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slik 07-10-2017 11:36 PM

This Kurt Angle doc is making me want them to bring WrestleMania back to Safeco Field in Seattle

slik 07-10-2017 11:47 PM

I had no idea Kurt broke his neck twice while in WWE. That's insane he broke his neck 3 times overall. Good documentary!

slik 07-10-2017 11:47 PM

There's Dixie, officially listed as "Former TNA Wrestling Pres."

Hell hath frozen over.

slik 07-10-2017 11:48 PM

This might be the best documentary they've done yet. So much of Kurt's rise paralells the Attitude Era, Cena era and Brock.

slik 07-10-2017 11:48 PM

They are diving into the death of Kurt's adult sister due to addiction, which happened the same time he was battling it.

slik 07-10-2017 11:49 PM

Kurt's wife telling a funny story about them having their first date at an Applebees

slik 07-10-2017 11:53 PM

Kurt's wife talking about Kurt 'blacking out' on the couch and her threatening to take the kids and leave unless he changed his life. Dixie has been on 3-4 times talking about Kurt so far, she comes across as very nice/genuine.

#1-norm-fan 07-11-2017 12:08 AM

Theory: Bayley is Kurt Angle's illegitimate daughter.

Tom Guycott 07-11-2017 01:31 AM

Old school "Late To The Party" TL;DR style... (this is usually why I multipost in more palatable portions)

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4989414)
Same like when Cryme Tyme broke up and the taller Shad got pushed, Cass' singles run is going to flounder once he's done with the Enzo stuff.

"But... but he's tall! And menacing! He should be top talent for the next 8-10 years because of that! You people don't know what you should like... LOOKIT HOW BIG AND MENACING HE IS, DAMMIT!!!"

Seriously how I imagine Vince sounding in my head everytime they get another big man on the roster. They all can't be Andre. Most just end up like Jackson Andrews.


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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4989433)
:| One of Cass' best promos ends with him getting beaten up by Big Show. Sure the bar is pretty low for him because of his poor promo skills but that did nothing for Cass after he tried to build on the heat from last night and the idea of him becoming delusional with star power.

To be fair, Cass isn't really that bad on the stick. He is nowhere near Enzo, but he isn't Jeff Hardy's first singles push abysmal either. With Enzo doing most of the heavy lifting since they paired up in NXT, he's been glaringly outshined with a mic, and now that he's Generic McBadHeel, he is coming off worse than he actually is... ironically similar to who kicked his ass: Big Show. Remember how nobody thought Show had *anything* until that SNL cameo? According to stories floating around from around then, he actually had chops, but never really got to display it onscreen. Cass needs something he can sink his teeth into, like being the personal ring announcer and providing the theme music for Blue Pants or the (very) few occasions where he dominated the talking time (like that one where he made a joke, but Enzo didn't get it at first, and spent half the interview actively piecing it together while Cass was speaking).

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Originally Posted by Breezango's Gay Lover (Post 4989486)
Random thought going back to Big Cass. Does anyone here see the potential with him like Test had?

With qualifications, yes. However, the biggest potential problem is one of his biggest assets: being tall. Sort of the opposite end of the spectrum from Austin Aries, WWE will likely expect a lot of grand and instantaneous results just by virtue of him being a really tall guy, and as such, never really give him any opportunity to advance as a character. Yet another big, generic heel.

Unless there are dimensions added to him (like the aforementioned Test started becoming an enormous asshole that exuded douchebaggery and abusive woman-hating: there was a *reason* to hate him other than just size), people will collectively stop giving a crap after his feud with Enzo runs its course. And, if "getting over by osmosis" fails, like so many others, it will supposedly be his own fault instead of the lack of ability of even one of the how many ever writers they have coming up with an idea for the man to have shit to do beyond next week.

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Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 4989503)
Sony making an open attempt to summon the dark lord Cthulu with this film

Speaking of, I really like the "Bray-thulu" shirt.


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Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 4989514)
Imagining Bray Wyatt feuding with Miz and "stealing" Bo Dallas and Curtis Axel from him

Seduction of one or the other. Most people would say Bo, because "they're brothers" and their inexplicable BO-ner for the guy, but I would say Axel specifically. Slowly, over time... as in not suddenly have him come out in unwashed coveralls. Bray is talking to him in the background of other people's promos (the ones where Corey Graves isn't lurking or texting). The beginning of a Mizterouge promo starts with Bray turning and leaving and Henning* thanking him, Miz or Bo asking what that was about, and him initally just kinda glossing over it with a non-answer. Then, later on, saying stuff like "You ever just talk to the guy? He makes a lot of sense!" and eventually, refers to Bray something like a "spiritual advisor" or somesuch. Bray makes him the monster he should be.

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Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 4989549)
Remember when R-Truth was crazy and got that title shot against John Cena way back when?

Good times.

Remember when that one little throwaway line in a promo about a stereotypical little kid Cena fan turned into a super over imaginary sidekick that got way more mileage than it should have?! Funny how shit works sometimes.

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Originally Posted by rez (Post 4989575)
lol kicked from your own tribe, joe. dat shitty music

Fuck youuuuu! I like the fake Simon Says. And that's not sarcasm.

Hell, I'd be all for the real song if they wouldn't have to pay a ton of money for the licence and possibly even additionally for the Godzilla sample and also edit the shit out of the lyrics.

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Originally Posted by Dark One (Post 4989589)
Just capped off that god awful plot advancement for Roman's story with confirmation from my realtor that I did not get that house.

Time to go find a bridge.

I got one I can sell you.

... too soon?

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Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 4989590)
This bromance between Graves and Angle feels like Graves trying to take GM spot

probably not since this is RAW and that would be interesting.

:y: ... or, he can be in the GM's good graces and perpetually "in his ear" like so much Wormtoungue. Angle is the figurehead, but Graves *really* runs the show behind the scenes.

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Originally Posted by Dark One (Post 4989589)
Just capped off that god awful plot advancement for Roman's story with confirmation from my realtor that I did not get that house.

Time to go find a bridge.

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4989604)
Sorry to hear.

No need to look since I found a bridge for you:
http://i.imgur.com/EhMA7.gif

But seriously joke or not, don't actually think about that last part. Not worth it and there will be more houses available in the future.

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Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 4989605)
Her bridging suplex IS ABSOLUTELY PERFECT

No it isn't, because she didn't hook the leg for a fisherman. :wink wink nudge nudge:

But seriously, that is a thing of beauty. You don't see textbook bridging suplexes often, especially anymore. It's usually a throwaway move or an immediate transition to something else.



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Originally Posted by RP (Post 4989657)
Obvioulsy this is a Dixie thing

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Originally Posted by sliksuke nakamura (Post 4989659)
I think it might be tbh...

Seems very "Claire Lynch" - ish

SWERVE! Kurt is sexting Dixie Carter! They will also start mentioning TNA in people's histories, since TNA isn't TNA anymore! Source: pulled from my ass.

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4989704)
Theory: Bayley is Kurt Angle's illegitimate daughter.

... Bayley snaps and becomes a badass submission machine. Adopts his ECW remix as her theme. Also, starts rocking star spangled singlets and mouthpieces. Pulls the straps down mid match, and hits three consecutive Bayley To Belly suplexes before an ankle lock.


END OF LINE

Mr. Nerfect 07-11-2017 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4989704)
Theory: Bayley is Kurt Angle's illegitimate daughter.

Given the "new direction" that was rumored with Bayley, this would not surprise me at all.

Mr. Nerfect 07-11-2017 06:49 AM

Another random theory: Kurt Angle has been having an affair with Lana. This is to build to Rusev vs. Angle. They like embarrassing Rusev and Lana, and Angle is game for anything and has said he wants the match. I won't go as far to "predict" it, but that really wouldn't shock me.

* They've sped through the Naomi vs. Lana stuff.

* Rusev is playing the anti-American in his feud against the free agent.

* Angle can help Cena at Battleground to continue blurring brand lines, because that feels like something that would do.

* It would be Angle acting like a heel which is totally in line with at least one feud Rusev has had around Lana.

Mr. Nerfect 07-11-2017 06:50 AM

Also possible: It's not even something that bad and it's just entirely goofy and has no consequence to the product at all.

Mr. Nerfect 07-11-2017 06:53 AM

The "big one" is Angle/Steph, but I just cannot see them doing it. It just seems like something that Triple H and Steph would nix. I can see them getting involved in whatever Angle is doing, but it just doesn't seem like a kosher move.

I did have the brief thought of Vickie Guerrero too. I don't know why. God, I don't know why.

Rammsteinmad 07-11-2017 07:01 AM

Oddly enough that was the first name I thought of too (Vickie Guerrero), before quickly coming to terms with the fact that I don't really care who it is.

Mr. Nerfect 07-11-2017 07:10 AM

Ha, that's a similar response to me. I'm speculating, but it's more with a tepid bemusement than anything else.

Mr. Nerfect 07-11-2017 07:24 AM

I'm curious to read about the direction they go in for SummerSlam. It seems likely that Strowman will get involved. But are they really going to go with a 4-Way at SummerSlam? It's not entirely unlikely, especially given the "SHEER MASS OF HUMANITY!" in the ring. Something about it seems like a cop-out and like it's jammed in there. But it seems like they are also going to do a 4-Way between the women and the RAW tag teams. Is this going to be like WWE Fatal 4-Way all over again?

A thought I had listening to a RAW recap was that they could do something WrestleMania X-like. Reigns could face Strowman in their final blow-off match while Joe could face Lesnar for the Universal Title. Then Brock and Reigns can face each other in the main event. It also seems unnecessary, but one thing I do like about it is that it puts emphasis on specific guys. The WWE has a star shortage, and instead of jamming everyone on the card, I'd rather they focus on the things that are at least somewhat working.

Big Vic 07-11-2017 08:52 AM

I think someone is going to out Kurt as being transgender. Kurt will be embarrassed at first but will learn that the WWE universe still accepts him.

Mr. Nerfect 07-11-2017 09:05 AM

Angle is such a trooper that he would probably go along with the program.

Evil Vito 07-11-2017 09:17 AM

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See, this is the kind of stuff that should be put on TV to help fill time and help showcase characters. Gallows and Anderson are actually funny, entertaining dudes.

Mr. Nerfect 07-11-2017 10:20 AM

Maybe Kurt Angle's big secret is that he signed Shelton Benjamin to a 7-figure contract with a guaranteed Universal Title shot against Brock Lesnar? Scandalous.

#1-norm-fan 07-11-2017 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4989838)
I did have the brief thought of Vickie Guerrero too. I don't know why. God, I don't know why.

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4989839)
Oddly enough that was the first name I thought of too (Vickie Guerrero), before quickly coming to terms with the fact that I don't really care who it is.

Same, for some reason. As soon as I read what happened it was almost like a foregone conclusion in my mind. "Oh. Vickie Guerrero." No clue why.

#1-norm-fan 07-11-2017 11:08 AM

I guarantee WWE started this mystery just to have a mystery and didn't know how it would end until sometime last week though. lol

They don't have Hornswoggle to get them out of it this time, so that's good.

#1-norm-fan 07-11-2017 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4989872)
I think someone is going to out Kurt as being transgender. Kurt will be embarrassed at first but will learn that the WWE universe still accepts him.

"Fuck a broken neck. I won a gold medal with OVARIES!"

Big Vic 07-11-2017 11:26 AM

Kurt Angle would probably be the most dominate womens Champion of all time.

#1-norm-fan 07-11-2017 11:51 AM

Except in tag matches/non-title matches. Because we'd still have to wonder WHAT WILL HAPPEN THIS SUNDAY!?

Theo Dious 07-11-2017 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 4989664)
I cannot fucking believe Dixie Carter might be involved in a WWE storyline.

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Originally Posted by Some Guy In 2002 (Post 4989664)
I cannot fucking believe Eric Bischoff might be involved in a WWE storyline.

Everything old is new again.

Theo Dious 07-11-2017 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4989915)
I guarantee WWE started this mystery just to have a mystery and didn't know how it would end until sometime last week though. lol

They don't have Hornswoggle to get them out of it this time, so that's good.

OR DO THEY???

KIRA 07-11-2017 03:56 PM

Steve Ray looks....old. His brother looks more or less the same as he did while wrestling (occasional glasses notwithstanding)

James Steele 07-11-2017 05:12 PM

Kurt Angle is having an affair with...


Tom Guycott 07-11-2017 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4989837)
Also possible: It's not even something that bad and it's just entirely goofy and has no consequence to the product at all.

No planned payoff, and it just goes away. They bring it up years later, and it's revealed to be compromising pictures of Hornswoggle.

Tom Guycott 07-11-2017 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 4989885)
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See, this is the kind of stuff that should be put on TV to help fill time and help showcase characters. Gallows and Anderson are actually funny, entertaining dudes.

TAKE OUT THEM FRUIT-BOOTIES, 110th STREET STYLE! SUCKAS GOTS TA KNOW!!!

Tom Guycott 07-11-2017 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4989838)
I did have the brief thought of Vickie Guerrero too. I don't know why. God, I don't know why.

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4989839)
Oddly enough that was the first name I thought of too (Vickie Guerrero), before quickly coming to terms with the fact that I don't really care who it is.

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4989913)
Same, for some reason. As soon as I read what happened it was almost like a foregone conclusion in my mind. "Oh. Vickie Guerrero." No clue why.

Well, it *would* give them the excuse to rehash those "nude" pics of Vickie that "leaked" before.

Lock Jaw 07-11-2017 11:49 PM

It's Hornswoggle.

Tom Guycott 07-12-2017 01:10 AM

Okay, about three of us have said Hornswoggle now, so that means it is too obvious and they're going to go in a different direction. So, it's now likely to be untoward pics of Mae Young's grown up hand.

Mr. Nerfect 07-12-2017 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4989915)
I guarantee WWE started this mystery just to have a mystery and didn't know how it would end until sometime last week though. lol

They don't have Hornswoggle to get them out of it this time, so that's good.

Haha, that is exactly what I think. To be honest, I don't really know if they knew where the Enzo/Cass stuff was going. Cass faking it himself? Why did he even do that?

Tom Guycott 07-12-2017 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4990373)
Haha, that is exactly what I think. To be honest, I don't really know if they knew where the Enzo/Cass stuff was going. Cass faking it himself? Why did he even do that?

He did it for... The Rock.

rockman725 07-12-2017 03:36 PM

I believe that this will involve Stephanie in some way. My guess is that they have a picture or some video footage from 2000 that wasn't used in the initial storyline that was (for story purposes) "leaked" or "stolen" which will bring Steph & HHH back to TV. Remember, it wasn't Stephanie that "hired" Angle to be the new GM, it was Vince. The conflict of interest shall insue... leading to what I figured was going to be Angle's first (if not only) match against HHH.

Evil Vito 07-12-2017 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Theo Dious (Post 4990005)
Everything old is new again.

The difference is Bischoff was a great on-screen performer with enough name value and notoriety to offer something to the product. Dixie offers nothing.

GD 07-13-2017 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by rockman725 (Post 4990448)
I believe that this will involve Stephanie in some way. My guess is that they have a picture or some video footage from 2000 that wasn't used in the initial storyline that was (for story purposes) "leaked" or "stolen" which will bring Steph & HHH back to TV. Remember, it wasn't Stephanie that "hired" Angle to be the new GM, it was Vince. The conflict of interest shall insue... leading to what I figured was going to be Angle's first (if not only) match against HHH.

Stephanie with no makeup.


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