Who should "just leave" the WWE?
 

So I was listening to Jericho's podcast with Sami Callihan and he brought up how he just wasn't happy in NXT and asked for his release. I will say (baseball bat incident aside) he has made a good career for himself post WWE. It probably was better for his career to leave just like Drew Galloway, Cody, Austin Aries, even Christian back in 06, than to just stay where he was. So if you looked at the main rosters, who do you think should "bet on themselves" and leave WWE to try and make it in Japan/ Mexico or the American independents?

Anyone on NXT that was a name on the indies that isnt going to make it. They're losing money being there.

So pretty much everybody on NXT should leave?

If that statement is true for the enitre roster then absolutely...dont think it is tho

I'll be the first to say Ziggler.

His contract is killer. Fuck that.

Destor is thinking too much like a wrestler for this thread, I think.

I don't really care to see anyone leave outside of Matt Hardy. Over the shit.

The question is "who should bet on themselves." I dunno about eveyrone else but when I bet I try to make money

Ah, I guess I read it wrong. I was thinking a personal "just leave". Carry on.

Bray Wyatt.

Bray Wyatt is a good one. Probably the best one.

Also agree on Bray being a really good choice. He'd benefit the most by going away for a while to get rid of all the stink associated with the Bray character.

Scott Dawson and Dash Wilder so they can regain the spark they had during their time in NXT.

Was gonna say Dolph Ziggler. But, since he just signed a new contract, I guess he's happy where's he at/position at WWE. More power to him.

I'll jump on the Bray Wyatt bandwagon with the rest of ya.

Luke Gallows & Carl Anderson haven't fared well in WWE. They might wanna think about going back to New Japan.

I was feeling maybe Finn Balor should consider getting out. He was on top of the world for 24 hours after he won the Universal title but got injured. And that just totally derailed everything. But he's in this IC title triple threat at 'Mania now and I'm thinking he's on his way back. Can't say for sure.

I think it's a great idea for people to leave a 6 figure income to to slog it out on the Indies.

Rotunda is nothing without the Bray Wyatt character, just doesn't have the looking for anything else imo.

Dolph leaving would be silly from a financial point of view. He'd find work easily and any other promotion would push him to the top (New Japan included, don't fool yourselves). Artistically it would freshen him up. But his value isn't going to increase to the point where I think he comes back with a bigger contract than he has now. He'll just get to have a really good match with Okada.

Cesaro is someone I would have said a few years ago, but he's building up quite a bit of capital with the company. Bo Dallas could ask for an out for a few years just to go and get a lot better to come back, I guess. Vince probably wouldn't look down on him for that, given how low his position at the moment is and how young he is.

I think The Balor Club, frankly, sucks, but Karl Anderson used to brag about making $750,000 a year. I think they would be nuts to turn away such a big paycheck when they aren't that good in the first place. Anderson will probably get a cushy job at the PC in a few years. Luke Gallows is doing about as well as he can for as much as he can. Finn Balor is probably not hurting for cash either. He could go and "tear it up" in Japan again, but similarly to Ziggler, it's not going to make him more valuable.

It's not just about leaving and losing salary, Dolph was good enough to make a real reputation for himself on the Indies. He is much better than Cody imo. He could have come back renewed and got an even better contract. He should have done this 5 years ago.

Don't think I have ever seen anyone as tired and played out as he is now. Literally nothing player now. But maybe he is happy he didn't risk anything and got all the money he could from his tenure

Dolph's reputation on the indies is not going to increase to the point where he is going to be able to come back and get a much better deal though -- he's already on something pretty ridiculous. He would be taking a pay cut to work harder and come back at the same spot.

Fandango.

yeah pretty much a lot of these guys that already had a name in Japan or ROH and are not really doing much of anything. But i don't know how much they are making in WWE vs how much they could make elsewhere.

guys that come to mind are Harper, Gallows, Anderson. (but even these 3 are still featured every week on WWE TV)


And then you got the guys that are under used but can probably do a lot more on the Indies like The Revival, Ryder and a lot of those 205 Live guys.


I just took a look at the overall roster though and it's not like they have a lot of talented guys doing nothing to be honest.

I don't think Bray would ever want to leave and i don't think they would release him. He's character is stale as fuck, but let's see if he can reinvent himself first. i think he's a great hand and his career will probably be a lot like Kane's

KENTA

Yeah KENTA is a good choice. But I don't know if he'd be lighting it up wherever else he went, he looks like time has passed him by. I would've said Dolph, he could have similar success to Cody but his new contact in undeniable and if they never push him at least he's rich. Plus he can do outside projects and still get stacks from WWE.

I want to say Bo Dallas and Joe Henning but due to their family legacy they have a good shot at having life long jobs if they just do as their told. Plus I don't see either one as a big catch for ROH. They could make money no doubt but they should stay where they are.

Even Zack Ryder, what would he do outside WWE? Be the draw on lots of 300 tops indy shows? It's not going to equal out, he should stay as long as he can.

Agree with the mentioned Fandango and Itami. Itami would be fine going back to KENTA but Fandango would really have to reinvent himself, which I think he could do pretty well.

Alot of guys mentioned (Cody, Aries, Callihan) claim that they're making more now than they were in the WWE, I guess they only know for sure but I can see them being able to do it. I mean, I can almost guarantee Aries isn't getting $20 and some nachos per show

I guess I was thinking about it, in terms of guy like Galloway and Christian. Both guys were just kinda treading water in WWE, then they left and came back as way bigger stars then before. Could a guy like Apollo (Crews) do the same thing? He's not really doing much on the main roster, but has all the tools to be a big star if booked correctly. Can you see Apollo going to ROH, Japan or TNA, getting a huge push and becoming a bigger star than if he had just stayed in the position he's in now?

They also have to work twice as hard for said money

I think Fandango still has a way to go in WWE.

How much more though? Plus, you have to find your own bookings and such. In WWE all you have to so is show up and do your job.

Those spots outside of the WWE are also very few and far between.

Jason Jordan, this guy could cure every form of cancer and still have the crowd shitting on him, they just don't buy into him or this retarded story-line he was involved with.

Really isnt true. WWEs travel schedule is way worse

I meant in ring, not travel

Fewer matches, more recovery time. Fewer bumps overall

Nice wrestling posts man

The ones that are making great money aren't slacking off in their matches. If Cody Rhodes would have left the WWE and worked the same he wouldn't have had nearly the success he has now.

Its still a net loss of bumps. Leave the WWE and add years to your career

Yeah, I've never heard anyone say they had it easier in wwe, no matter how crazy their matches in other promotions are.

What career?

The one that buys you a house and feeds your family