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deathtrap 05-07-2009 11:34 AM
Christians back in the WWE?
 
Does this mean E+C will get back together or are they now? They were hilarious

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiaICoPqZfE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IPia...eature=related

DAMN iNATOR 05-07-2009 11:40 AM
They are not reunited for the moment, especially as Christian represents ECW as the NEW ECW Champion, and Edge represents SmackDown! as the NEW World Heavyweight Champion.

Volare 05-07-2009 12:01 PM
The only time they've had contact on screen is Backlash after Christain won the ECW title.

Xero 05-07-2009 12:12 PM
I'd ask where you were the past few months, but it's ECW, so it's understandable.

Afterlife 05-07-2009 02:25 PM
After all, ECW is fun to watch.

Volare 05-07-2009 02:26 PM
Evan F'ing Bourne.



Nuff said.

Krimzon7 05-07-2009 02:50 PM
Chris f'n tan

Nuff said.

GD 05-07-2009 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Volare (Post 2534723)
The only time they've had contact on screen is Backlash after Christain won the ECW title.
CONTACT :drool:

Xero 05-07-2009 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Afterlife (Post 2534880)
After all, ECW is fun to watch.
It's also the least-watched WWE program by a large margin.

Clearly they're doing something wrong.

Mooияakeя™ 05-07-2009 03:10 PM
<strike>Elija</strike>.... Jack Swagger, even mo' said.

Jeritron 05-07-2009 03:12 PM
That doesn't mean it's the reason why this guy has no idea that hes back in the WWE. He's been featured on Raw countless times, as well as promos they air for ECW during the programming. He was on Wrestlemania for crying out loud.
It's clearly just because this guy isn't following WWE. It's not an ECW problem.

Xero 05-07-2009 03:16 PM
True.

Jeritron 05-07-2009 03:17 PM
ECW is definitely the least watched for a reason. I'll agree there. It's a combination of:

a) a smaller roster, which lacks multiple big market stars. At a given time there seems to be one star they put on the show to "carry" the brand.

b) It's on Sci Fi channel

c) There is no real effort to solidify it as an equal brand of main event status on any split brand shows

d) There are no storylines or cliffhangers. It's straight up wrestling. This is a strength in many ways, but also a detriment from a ratings standpoint.

Still a good wrestling show though, in my opinion. Christian being as there is no real problem to me either, since he was reintegrated at an appropriate upper-midcard level. It's not a death sentence, since it seems to be a warm-up for being moved back into the other brands.
I see it as no different as when Matt Hardy, CM Punk, and others were moved to the brand. Christian is definitely "the draw" of the brand. They push and market it as such. I think it represents he's at an upper-midcard level, like Matt Hardy was. I don't see the shame in that, especially since I'm a realist and never expected Christian to return after 3 years and claim a spot higher on the card than when he left.

GD 05-07-2009 03:23 PM
Tommy Extreme!

Ain't no retiring.

GD 05-07-2009 03:24 PM
Plus, good wrestling shows can never be measured by ratings.

GD 05-07-2009 03:24 PM
At least the matches last longer than 5:00 minutes.

D Mac 05-07-2009 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Krimzon7 (Post 2534900)
Chris f'n tan

Nuff said.
*tian

DAMN iNATOR 05-07-2009 03:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2534938)
ECW is definitely the least watched for a reason. I'll agree there. It's a combination of:

a) a smaller roster, which lacks multiple big market stars. At a given time there seems to be one star they put on the show to "carry" the brand.

b) It's on Sci Fi channel

c) There is no real effort to solidify it as an equal brand of main event status on any split brand shows

d) There are no storylines or cliffhangers. It's straight up wrestling. This is a strength in many ways, but also a detriment from a ratings standpoint.

Still a good wrestling show though, in my opinion. Christian being as there is no real problem to me either, since he was reintegrated at an appropriate upper-midcard level. It's not a death sentence, since it seems to be a warm-up for being moved back into the other brands.
I see it as no different as when Matt Hardy, CM Punk, and others were moved to the brand. Christian is definitely "the draw" of the brand. They push and market it as such. I think it represents he's at an upper-midcard level, like Matt Hardy was. I don't see the shame in that, especially since I'm a realist and never expected Christian to return after 3 years and claim a spot higher on the card than when he left.
Also, I think, even though they get shitty ratings, that they should try and push for another 1/2 hour. It would allow them to add in some things like drama, but then they'd probably have to at least double the current ECW roster as well, just to give a sense of having a diverse roster that can compete with the other 2 WWE brands.

XL 05-07-2009 04:04 PM
Good point there.

I actually watched a full episode of ECW the other day and whilst the wrestling was good I felt they'd missed a trick by not allowing Christian to cut a promo - even a quick backstage interview or something.

I mean, the amount of time that is spent on the likes of HHH, Orton, Batista on Raw as a percentage of the show must be pretty big. You'd think the equivelant kinda time would be spent on building up Christian as the star on ECW.

Dorkchop 05-07-2009 04:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2534938)
ECW is definitely the least watched for a reason. I'll agree there. It's a combination of:

a) a smaller roster, which lacks multiple big market stars. At a given time there seems to be one star they put on the show to "carry" the brand.

b) It's on Sci Fi channel

c) There is no real effort to solidify it as an equal brand of main event status on any split brand shows

d) There are no storylines or cliffhangers. It's straight up wrestling. This is a strength in many ways, but also a detriment from a ratings standpoint.
3) it's on at midnight on Friday in Canada.

Ruien 05-07-2009 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Dorkchop (Post 2535014)
3) it's on at midnight on Friday in Canada.
Losing Canada = Losing 20 viewers.

Afterlife 05-07-2009 05:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2534923)
It's also the least-watched WWE program by a large margin.

Clearly they're doing something wrong.
Or your perpetuating of a negative stigma is working. It's got the best wrestling I've seen from any brand, so I'd say what they're doing is just fine.

Mr. Nerfect 05-07-2009 05:37 PM
The best movies are always the ones that make the most money, Afterlife, didn't you know?

Afterlife 05-07-2009 05:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2535123)
The best movies are always the ones that make the most money, Afterlife, didn't you know?
Hahaha, Indeed, Noid. How shortsighted of me.

Triple A 05-07-2009 06:00 PM
Jews back in the WWE

Afterlife 05-07-2009 06:30 PM
What a Taint thing to say.

Xero 05-07-2009 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Afterlife (Post 2535121)
Or your perpetuating of a negative stigma is working. It's got the best wrestling I've seen from any brand, so I'd say what they're doing is just fine.
I agree that it's the best wrestling on TV. But it isn't being bought by WWE fans.

Afterlife 05-07-2009 09:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2535176)
I agree that it's the best wrestling on TV. But it isn't being bought by WWE fans.
So?

Xero 05-07-2009 09:33 PM
Soooooooo they're doing something wrong.

Afterlife 05-07-2009 09:36 PM
That's retarded. The show is fine. It starts at 10pm on a Tuesday and it's half the length of the other shows. Those are two strikes right there. That doesn't mean the show is bad, it means it's inconvenient.

Xero 05-07-2009 09:41 PM
I never said the show is BAD. But from a MAIN STREAM perspective, it is. And that's what WWE is, a main stream company, and thus, they're failing to attract their main audience to what they promote as a third brand.

That's not good.

The 10PM argument holds no ground because they were on at 9 for months.

Afterlife 05-07-2009 10:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2535288)
I never said the show is BAD. But from a MAIN STREAM perspective, it is. And that's what WWE is, a main stream company, and thus, they're failing to attract their main audience to what they promote as a third brand.

That's not good.

The 10PM argument holds no ground because they were on at 9 for months.
I knew you'd blow off the 10pm timeslot, as if it had no effect on the show. But that's not much to do with the point, I guess. I just don't understand how it's bad, but it's not. It's Velocity. It's Heat. Until it gets the 2-hour equalizer, most fans will see it as lesser. That's a bad stigma, but it doesn't make it a bad show.

St. Jimmy 05-07-2009 10:43 PM
ECW: The land of Vanilla Midgets!

Droford 05-08-2009 12:13 AM
Christian is going to lose to Swagger at the PPV, who will lose to Dreamer before his contract runs out, who will be destroyed by Kozlov at the Great American Bash in Philly in July.

Its pretty obvious.

Oh, and Evan Bourne isn't the only reason to watch ECW...don't forget Matt Striker.

St. Jimmy 05-08-2009 12:14 AM
OMG VINCE HATES CHRISTIAN!!!!!1!!!1!!!!1111111111111!

Anybody Thrilla 05-08-2009 02:42 AM
ECW is the man.

LoDownM 05-08-2009 03:01 AM
Not a fan of the new version of "Just Close Your Eyes"

Afterlife 05-08-2009 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by LoDownM (Post 2535533)
Not a fan of the new version of "Just Close Your Eyes"
Indeed.

Sovereigntywillpr 05-08-2009 06:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Droford (Post 2535397)
Christian is going to lose to Swagger at the PPV, who will lose to Dreamer before his contract runs out, who will be destroyed by Kozlov at the Great American Bash in Philly in July.

Its pretty obvious.

Oh, and Evan Bourne isn't the only reason to watch ECW...don't forget Matt Striker.
That's what they'd do if they still booked in advance and didn't change things all the time because the internet ( yet they say "net smarks" are a small portion of the audience that doesn't matter)

kinda funny the double speak WWE has...

Mr. Nerfect 05-09-2009 02:34 AM
How awesome would a TLC Match for the ECW Championship between Christian, Jack Swagger, Tommy Dreamer, Evan Bourne, Tyson Kidd & Paul Burchill be?


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