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slik 05-06-2018 11:52 PM

Does RAW have a lack of credible heels?
 
Sami/KO/Baron/Dolph/Jinder don't really seem like 'credible threats' to big faces on RAW...unless someone turns heel does RAW have a heel problem r/n in your opinion?

Emperor Smeat 05-06-2018 11:59 PM

Losing Joe, Braun turning face, and Lesnar never developing a heel Final Boss type gimmick really hurt the brand for big heel stars. Same for Bray being reduced to joke status as a big heel threat.

Right now the only credible big heels they have are arguably Ziggy with McIntyre and Elias.

slik 05-07-2018 12:10 AM

It seems like Ziggy/Drew Mac are going to play in the tag division for a while

Sami/KO seem like heels who will be over, the way Miz is, but lose all the time (more than Miz did)

slik 05-07-2018 12:37 AM

Dreading the start of Jinder and Baron as main-event heels on RAW

Dark One 05-07-2018 01:00 AM

This is another part of the problem with the "big" title not actually being on the show regularly.

What do you even have "main event" heels go after? Roman? There's no water in that pool. Joe has been pretty over, and we saw what the end result of him going after Roman was. When it came time for the match, everyone turned on it pretty quickly--which admittedly wasn't helped by a horrible match layout.

They're just going to kick the can down the road, I suspect, since most of the allure of MitB is a bunch of dudes falling off of ladders.

It's probably going to be Jinder vs Roman, and I think that is legitimately atrocious enough that they may actually feel some pain from people turning away.

Sixx 05-07-2018 01:03 AM

Yeah, think I already asked this in some other thread.

As in I asked "who's the big heel on RAW" or something. But yeah, those guys are lame, you can expect them to get dismantled over and over again. You don't expect Sami to go over Roman, do you now?

RP 05-07-2018 01:26 AM

They should bring Enzo back with a rape gimmick.

Sixx 05-07-2018 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RP (Post 5119219)
They should bring Enzo back with a rape gimmick.

Make Bill Cosby his blind mentor that taught him everything he knows about date rape and Roman Polanski his manager.

slik 05-07-2018 02:54 PM

Even if they turn Lashley or Balor heel I don't see either getting some big run out of it...maybe Jason Jordan will be a top heel when he returns or Dean Ambrose...I donut know

Mr. Nerfect 05-07-2018 02:57 PM

Heels don't need credibility. They are supposed to get BOOED. The worse the heels are the cooler Roman Reigns will look.

Sixx 05-07-2018 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5119371)
Heels don't need credibility. They are supposed to get BOOED. The worse the heels are the cooler Roman Reigns will look.

*cough cough/ X-Pac heat *cough cough*

Dukelorange 05-08-2018 08:40 AM

As always, I blame creative.

Ruien 05-08-2018 09:08 AM

Elias is going to be the top heel. Jason Jordan will be the second legit heel.

Owen's will be the pussy heel who always gets whooped on. Something that is needed.

Ruien 05-08-2018 09:08 AM

Why does everyone forget about Elias? He has superstar potential oozing out of him.

slik 05-08-2018 09:44 AM

Elias is awesome he just never wins it seems :(

Ruien 05-08-2018 10:29 AM

Didnt he beat Roode twice clean?

slik 05-08-2018 10:47 AM

idk maybe I don't pay attention to Bob Roode matches tbh b/c I think he should be a heel

He might have tho!

Shisen Kopf 05-08-2018 11:15 AM

Roman Reigns should just come out to the ring, not say anything and take a dump in the ring. Then leave. That's pretty much where hes at now

Stickman 05-08-2018 11:30 AM

Raw definitely lacks credible heels. Thats a big reason it's so boring right now. For the first time in a long time I am really uninterested in watching raw on pvr and fast forwarding through it. The only interesting thing is Braun now that Elias is booked like a chump.

slik 05-08-2018 11:37 AM

yeah to be a credible heel you got to be able to beat other main-eventers in matches

Sixx 05-08-2018 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5120010)
Elias is awesome he just never wins it seems :(

Yay, he was my pick for TPDub survivor!

SlickyTrickyDamon 05-08-2018 02:03 PM

Drew McIntyre he looks ready to go.

Stickman 05-09-2018 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 5120044)
Drew McIntyre he looks ready to go.

Except he is with Dolph


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