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Damian Rey 2.0 11-21-2017 02:12 AM

Supes v The League is the best scene in the movie

Kalyx triaD 11-21-2017 03:17 AM

Too bad Affleck seems done at this point. The DCEU really seems like a 'thing' now.

Rammsteinmad 11-21-2017 08:17 AM

Feels like nobody can be arsed with the DCEU but they're kinda at a point where they've invested too much time and money to pull the plug and start again.

Kalyx triaD 11-21-2017 01:57 PM

Put nothing past WB. I'm watching Flashpoint very closely.

Damian Rey 2.0 11-21-2017 02:04 PM

They kinda can't tho. Aquaman is already done filming, and wonder woman 2 is being written. I hope wb backs up a Mac truck of budget money and green lit projects to Affleck's house to convince him to stay on. I dream of a Matt Reeves trilogy staring Batfleck and maybe one more JL movie with him.

Kalyx triaD 11-21-2017 04:48 PM

Quote:

There’s a wonderful opportunity to tell the Superman story. Now there is a fantastic chance to show Superman in his full colors and tell a very complex, character-driven movie that is based on story and have that wonderful sensation of hope and happiness. A feel-good movie with lessons laced in there as well.
Henry is fucking giddy about his attitude reboot.

Damian Rey 2.0 11-21-2017 07:13 PM

He's been so on board with being Superman since getting cast. I love it. I hope he gets a proper film series as well.

Lock Jaw 11-21-2017 07:30 PM

I wonder how they bring Clark Kent back to life.... I mean, he was already walking the streets as Clark at the end of this one.... but it seems suspicious if Clark and Superman both come back from the dead at the same time..... (and suspicious in general for any human to come back from the dead)

Not that Clark or his secret identity have been really built up or used at all in the movie universe. Seemed like everyone knew he was Clark Kent and he wasn't really hiding it. Even in Justice League, Lois was shouting his secret identity in front of police officers.

I'm hoping Flashpoint maybe resets things a bit for Superman and Batman to fix the "problems" with them.

Good opportunity to recast Batman, fix The Joker's look, maybe add Damian Wayne to the mix.

Also good opportunity to tweak Superman's continuity a bit, make Jonathan Kent not have been a dick, really firmly establish Clark as his primary character.

Damian Rey 2.0 11-21-2017 07:43 PM

I think they need to stay away from drawing attention to a recast more than it will on its own. It's not like they played Clark Kent up as this big reporter. How they bring him back will be interesting, but Lois saying Clark in front of cops doesn't really give his identity away. It's a common name.

The joker can fix his look just because he's the fucking joker. Changing his face isn't out of the realm of believability.

Fignuts 11-21-2017 09:03 PM

What is this flashpoint talk?

Are they merging the CW stuff with the movies or something?

Damian Rey 2.0 11-21-2017 09:09 PM

No. The rumor was the Flash movie would be called Flashpoint

Lock Jaw 11-21-2017 09:10 PM

Not a rumour anymore

Damian Rey 2.0 11-21-2017 10:21 PM

Assuming it even gets made. At least one director has dropped out. Tho I think Ezra was very well received so I can see them pushing forward on getting him his own film.

He mentions knowing gorilla sign language, did maybe a gorilla Grodd movie

Kalyx triaD 11-21-2017 11:10 PM

Flashpoint is the most sensible way to correct any lingering issues the universe has at that point.

Damian Rey 2.0 11-21-2017 11:15 PM

Maybe. I think if you use it to reset and recast it'll just confuse the general audience.

Meanwhile JL finished opening weekend under $100 mil. Hugely disappointing and likely to flop. I am very curious to see how this'll effect things going forward and how quick wb is going to be to react

Destor 11-21-2017 11:19 PM

I think audience reactions are much more positive so the low sales wont hurt as bad. I think wondy was such a success that they'll be forgiving for its underperformance

Destor 11-21-2017 11:24 PM

(Audience reaction is mostly "meh" but thats a hyge upswing from OUTRAGE and people mostly agree the characters are good)

Damian Rey 2.0 11-22-2017 12:01 AM

But still, money talks. And it's likely going to take a loss. We shall see.

Damian Rey 2.0 11-22-2017 12:01 AM

Who'd have ever thought the justice league movie would be a bomb.

Kalyx triaD 11-22-2017 12:06 AM

All of us. The one thing we all agreed on is the concept overall was rushed and not earned.

Kalyx triaD 11-22-2017 12:08 AM

I'm so down for a JL vs Legion of Doom movie, tho. That was legit hype.

Damian Rey 2.0 11-22-2017 12:35 AM

They need to rebuild a lot of goodwill if they every plan on getting that far

Destor 11-22-2017 12:52 AM

Its important to note that the poor opening weekend isnt a critique on JL but on BvS. While JL was definitely mediocre i think the goodwill building has begun...though the road to a "come back" will be... long.

Damian Rey 2.0 11-22-2017 01:31 AM

But the box office will still hurt and that's what wb execs are gonna look at. I agree bvs is the reason people aren't going to see Justice League. But it hurts the film all the same

Destor 11-22-2017 08:20 AM

And for that reason snyder will be out the door

Damian Rey 2.0 11-22-2017 11:00 AM

I don't buy for one second that he stepped down. I think he was fired and to save face, they used his daughter's suicide as an out for him to walk away without humiliating him.

Destor 11-22-2017 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5047164)
I don't buy for one second that he stepped down. I think he was fired and to save face, they used his daughter's suicide as an out for him to walk away without humiliating him.

agreed

Simple Fan 11-22-2017 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 5047026)
I'm so down for a JL vs Legion of Doom movie, tho. That was legit hype.

Agreed, was the best part of the movie. Looking forward to it building similar to how the Avengers formed over time. I'm not big on the direction they seem to be taking the movies but am interested in seeing Legion of Doom/Injustice League.

Damian Rey 2.0 11-22-2017 01:23 PM

Just hire George Miller to do the justice league sequel

Destor 11-26-2017 03:02 PM

In the films 2nd week at the box office JL will finish in 2nd place to disneys Coco with $60 mil comjng in over the long weekend.

Jusice League is set to be DCs poorest return to date.

Lock Jaw 11-26-2017 03:15 PM

The more I think about this movie, the more I enjoyed it..... but I think for me a lot of it has to do with being a DC guy. To me it is like, Avengers are ok but THESE are the characters I want to see on the big screen.

Lock Jaw 11-26-2017 03:16 PM

I still think the first Avengers movie was better, but I'd watch Justice League over Age of Ultron any day of the week.

Actually, I'd probably watch it over the first Avengers movie too, even recognizing it as not being as good.

Destor 11-26-2017 03:31 PM

This movie was reeeeeealy close to getting it right. Missed the mark though.

Fignuts 11-26-2017 04:17 PM

I have never gotten the hate for Age of Ultron. Yes, its fląwed, mainly due large portions of the film being cut, but I still thought it was a really fun movie. People act like its dragonball evolution or something.

Lock Jaw 11-26-2017 04:21 PM

I think it's an ok movie, I don't hate it. Thought Justice League was even more ok, though.

Sixx 11-26-2017 04:48 PM

Meh, I loved Age of Ultron but I guess I'm just a sucker for Marvel.

Destor 11-26-2017 04:48 PM

Its problem was the bar had reached mythical levels.

Lock Jaw 11-26-2017 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 5048570)
Meh, I loved Age of Ultron but I guess I'm just a sucker for Marvel.

This is how I feel about this movie.

Damian Rey 2.0 11-26-2017 05:25 PM

I've enjoyed Justice League in both showings. I know and can see the obvious flaws but the heroes work so well together it saves it.

Bvs hangover killing this movie tho. It being mediocre not helping word of mouth. Pixar movie opening the following weekend hurts too.

Wonder if Warner had just pushed the film back into 2028, let Whedon have more time to redevelop the film, and give the cgi for time of things would've been better.

Destor 11-26-2017 05:46 PM

An extra 11 years might have helped, yeah.


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