the First Order could whip their ass. From a Republic to a "Resistance?" Or is it just a group fighting the First Order as an off shoot of the New Republic to make it a fair fight?

Sixx 12-20-2015 09:58 AM
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit...news/?a=129146

Even if you're not familiar with the name, you'll know James Arnold Taylor's voice from his role as Obi-Wan Kenobi in The Clone Wars animated series. He and a number of other voice actors familiar with the Star Wars Universe (including Sam Witwer and Catherine Taber) provided vocals for Star Wars: The Force Awakens, but it turns out that Taylor's line as Obi-Wan was replaced when J.J. Abrams brought in the real deal; Ewan McGregor! That's right, the actor from the Star Wars prequels was the one who says "Rey" during the vision she has after touching Luke's lightsaber

Fignuts 12-20-2015 10:04 AM
The resistance is separate from the republic.Like I said, one of the minor flaws is that they never explain why it's seemingly just the resistance fighting the First Order.

Maybe The Republic just didn't take the First Ordet setiously, the saame way the empire underestimated the rebels in the first movies.

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Anyway, now that the First Order has destroyed the senate, I'm sure we'll see the Republic in subsequent films, though if I had to guess, it will be a situation where they are against the First Order but not on the side of the heroes either. Borsk Feyla situation like the EU.

Lock Jaw 12-20-2015 12:03 PM
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One of the "best" speculation/analogy I read was that the New Republic didn't want open war with the First Order, so Leia goes and forms the Resistance.... but the New Republic gives them weapons and equipment. Much like the USA would give weapons to "resistance" fighters in various countries they didn't want to have open war with but would like it if someone else was in charge of.

So then the First Order, despite their main combative enemies being the Resistance, are sour at the New Republic and blow them up.

Sixx 12-20-2015 01:21 PM
so resistance is talibs!

McLegend 12-20-2015 01:28 PM
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Are we sure it was Coruscant that was destroyed? I mean yeah it looked exactly like it, but why it was never mentioned by name? I think STD might be right

I could see Han Solo's death coming, but I was still shocked and saddened. Kylo Ren interests me . Not being a an unstoppable killing machine probably makes him more interesting.

I think Rey being Luke's daughter is too obvious. I don't know who else could be her parents though. Luke better be one bad motherfucker when he does come back.


Why can't Episode 8 be out right now?

McLegend 12-20-2015 01:33 PM
Loved how "gritty" the movie looked.

Lock Jaw 12-20-2015 02:16 PM
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Are we sure it was Coruscant that was destroyed? I mean yeah it looked exactly like it, but why it was never mentioned by name? I think STD might be right

I could see Han Solo's death coming, but I was still shocked and saddened. Kylo Ren interests me . Not being a an unstoppable killing machine probably makes him more interesting.

I think Rey being Luke's daughter is too obvious. I don't know who else could be her parents though. Luke better be one bad motherfucker when he does come back.


Why can't Episode 8 be out right now?
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Reading about it "online", it was indeed not Coruscant that was destroyed. STD is correct. New Republic and its senate set up on some other worlds.

McLegend 12-20-2015 02:27 PM
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The children that Ray hears crying when she finds the lightsaber are the younglings that Anakin killed in episode 3? If so that's another nice touch.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-20-2015 04:00 PM
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The children that Ray hears crying when she finds the lightsaber are the younglings that Anakin killed in episode 3? If so that's another nice touch.
Still don't like how they had Anakin do that. Why should we care about a redemption of a child killer? Seems like they went way too far to be dark and did the original films a discredit.

It's like how they changed the voice of Boba Fett to be Jangos in Empire. Stupid plot devices from the prequels should not effect the originals it should be the other way around because they are the classics.

Lock Jaw 12-20-2015 04:06 PM
Yeah, would be much better if he was just a regular mass murderer of adults. Now there's a guy I can get behind.

The Rogerer 12-20-2015 04:31 PM
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Still don't like how they had Anakin do that. Why should we care about a redemption of a child killer? Seems like they went way too far to be dark and did the original films a discredit.

It's like how they changed the voice of Boba Fett to be Jangos in Empire. Stupid plot devices from the prequels should not effect the originals it should be the other way around because they are the classics.
You were fine with him bombing an entire planet with millions of children then

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-20-2015 04:44 PM
It was Grand Moff Tarkin's idea and the Emperor put him in charge not Vader. He couldn't disobey.

road doggy dogg 12-20-2015 04:46 PM
What are you on about?

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-20-2015 05:40 PM
That Vader didn't destroy Alderaan The Grand Moff Tarken did.

road doggy dogg 12-20-2015 05:58 PM
#AlderaanLivesMatter

Wishbone 12-20-2015 06:33 PM
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hmm It's been awhile since I saw episode 6, was my least fav of the original trilogy. I only remember him acting aggressive with vader but I do remember him wearing black throughout the whole movie.
Yeah, he's not like full on "I'll rip your face off" aggressive. Most of it comes from dialogue and not from actions. He's just overly threatening with his words and tends to act way more cocky than you'd expect from a Jedi. I mean that could just be because at the time Lucas hadn't established all the Jedi rules yet, but he does come across as much more threatening than most Jedi do.

Fignuts 12-20-2015 08:07 PM
I dunno about that. He tries to end the conflict with Jabba nonviolently several times, and tries to reason with Vader too. Theonly time we really see him cut loose is at the end of the fight when Vader says he'll turn Leia.

Fignuts 12-20-2015 08:12 PM
I don't have as much a problem withAnakin killing the younglings as I do about how fast he went from blubbering like a little baby about attacking Mace Windu to slaughtering children.

Wishbone 12-20-2015 08:19 PM
Yeah, I mean he totally does try to end it non-violently, but the way he does so isn't exactly super "Jedi-y". He flat out tells Jabba that he'll either surrender to Luke's demands or end up dead. I think the exact line is "you can either make a profit, or be destroyed". Death threats don't usually go hand and hand with the Jedi.

Wishbone 12-20-2015 08:21 PM
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I don't have as much a problem withAnakin killing the younglings as I do about how fast he went from blubbering like a little baby about attacking Mace Windu to slaughtering children.
Agree 100% with this. Darth Vader being a cold blooded bastard that would kill children seems perfectly in character for him. It's just that Anakin from the prequels doesn't fit that bill. I think that's more of an issue with the prequels as a whole though. They didn't present Anakin the way they should have. He should have shown more violent tendencies from day one. Not killing kids or anything, but maybe show him being more aggressive in combat and like willingly (and joyfully) killing people despite Obi-Wan's protests would have been good.

Fignuts 12-20-2015 08:24 PM
To be fair he isn't a jedi at that point, and even then only had a small amount of training compared to spending his entire life training like the prequel jedi.

So a few death threats are par for the course really.

Wishbone 12-20-2015 09:11 PM
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To be fair he isn't a jedi at that point, and even then only had a small amount of training compared to spending his entire life training like the prequel jedi.

So a few death threats are par for the course really.
Well, yeah, Luke isn't a Jedi at that point, and I'd argue that he never really becomes one in the movies (haven't seen Force Awakens yet so I can't say there). I mean to be a true Jedi you have to follow all of their rules and teachings and Luke never does that. In fact he goes against the Jedi teachings quite a few times. That's why I think it's safe to say that even if Luke didn't/doesn't turn to the dark side he'll still never be a true Jedi. However, that's a good thing in my opinion. Honestly if you think about it the Jedi are more to blame for Darth Vader's rise than Palpatine is. If Anakin hadn't been told by the Jedi that he wasn't allowed to love he wouldn't have had to hide his thing with Padme, and if he hadn't had to hide it he probably would have come to Yoda or Obi-Wan way before he went to Palpatine for help. Really Anakin only went to Palpatine because he felt like he had nowhere else to go for help.

Blonde Moment 12-20-2015 09:30 PM
I am kind of staring to feel like everything that has happened from Episodes 1-7 has been a direct result of Yoda's declining mental and physical health. The Yoda we find in episode 5 is a mere shadow of his former self and I suspect that while Luke might have been "ready" to take care of himself he was in no way ready to be a teacher of anyone.

Is it possible that Luke's vision in 5 wasn't about what could be but more of what will come to pass?

Emperor Smeat 12-20-2015 11:10 PM
Already shattered a few box office records and barely lost out on another quick record.

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Box Office: ‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens’ Shreds Records With $238 Million Debut

“Star Wars: The Force Awakens” micronized box office records this weekend, racking up a monumental $238 million opening and justifying the Walt Disney Company’s $4 billion purchase of LucasFilm.

That 2012 acquisition was intended to launch a cinematic universe set in a galaxy far, far away: a series of interconnected sequels, spin-offs, and prequels that would serve as a filmic parallel to Disney’s Marvel Comics-inspired adventures.

J.J. Abrams’ nostalgic take on the series of space operas George Lucas created four decades ago was a hit with critics and fans, earning strong reviews and an A CinemaScore. Its opening soared past the previous high-water mark of $208.8 million established last summer by “Jurassic World.” It more than doubles “The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey’s” December record debut of $84.6 million.

Globally, “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” scored the second biggest opening in history, earning $517 million worldwide, behind only “Jurassic World’s” $525 million bow. Unlike “Jurassic World,” the seventh film in the “Star Wars” saga did not have the benefit of showing in China on its inaugural weekend. It opens there on Jan. 9.
http://variety.com/2015/film/box-off...ds-1201665753/

Tom Guycott 12-21-2015 02:43 AM
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Still don't like how they had Anakin do that. Why should we care about a redemption of a child killer? Seems like they went way too far to be dark and did the original films a discredit.
http://www.schnittberichte.com/www/S...hildkiller.jpg

road doggy dogg 12-21-2015 08:59 AM
Damn, $517M without China? That's pretty insane

Reavant 12-21-2015 11:34 AM
I gues i must be an asshole, but i didnt love it.


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