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Kalyx triaD 05-25-2017 11:50 AM

So a theater in Texas is holding a screening for women only and they seem to be oblivious as to why this is making people angry.

Destor 05-25-2017 12:00 PM

The irony is strong

Big Vic 05-25-2017 01:24 PM

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Rammsteinmad 05-25-2017 01:34 PM

I figured the lack of heavy promotion was due to the fact that everyone involved had pretty much lost all enthusiasm for the DC universe.

Damian Rey 2.0 05-25-2017 01:38 PM

I call bs on that. Times square was plastered with Wonder Woman adds. Gal Gadot has been on several talk shows to promote the film with clips, trailer spots are on tv, the trailer itself has been featured heavily in theaters, MTV had a spot for it, and there's toys and merch everywhere.

Pretty sure people know this movie is coming out.

Ruien 05-25-2017 01:43 PM

I actually didn't know the date until I read that. I figu4ed it was coming out today for some reason.

Feel like I see a lot of internet adds though. Who watches regular television now a days?

Destor 05-25-2017 02:01 PM

That Fbook post is just lies tbh

Damian Rey 2.0 05-25-2017 09:46 PM

Indeed. Wonder Woman has been all over social media looking beautiful. I'd marry Gal Gadot for the record

Fignuts 05-26-2017 12:09 AM

FAKE NEWS

Ruien 05-26-2017 12:16 AM

I can't wait for a male only audience for the Thor movie coming out. Going to be insane. Dicks everywhere.

slik 05-26-2017 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4971725)
So a theater in Texas is holding a screening for women only and they seem to be oblivious as to why this is making people angry.

Who cares? It's the first female driven superhero flick. It's one screening, who cares?

Destor 05-26-2017 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sliksuke nakamura (Post 4971971)
Who cares? It's the first female driven superhero flick. It's one screening, who cares?

Everyome who is annoyed by hypocrisy

Kalyx triaD 05-26-2017 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sliksuke nakamura (Post 4971971)
Who cares? It's the first female driven superhero flick. It's one screening, who cares?

They would care, if you reverse the gender.

Kalyx triaD 05-26-2017 12:49 AM

Also wtf: WW is everywhere. Ads, tie-ins, trailers on youtube, c'mon now.

slik 05-26-2017 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4971973)
They would care, if you reverse the gender.

It's one screening, of the first female-driven superhero flick in history. It's not a big deal, at all. Of all the problems in the world, it's not one.

slik 05-26-2017 01:58 AM

The gender would never be reversed in this instance because there have been 80,000 action films starring male leads and every other superhero flick since superhero flicks became 'all the rage' thanks to Iron Man/The Dark Knight have starred a male lead.

Lock Jaw 05-26-2017 02:13 AM

Yeah.... agree with slik..... not a big deal..... good marketing ploy actually.... if it was regular women only screenings then that would be dumb..... but just one screening.... whatever....

Kalyx triaD 05-26-2017 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sliksuke nakamura (Post 4971984)
It's one screening, of the first female-driven superhero flick in history. It's not a big deal, at all. Of all the problems in the world, it's not one.

Reverse the genders... and it would be.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sliksuke nakamura (Post 4971985)
The gender would never be reversed in this instance because there have been 80,000 action films starring male leads and every other superhero flick since superhero flicks became 'all the rage' thanks to Iron Man/The Dark Knight have starred a male lead.

So? There's never been a boy/man exclusive screening for any of them. Any of them. Not for charity, not for anything. So... Black Panther should do this with black people? Have you any idea the shitstorm this sets? Think beyond the cheap stunt.

Blonde Moment 05-26-2017 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4971988)
Reverse the genders... and it would be.



So? There's never been a boy/man exclusive screening for any of them. Any of them. Not for charity, not for anything. So... Black Panther should do this with black people? Have you any idea the shitstorm this sets? Think beyond the cheap stunt.

Hard to say with the way things are going in the US recently. With the slight push by some minorities for segregated areas on campuses, Muslims unofficially supporting Muslim only buildings, male only coffee shops and patrolling neighborhoods, strange days are coming.

The Rogerer 05-26-2017 05:39 AM

It's shit if it happens but it isn't strange. There's loads of gender segregation in the history of our countries, and some still exists. We just seemingly had a brief blip where it wobbled.

Kalyx triaD 05-26-2017 01:34 PM

Like women only gym nights.

Fignuts 05-26-2017 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4971988)
Reverse the genders... and it would be.



So? There's never been a boy/man exclusive screening for any of them. Any of them. Not for charity, not for anything. So... Black Panther should do this with black people? Have you any idea the shitstorm this sets? Think beyond the cheap stunt.

If it was a regular occurance, it might. One screening on one night, is just going to ruffle a small group of people's feathers. The majority of the country won't even hear about this.

Fignuts 05-26-2017 02:15 PM

Majoriyy of Texas probably won't even hear about this.

Ruien 05-26-2017 02:43 PM

Is it a big deal? No. But that does not make it right.

Ruien 05-26-2017 02:44 PM

Can't wait for the next whites only movie. Everyone else needs to wait 1 extra day before seeing Spiderman.

Ruien 05-26-2017 02:44 PM

Can a transvestite go into the woman only movie?

Destor 05-26-2017 03:12 PM

If I identify as a woman can I watch too?

Fignuts 05-26-2017 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4972110)
Is it a big deal? No. But that does not make it right.

Ok. And?

Kalyx triaD 05-26-2017 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4972112)
Can a transvestite go into the woman only movie?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 4972114)
If I identify as a woman can I watch too?

Actually yes they will allow female identifying persons.

That could allow for some interesting logic trolling.

KIRA 05-26-2017 04:13 PM

Y'know after some thought I have zero problems with any of this.

Seems kinda cool tbh

Kalyx triaD 05-26-2017 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4972116)
Ok. And?

I don't think you're taking the current social political climate into consideration here.

Our point is we actually do not mind this, only that any reverse event with the exact same elements (only one night, for charity, etc) would not be dismissed as it is now. It would be a national outrage and likely shut down. Violently if trends are consistent.

Kalyx triaD 05-26-2017 04:15 PM

Either things like this are a problem, or they're 'no big deal'.

Destor 05-26-2017 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4972133)
Either things like this are a problem, or they're 'no big deal'.

And for clarity they should be no big deal

Kalyx triaD 05-26-2017 04:20 PM

I agree. Again, our issue isn't this event itself. It's the double standard.

Double standards and hypocrisy are in fact big deals. We're only highlighting the rules set before us.

Destor 05-26-2017 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savio (Post 4972157)
While I think what they are doing is wrong, I don't think any government intervention should stop them from doing so.

I def wasnt implying they get raided

Swiss Ultimate 05-26-2017 07:52 PM

Dudes are going to show up and tell them they identify as women. Not a big deal.

Vastardikai 05-26-2017 09:35 PM

I feel like it needs to be pointed out the following:

1. Wonder Woman is considered part of the DC Trinity (Alongside Superman and Batman).

2. Wonder Woman is a feminist Icon, up there with Rosie the Riveter and stuff like that.

3. Wonder Woman is the least represented part of the DC Universe, with the above two points considered. Before this movie, She had (for her own stuff) a failed Pilot, the classic series with Linda Carter, and an Animated Movie. That's it. Timmverse Batman alone is bigger than WW's entire stand alone programs/movies. (seriously, Batman: TAS, Batman: The Series, New Batman Adventues, and Batman Beyond). Batman's movies (not even counting animated movies) triple it. Batman's animated movies triple it if not quadruple it. Superman's movies alone double it. And Superman TV shows also double it.

And this isn't counting stuff like Superfriends, Justice League, and Batman vs. Superman that has her in the ensemble.

And when you consider how Comic Fans treat casuals and outsiders (Read: Women), yeah I get a fucking Women Only screening or two. Hell, it shouldn't be limited to just one theater in the country.

And sadly, I also get why Kaylx's drawers are in a twist.

Kalyx triaD 05-26-2017 11:16 PM

Women aren't treated as outsiders. Certain people come in, demand changes within the subculture, thus putting themselves as outsiders. Nothing ever could stop a women from being a comic fan. Nothing. The entry fee is the price of a comic, the viewership of a movie or animated series. You can't stop anyone from being a part of the culture.

What happens is some moralizing holier than thou type comes in and uses the medium to press their preset ideals and when they get called out; "Women aren't accepted", "Minorities aren't accepted", "Casuals aren't accepted", etc. This happened in gaming, it happened in STEM, it happened in many other industries and cultures.

And when we find the punk ass kid who harasses the only girl in an Overwatch team, or the one professor who makes a slightly sexist joke about women in research, they hype it up as standards of how women are treated - even though we'd have women in these very cultures/industries saying otherwise. 10 women saying their gaming experience online is alright for some reason pales to one or two who got trolled. It's an unfair and disingenuous standard.

Taking it back to the WW movie, I agree with Vastar's three points about Diana. She had a TV series ages ago, one animated movie, a failed TV pilot, and though a main player in certain cartoons - still just a co-star to guys who already had loads of movies. I totally get all that. That's why it was awesome to see her take on Doomsday in live-action. She's getting her due and her movie looks good. It just feels good that she looks to be the one to save the DC movie-verse.

However:

None of that explains how we accept a women's only screening when it would be unacceptable on the other foot. "Hey we're gonna have a boy's only screening of My Little Pony. We just created a bunch of new male characters and it'll be great to have fathers and boys enjoy this exclusively to show MLP is inclusive in all directions."

Same argument. Just as sweet and well intentioned. It would be shut down. Hasbro would be harassed and slandered all over social media. You wouldn't have time to read all the blogs attacking Hasbro and whichever theater participated in the event.

So you can make it sound as reasonable as possible; I'm saying that it still wouldn't please people in reverse. We're not just talking people who protested against men's victim centers, zealots will zealot. Even mass media and normal people just wouldn't dig a men's only anything - and perhaps rightfully so. Even your own example, Vas, included the idea that women didn't belong in gaming. That wasn't even a personally backed example of yours and it still has shades of how things would look if this was in reverse.

Emperor Smeat 05-27-2017 12:01 AM

In regards to the Alamo theater controversy, the movie theater recently gave an explanation for why they are holding this special Women's Only event.

http://i.imgur.com/KzcXqKE.png

Ended up becoming three screenings because of the sudden huge demand the theater got for tickets.

Kalyx triaD 05-27-2017 12:18 AM

The dismissal will not bode well for future complaints of sexist gestures.

Like I said, people are only playing the game they set. Ironically, the theater's responce is the response we all should of had the moment activists started screeching the last five years. The problem is we didn't then, but will now because 'lol men complaining'.


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