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slik 11-01-2017 12:40 AM

Billy Corgan announces NWA World Title Match
 
Good video imo:


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Mr. Nerfect 11-01-2017 12:44 AM

The sound on my computer isn't working, but that old dude looks intense.

Destor 11-01-2017 12:53 AM

Its a really human presentation and thats something that had been driven out of the countries products. I appreciate that. Dont think this match is going to sell any tickets but hopefully the presentation will.

Droford 11-01-2017 01:01 AM

Step 1 Get the belt off the 50+ year old guy no one knows

Lock Jaw 11-01-2017 01:13 AM

Boring video

Old Man vs. Magnus not gonna grab any eyeballs either

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-01-2017 01:30 AM

The White Samoa Joe Vs. Magnus.

Mr. Nerfect 11-01-2017 01:32 AM

Is it Tim Storm? Dude looks fucking sharp in a suit and carries himself like a champion. There's no one like him in wrestling right now. If he can actually work, dude might be a good champion. The gimmick doesn't work if he doesn't have the belt.

I like the idea of a "I'm not here for the frills of sports entertainment -- I got into wrestling and I've worked damn hard to eventually become the best wrestler in the world today."

I don't think it's necessarily going to draw, per se, but there's something in this guy. I fucking love him.

Mr. Nerfect 11-01-2017 01:32 AM

He got his start in 1995, before any of this Attitude crap.

Mr. Nerfect 11-01-2017 01:34 AM

He's legit the oldest champ in history. Being old and gruff and tough is his story. He's only three years older than Minoru Suzuki.

Tom Guycott 11-01-2017 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5035917)
The sound on my computer isn't working, but that old dude looks intense.

Kinda reminds me of that one human guy from Ren & Stimpy if he were a real-life person. He's had it up to *here* with circus midgets.

Tom Guycott 11-01-2017 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5035926)
Boring video

Old Man vs. Magnus not gonna grab any eyeballs either

But it's a place to start. True credibility doesn't happen overnight. That is the problem that every iteration of TNA fell for (they kept hitting reset buttons), and the problem with ROH initially.

Mr. Nerfect 11-01-2017 02:07 AM

Yeah, you've got to start somewhere and build something up.

Lock Jaw 11-01-2017 02:16 AM

Yeah, thought I types more there but I guess I didnt.

Magnus in there is a good start because at least some people will recognize his face, but probably not know him by his name.

Tom Guycott 11-01-2017 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5035946)
Yeah, thought I types more there but I guess I didnt.

Magnus in there is a good start because at least some people will recognize his face, but probably not know him by his name.

But again, that's something that will work itself out in time once folks get used to it.

Say, hypothetically, that sometime in the near future that "Notorious Nic Nemeth" challenges for the NWA title. Everyone who isn't a Kent State alum knows the guy with his current name, and would think it initally sound as weird as Cody-no-surname used to.

slik 11-01-2017 03:24 AM

It's more about the potential / approach they will take.


This video insinuates focusing on wrestling -- while also getting to know the wrestlers better in a less forced way, more natural. Is the current champ a Ric Flair/Harley Race/Dusty Rhodes on the mic - Nope, but they will find one who is eventually. Are there plans to film at CWFH forever - nope, just a stepping stone. If you listen to what Corgan says -- It sounds like he might have a good idea of how to approach this and be different from WWE, but not cringeworthy like TNA.

#BROKEN Hasney 11-01-2017 03:44 AM

Pretty good. I thought they were doing their own thing rather than being associated with other companies, but I gotta check out Championship Wrestling From Hollywood. Hear good things about it, plus it now has a Dino Windwood character, so that should be great.

Tom Guycott 11-01-2017 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5035957)
It's more about the potential / approach they will take.


This video insinuates focusing on wrestling -- while also getting to know the wrestlers better in a less forced way, more natural. Is the current champ a Ric Flair/Harley Race/Dusty Rhodes on the mic - Nope, but they will find one who is eventually. Are there plans to film at CWFH forever - nope, just a stepping stone. If you listen to what Corgan says -- It sounds like he might have a good idea of how to approach this and be different from WWE, but not cringeworthy like TNA.

But it also seemed to be edited in such a way to insinuate, even if just subliminaly, that this Tim "Perfect" Storm is on par with Harley Race in the badassery department. His name sounds a tad generic, but okay... at least it isn't as shit as Flip Gordon. And quite honestly, I'm a bit interested to see what he has to offer, and The Worker Formerly Known As Magnus isn't exactly the worst place to start.

Danny Electric 11-01-2017 05:29 AM

I liked that , loved the subtle comparison between Timd Storm and Harley Race as guys who aren't 'bodybuilders' going against guys with muscles , plays up the Championship fight well.
Also like how Corgan is trying to distance himself slightly with the name change , he seems to have the determination to make this go well .

Tom Guycott 11-01-2017 06:23 AM

That didn't strike me so much as "distance" as much as it seems like "Look, I'm serious about this". Everybody knows "Billy Corgan" as the Smashing Pumpkins guy who, by the way, happens to be a huge wrestling fan. "William Patrick Corgan" is the serious-pants executive captain/coach/owner of the team. As dumb as that may seem, something as simple as his altered name usage can go a long way with trying to get this ship christened.

Mr. Nerfect 11-01-2017 08:04 AM

It shows that he's putting a little thought in.

Maluco 11-01-2017 11:22 AM

He has a new album out under this name too, so don't think it has anything to do with wrestling. Maybe just a personal, aging change

Simple Fan 11-01-2017 11:23 AM

Kind if funny that the NWA is working with CWFH who are apart of the United Wrestling Network which is pretty much what the NWA was before Billy Corgan took over. Tim Storm vs Aldis won't turn alot of heads but you have to start somewhere.

Maluco 11-01-2017 11:35 AM

It's a real match though, and they are building up the history between it and the importance and weight of the title. There is a focus and an importance to the match.

Not saying this is going to be amazing, but one of the big reasons I stopped watching WWE was because the titles, and therefore, big matches, meant nothing. Everything is the same and rivalries or just recycled in and out and the titles are just accessories. It is tedious and boring.

If a promotion comes along and builds up their personalities and makes big title matches mean something, the I would definitely be on board

Destor 11-01-2017 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maluco (Post 5036051)
It's a real match though, and they are building up the history between it and the importance and weight of the title. There is a focus and an importance to the match.

Not saying this is going to be amazing, but one of the big reasons I stopped watching WWE was because the titles, and therefore, big matches, meant nothing. Everything is the same and rivalries or just recycled in and out and the titles are just accessories. It is tedious and boring.

If a promotion comes along and builds up their personalities and makes big title matches mean something, the I would definitely be on board

Yeah the direction really speaks to me. The talent will come in time if eyeballs go to the product. There's a vision here though and that is worth being postive about.


Im not sure if there's a market..but I really hope there is.

#1-norm-fan 11-01-2017 02:36 PM

I was thinking "Alright, so the first thing Corgan is gonna do is get the title off the old guy no one knows that the last regime put it on and give it to a younger guy that at least SOME wrestling fans know to start to build credibility."

Now I'm actually kinda intrigued by this Tim Storm guy. More than I am by Magnus.

Simple Fan 11-01-2017 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5036081)
I was thinking "Alright, so the first thing Corgan is gonna do is get the title off the old guy no one knows that the last regime put it on and give it to a younger guy that at least SOME wrestling fans know to start to build credibility."

Now I'm actually kinda intrigued by this Tim Storm guy. More than I am by Magnus.

Kind of agree, nothing wrong with Magnus but it just seems he was in s similar situation a few years ago as the inaugural GFW Champion. Storm at least has the unknown going for him and could surprise some people.

Emperor Smeat 11-01-2017 04:52 PM

Video was pretty good as an intro to what Corgan wants for the NWA.


Quote:

Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 5035960)
Pretty good. I thought they were doing their own thing rather than being associated with other companies, but I gotta check out Championship Wrestling From Hollywood. Hear good things about it, plus it now has a Dino Windwood character, so that should be great.

Probably needs a lot more time to start an actual NWA promotion and this is the easier way for the time being. Also puts a stronger emphasis on the title carrying the NWA legacy instead of multiple promotions.

Mr. Nerfect 11-01-2017 07:34 PM

I watched it with sound. Yeah, I'm into this. Very simple stuff.

Simple Fan 11-01-2017 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5036184)
I watched it with sound. Yeah, I'm into this. Very simple stuff.

Which is all it needs to be to start out. Not any real talent out there to make a big splash so starting simple is smart.

Bad News Gertner 11-01-2017 08:02 PM

Lol Tim Storm is horrendous

Mr. Nerfect 11-01-2017 08:08 PM

Have you seen some of his shit?

#BROKEN Hasney 11-13-2017 09:04 AM

And the result of the match is

SPOILER: show
Tim Storm retains

slik 11-13-2017 11:08 AM

Tim Storm vs. Hulk Hogan at NWAMania BrotherJackDude

Jordan 11-13-2017 11:13 AM

Horrible indy garbage

Lock Jaw 11-13-2017 11:16 AM

Give the title to Toni Storm instead and I'll watch

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-13-2017 01:16 PM

That match was the liquid shits

#1-norm-fan 11-13-2017 01:22 PM

I skipped around and watched the end. It was awkward.

Bad News Gertner 11-13-2017 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5036197)
Have you seen some of his shit?

Yeah, and shit is very fitting

Mr. Nerfect 11-13-2017 08:06 PM

That's a shame. I like the idea of the oldest champion in history kicking ass.

slik 11-13-2017 08:49 PM

The NWA is Cancelled


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