What is percent chance of winning does Samoa Joe have at GBF?
 

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He has a 25% AT BEST at beat Brock

10% or less

He will not win but it will be a good match.

There's no way Brock has been built up the way he has (including his victory over Goldberg) to job to a guy who's barely been on the roster for half a year.

Joe headbutting Lesnar was Raw was badass though.

0. Leaner will beat him in 5 minutes if we are lucky.

Why is there no 2 3/4% option? That's the correct answer.

Depends if you take Kurt Angles 33 1/3 chance into account

Zero chance or roughly 8 1/3% on the Steiner scale of odds.

I went with the Steiner match on this one.

Surprised Damn iNator(or how ever he spells it) hasnt posted the Scott Steiner math promo by now.

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I think he's got a better chance than most people give him. Heyman seems to have a hand in the development of that program. Rumors say it is one and done, but I'm not sure it will be. They seem to be putting a lot of capital into the program. Doesn't feel like the usal "Brock smash" stuff. They've got an opportunity to make Joe here, and they can give him a run for a few months in order to pad out time until they move it back to Brock for WrestleMania.

They're fucking retarded if its one and done. Shit is white hot right now.

They don't even need to give joe the belt here to make him. Make it a competitive match with joe getting brock on the ropes, and you completdly cement the badass destroyer gimmick

But yeah, I would prefer a joe win, with lesnar taking it back at summerslam.

doesn't work though. It'd be Brock's first title defence since beating Goldberg, it'd make him look hella weak.

Joe stands toe to toe for most of the match until Lesnar gets pissed and dominates only to have Braun come in for the DQ

Braun costing Joe could potentially be great for all three.

Joe actually looks like he's gonna beat Lesnar before Braun costs him the match so he comes out looking like a beast.

Lesnar gets the win and can always have Heyman make the claim "Lesnar may have underestimated Joe but Joe was NOT about to win the match like you all think."

Braun comes out the next night on Raw to explain himself. "No one takes the title from Brock but me." Would fix some of that awfulness from when he was backing down from fights with Taker and Brock like a pussy and makes him look like a badass who welcomes the challege.

Obviously Reigns wants Braun once he returns though so you can do a match for free on Raw between the two for #1 contendership that ends soon after it begins when Joe runs in and starts brawling with Braun, causing him to win by DQ and pissing off Reigns. This leads to Braun vs Lesnar for the title and Joe vs Reigns at SummerSlam. Lesnar wins, Joe wins and it sets up a rematch and just to make sure there's no interference this time... it happens at Hell in a Cell.

After Hell in a Cell, you've still got a Strowman vs Joe match that has been quietly heating up on the back burner for months that can finally happen. If they can hold it off to WrestleMania, even better.

Joe V Brock feels soo much bigger than a one off if this is a one and done just to get Brock closer to Roman again(I can't believe they are doing it again)then somebody is really stupid you could have a series of matches with Brock and Joe and have each match intensify

How would I, considering I don't even know what the fuck you're talking about?

Eh, I get your point, but I disagree. Brock is Brock at this point. He's such a masterful worker that he can make it look like he's underestimated an opponent and gets caught. Dude is basically the best clown in the world given how easy he makes slipping on banana peels work.

Joe shows up and they beat the piss out of each other. Give it a big match feel with fire dancers for Joe and Brock just walking out. They beat the piss out of each other and Joe just has an answer for every attempt at the F5. They do some outside brawling and maybe even bust up Brock. They do the stop thing with Brock wiping blood out of his eyes as Heyman does his usual outside shtick. Brock is getting pissed and wants to wipe the blood out. He keeps taking down Joe, but the refs keep trying to wipe off the blood. Joe gets a cheeky kick in here and there. Heyman is clutching the Universal Title for dear life. Angle maybe comes out and whispers something to the referee about loosening up and letting them go. Brock comes back and hits some insane suplexes on Joe. Brock is in killer mode. He keeps going for the F5 but Joe always wriggles out. He eventually turns on into The Clutch. Brock tries to position Joe up for an F5, but Joe drills him with knee after knee after knee. He locks in The Clutch again and Brock is out.

Brock won't look weak in that match. The next night on RAW -- against medical advice -- Brock is out and just screaming "JOE! JOE! JOE!". He starts tossing furniture again (no car doors this time). "BRAAAAAAAUNN!!!" Brock stands in the ring -- suddenly stoic -- Braun walks up to Brock and looks down on him. We know where we are going for SummerSlam.

Joe vs. Reigns for the Universal Title and Brock vs. Braun. I'd be tempted to even put Braun over Brock, since as we're winding up to the potential end of Brock, maybe it's time to have him start putting people over? I'd like Joe to get a bit longer than SummerSlam, but I can see them putting the belt on Reigns there and maybe having Brock win the Rumble to challenge him. But Joe keeping the belt until Survivor Series where he passes it back to Brock would be fun.

I dunno -- I get what you are saying about it being the first title defense making it look weak -- but Brock is a different animal. It being his first title defense and being a complete blind-siding affair gives him more reason to be pissed -- and a pissed off Brock is the best Brock.

Before I vote, is Kurrrangle going to get involved in the mix? That changes the math.

Also, where is the option for "75 per-chance chance" or for "66 2/3 ch-percent"?

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We're talking about Joes' odds not Stieners.

I'm thinking it will end in a no contest (maybe a double pin/submission type thing) and a rematch at Summerslam, since Roman will be busy with Braun to blow off their feud and possibly determine a new #1 contender....

Lesnar will beat Joe, Strowman will beat Reigns (prob with Reigns next feud costing him) and that will be the Summerslam match.

Joe and Reigns will both be put into other feuds where they can get wins at SS

I dunno pretty sure Reigns will beat Strowman since they announced the SummerSlam match already (on the #1 contenders side)

If Braun beats Roman he can then claim the #1 Contendership, and we get the long-rumoured Brock/Braun match for SummerSlam.

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Then it's a 50/50 chance, because Brock isn't Steiner.

Also, if Angle isn't involved, Joe's chances don't drastic go down.

I've changed my mind. Braun coming back right now to work with Reigns makes me think they're going to go with Brock/Braun and Joe/Reigns at SummerSlam.