Hmm funny how many pro wrestlers, particularly those who employed the crotch chop are totally okay with it and see it as an homage which it is. It's what they grew up on and got them into wrestling. We talk about wrestling being organic, and think about it, if you grew up loving the attitude era and nWo you'd be doing the too sweet wolfpack shit and suck it. It's about as organic as it gets.

They've wrestled in the tokyo dome sold out, they make tons of dough, they get big pops. You may just be a hater Fan.

i should fact check that tokyo dome stat, totally pulled it out of my ass lmfao

As long they buy tickets *shrug*

Should explain that better. If you're whole schtick is kind of spotfest backyard monkies who are HUGE MARKS for wrestling, then why wouldn't you be doing all that shit. It's very apparent they haven't lost that 12-year-old fanboy feeling for wrestling which in many ways is refreshing. Part of being like that is spamming all the cool shit. Makes complete sense IMO.

And for Destor THAT MOTHERFUCKER who is always crediting the wwe's booking for being Meta, I feel like he would respect Young Bucks.

Don't even think Destor disagrees with me on this but fuck that guy

The guys who originally did the crotch chop being okay with it has nothing to do with it being uncreative. If I grew up loving the attitude era and nWo AND became a pro wrestler, I wouldn't be doing the too sweet wolfpack shit and suck it. Because that was already done 20 years ago and it would look retarded to just flat out copy it. Just like the Bucks doing it does.

What is so retarded about it? Guys rip stuff off all the time.

like it was 20 years ago. What's wrong with recycling it. Pretty sure nWo stole shit from the freebirds

Yeah but you adapt it, you dont just take exactlty what they did

then they would cease to be the young bucks.

There's a difference between "stealing shit" with ambiguity, maybe adding a slightly different spin on it and making it your own and LITERALLY just copying what someone else already did in a way that leaves no question.

Like I said, I was doing the "blatantly rip off actual wrestlers" thing when I was e-fedding at 15. I knew what I was doing. "Hey, I'm just blatantly copying a wrestler I like but you see, it's not just lame and uncreative... because THAT'S the gimmick! SO META, GUYS!" It was retarded and anyone with half a brain could see right through it. I had the excuse of being 15 and not really caring much about e-fedding. The Young Bucks are actual professional wrestlers doing what teenage e-fedders and backyard wrestlers were doing in the 90's.

But they can actually work. So therefore, it works. If they were just shitty backyarders or e-fedders, what they're doing wouldn't work at all.

god dammit fan I keep imaging you as todd pettengil

Heres the realitty: two hacky workers were doing hacky ass shit and by a sheer stroke of luck it got over. Doesnt mean its not hacky as fuck.

You could even say they're like a band who has their own original material sprinkled in with some covers.

Can you prove it was luck?

Is that not what they have done? I mean they are not totally ripping off DX and use the crotch chop to insult opponents. Thats about the only thing from DX that they use. I could understand if they went in to Road Dogg mode or a long HHH like promo asking if you are ready at the end and they did degenerate stuff but they dont.

Honestly, the crotch chop and 2 sweet stuff is a minor detail to me. Doesn't irk me at all.

Yeah i don't know how that means "ripping" people off.

Destor is just a mark.

The crotch chop is literally ripping off DX. There's no question about it. And no, they have not taken it and adapted it as their own. It's 100% just DX's taunt. The fact that they aren't doing everything else DX did doesn't make them doing their most iconic thing NOT just a blatant rip off. I don't even think The Young Bucks would say "We're not totally ripping off DX." They would just try to excuse it as being an homage.

I will agree that they aren't "killing the business" though because outside of hardcore wrestling marks who aren't going anywhere, no one will ever know who the fuck they are and the "90's backyard wrestler" shtick isn't something that has the mainstream appeal to go viral like the dick spot. The business is safe. They're just horrible.

How would you adapt a crotch chop as your own? Only chop with one hand? No hands just a thrust?

How about not stealing it at all and trying to have an ounce of creativity? Is that not an option?

HOW DARE YOU SPEAK ILL OF THE BUCKS. oh yeah wait I think I've seen like maybe 4 of their matches.

No that is not in any way what they have done

Its rediculous you would even imply it let alone actually argue it

My issue with the bucks is theyre the wprst offenders of being spot monkies. They don't sell and they just do random moves until someone wins all the while ruining the superkick for the lulz

Yeah. All this talk of them just stealing taunts is distracting from the fact that their matches happen to also resemble backyard wrestling spotfests with no sign of storytelling. They even look like they're 16 still.

A young bucks super kick has the same credibility as a headlock

Remember when Scott Hall used the crotch chop during the formation of the nWo which was soon followed by the rest of the nWo, WAY before DX ever used it? Damn those DX guys and their lack of creativity.

They're look is soooooo bad. No one on earth would be intimidated by them

Im sure it is but what they are doing seems to work just fine, don't see why they'd change now. Creativity is lacking in wrestling across the board and in my opinion NJPW is the best at the moment and rely more on sport than creativity.

Both the two sweet and the crotch chop were reallyt Kliq troupes in all fairness

Indeed, but who used them publicly first? :P

The Klique

Certainly wasnt the bucks or the club, but i have little invested interest in what taunts they use tbf

I'll agree they can't wrestle. Best matches they've been in are ladder matches with the likes of Daniels, Kaz and the Hardy's who probably called the matches. Now I think they could do better in the ring but the crowds they wrestle in front of like their pandering to them with the nostalgic crotch chop and too sweets.

I love comedy in wrestling, but I oddly find some things to get boring quickly. Like that Joey Ryan penis stuff. I dunno. It was funny the first time or two, but now I'm just like :-\ when I see videos of it online.

Comedy spots usually tend to just get more and more ridiculous to try and top themselves, but by then it's just gotten old already or it's run it's course.

Didn't realize there was another two pages after this one. Are we still talking about comedy in wrestling?

Basically