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Heisenberg 09-23-2013 09:47 AM

I had Todd main eventing in my lineup of characters since his debut, but it was hard to like him after the shooting of that young spectator.

If that didn't happen, I'd figure he'd pull away and get Lydia and we'd all cheer Meth Damon into the sun.


Keep thinking about the theme showing up at the end and the liquor that Walt left behind last night. They should of done a whole web show of his travel from New Hampshire to New Mexico to carry us into the finale, see what kind of food he ate before his final curtain call.

RoXer 09-23-2013 09:04 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>When King Lear dies in Act V, do you know what Shakespeare has written? He's written &quot;He dies.&quot; That's all, nothing more.&quot; (1 of 2)</p>&mdash; Damon Lindelof (@DamonLindelof) <a href="https://twitter.com/DamonLindelof/statuses/382186399614509056">September 23, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>&quot;No fanfare, no metaphor, no brilliant final words. The culmination of the most influential work of dramatic literature is &quot;He dies.&quot; (2of2)</p>&mdash; Damon Lindelof (@DamonLindelof) <a href="https://twitter.com/DamonLindelof/statuses/382186492442853376">September 23, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>The preceding quote, brought to you, of course, by Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23BreakingBad&amp;src=hash">#BreakingBad</a></p>&mdash; Damon Lindelof (@DamonLindelof) <a href="https://twitter.com/DamonLindelof/statuses/382186634877231104">September 23, 2013</a></blockquote>
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RoXer 09-23-2013 09:08 PM

Quote:

Damon Lindelof on Breaking Bad: How Heisenberg Is Like Batman

By Damon Lindelof

He was always Heisenberg.

I know this isn’t a revelation nor am I the first one to say it, but long before his tightie-whitie-clad first cook, Walter White was already breaking bad.

It’s pretty clear that Vince Gilligan and the brilliant storytellers around him don’t want us to reduce morality to binary terms — “good” and “evil” are simply magnetic poles that influence the actions of the characters caught between them. We’ve seen Walt do both generous things and horrible things … and we were certainly asked to believe that all of them were motivated by a single, seismic moment in his life. This moment was his origin story.

Now I’m going to go on a tangent about superheroes because, hey, I spend way too much money on comic books and I have to justify it somehow.

The conventional thinking is that Bruce Wayne became Batman on the day that his parents were murdered. This is his origin story. We all know it. We all accept it. We all love it. Because it makes sense. Your parents are gunned down in front of you, so of course you vow an unending vendetta against crime and then dress up like a winged mammal to exact it.

Except that’s not how Bruce Wayne became Batman.

Bruce Wayne was already Batman.

Because millions upon millions of people are murdered by criminals all the time — especially in comic books. But the sons and daughters of those people do not become Batman. But Bruce Wayne?

Bruce was different. There was something inside him. Lying dormant. He just needed something powerful enough to awaken it.

In chemical terms, this is called a catalyst.

I think it is, anyway. I kind of hated chemistry. I guess I could probably look up “catalyst” on Wikipedia, but I’m afraid it will mean something different than I think it means and therefore put me in a retroactive tailspin for having used it wrong all this time and more important, ruin my point. My point! Yes. There is one!

In the very first episode of this masterful show, Walter White is told he has advanced, inoperable, most likely fatal lung cancer. And in that moment, time slows down. Sound drops out. It is intense and it is effective and the reason we are starting here is because this is the start. The origin. The moment Walt begins his journey. The moment he becomes Heisenberg.

We know all this because Walt tells us so. The ticking time bomb that is the cancer becomes his rationale for everything that comes next; the lying, the lawbreaking, the child-poisoning.

But then the cancer goes away.

This is the equivalent of Bruce Wayne’s parents suddenly reappearing to him and saying, “We had to fake our deaths when you were a kid and we’ve been in witness protection all this time, and we’re so sorry, but the guy who shot us was actually an FBI agent helping us and he wasn’t even a criminal and we love you, so can we have our pearls back and NOW YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE BATMAN ANYMORE!!!”

But would Bruce stop being Batman?

No. He would not. Because he is Batman. And once the catalyst has … well, catalyzed? There is no going back.

And this is how I know the same is true with Walter White.

The first scene of the season-three finale, “Full Measures” is a flashback, which, as you might surmise, I have an affinity for. In this moment from the distant past, we see a newly married Walt and Skyler being shown a house by a real-estate agent. This house, of course, is the one they will end up living in for the next couple of decades, the one that will ultimately have the word “Heisenberg” scrawled across its living room wall. But Walt doesn’t know any of that yet.

So here’s your homework. Go and watch that scene. Hear Walter White’s voice as he frowns upon the modesty of the home he has not yet purchased. Look into Walter White’s eyes when he says, “I don’t think this is gonna be enough.” Is it ambition you see? Or is it something else? And while we’re at it ...

Let’s rewind. Let’s go back to the beginning of the scene. The first moments of the episode. Quiet. Moving off a single unlit log in a fireplace as we find the real-estate agent, standing in the empty living room, jotting notes on his pad, waiting for his potential clients.

And how do we know Walter White has arrived?

He’s the one who knocks.
http://www.vulture.com/2013/09/linde...is-batman.html

OssMan 09-23-2013 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoXer (Post 4305475)
Quote:

Damon Lindelof on Breaking Bad: How Heisenberg Is Like Batman

By Damon Lindelof

He was always Heisenberg.

I know this isn’t a revelation nor am I the first one to say it, but long before his tightie-whitie-clad first cook, Walter White was already breaking bad.

It’s pretty clear that Vince Gilligan and the brilliant storytellers around him don’t want us to reduce morality to binary terms — “good” and “evil” are simply magnetic poles that influence the actions of the characters caught between them. We’ve seen Walt do both generous things and horrible things … and we were certainly asked to believe that all of them were motivated by a single, seismic moment in his life. This moment was his origin story.

Now I’m going to go on a tangent about superheroes because, hey, I spend way too much money on comic books and I have to justify it somehow.

The conventional thinking is that Bruce Wayne became Batman on the day that his parents were murdered. This is his origin story. We all know it. We all accept it. We all love it. Because it makes sense. Your parents are gunned down in front of you, so of course you vow an unending vendetta against crime and then dress up like a winged mammal to exact it.

Except that’s not how Bruce Wayne became Batman.

Bruce Wayne was already Batman.

Because millions upon millions of people are murdered by criminals all the time — especially in comic books. But the sons and daughters of those people do not become Batman. But Bruce Wayne?

Bruce was different. There was something inside him. Lying dormant. He just needed something powerful enough to awaken it.

In chemical terms, this is called a catalyst.

I think it is, anyway. I kind of hated chemistry. I guess I could probably look up “catalyst” on Wikipedia, but I’m afraid it will mean something different than I think it means and therefore put me in a retroactive tailspin for having used it wrong all this time and more important, ruin my point. My point! Yes. There is one!

In the very first episode of this masterful show, Walter White is told he has advanced, inoperable, most likely fatal lung cancer. And in that moment, time slows down. Sound drops out. It is intense and it is effective and the reason we are starting here is because this is the start. The origin. The moment Walt begins his journey. The moment he becomes Heisenberg.

We know all this because Walt tells us so. The ticking time bomb that is the cancer becomes his rationale for everything that comes next; the lying, the lawbreaking, the child-poisoning.

But then the cancer goes away.

This is the equivalent of Bruce Wayne’s parents suddenly reappearing to him and saying, “We had to fake our deaths when you were a kid and we’ve been in witness protection all this time, and we’re so sorry, but the guy who shot us was actually an FBI agent helping us and he wasn’t even a criminal and we love you, so can we have our pearls back and NOW YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE BATMAN ANYMORE!!!”

But would Bruce stop being Batman?

No. He would not. Because he is Batman. And once the catalyst has … well, catalyzed? There is no going back.

And this is how I know the same is true with Walter White.

The first scene of the season-three finale, “Full Measures” is a flashback, which, as you might surmise, I have an affinity for. In this moment from the distant past, we see a newly married Walt and Skyler being shown a house by a real-estate agent. This house, of course, is the one they will end up living in for the next couple of decades, the one that will ultimately have the word “Heisenberg” scrawled across its living room wall. But Walt doesn’t know any of that yet.

So here’s your homework. Go and watch that scene. Hear Walter White’s voice as he frowns upon the modesty of the home he has not yet purchased. Look into Walter White’s eyes when he says, “I don’t think this is gonna be enough.” Is it ambition you see? Or is it something else? And while we’re at it ...

Let’s rewind. Let’s go back to the beginning of the scene. The first moments of the episode. Quiet. Moving off a single unlit log in a fireplace as we find the real-estate agent, standing in the empty living room, jotting notes on his pad, waiting for his potential clients.

And how do we know Walter White has arrived?

He’s the one who knocks.
http://www.vulture.com/2013/09/linde...is-batman.html

Wait a damn moment- you are NOT Batman.

Frank Drebin 09-23-2013 11:20 PM

Fuck Damon Lindelof

Lock Jaw 09-24-2013 02:02 AM

Dexter series finale spoiler:

SPOILER: show
What if Beard Dexter shows up to kill Beard Heisenberg?

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1369046/th...-BAD-570.jpg?6

Crimson 09-24-2013 10:42 PM

Then Todd looks on in amazement and volunteers as Dex's protege

Triple A 09-25-2013 06:16 PM

http://25.media.tumblr.com/261080720...kbro1_1280.jpg

http://paulscheer.com/post/622290491...n-breaking-bad

DrA 09-25-2013 06:29 PM

I figured out a lot of those on my own but the picture does clear up some questions I had about things that happened in other episodes.

Innovator 09-25-2013 07:26 PM

The picture forgets the space where the "tableside guacamole" should be.

Razzamajazz 09-25-2013 08:04 PM

lol "represents how much i want to suck those titties" is that vince gilligan's intent?

weather vane 09-25-2013 09:19 PM

Titty city

OssMan 09-28-2013 08:20 PM

What is this

http://i.imgur.com/hoAX1zy.jpg

Corporate CockSnogger 09-28-2013 08:32 PM

Bladerunner

Ultra Mantis 09-28-2013 08:45 PM

Walter White is the origami killer.

Lock Jaw 09-28-2013 11:37 PM

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/TiI3y15b4TA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

weather vane 09-29-2013 12:50 AM

Cant wait!!!!!!!!11111

weather vane 09-29-2013 12:52 AM

กกกกกกกก

OssMan 09-29-2013 02:19 AM

Ohhh I get it. It means Walt is a replicant

weather vane 09-29-2013 08:31 PM

28 minutes

Innovator 09-29-2013 08:59 PM

Watching the Giants these last 4 weeks have prepared me for this finale.

weather vane 09-29-2013 10:19 PM

Wow.

dronepool 09-29-2013 10:58 PM

Sad to see it end.

Triple A 09-29-2013 11:58 PM

"Perfect" last ep probably in terms of wrapping everything up. Sweet ass show...

Lock Jaw 09-30-2013 12:03 AM

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...44349917_n.jpg

Lock Jaw 09-30-2013 12:07 AM

But yeah, I loved the ending. Walt finally seemed to "accept everything". Admitting he did it because he liked it... saving Jesse in the end... great stuff. Still a badass, though. That scene with Gretchen and Elliot was "hardcore".

The only possible thing I could say "negative" is that I wanted more from Jesse. I mean, it was beautiful in a way that after all they had been through... words didn't really need to be said... they both just understood.

I want a Jesse spinoff-movie/mini series just telling us what he is up to post-Breaking Bad.

Triple A 09-30-2013 12:10 AM

Kept imagining Jay Leno instead of Jimmy Kimmel on Talking Bad, seemed "hilarious" to me

Triple A 09-30-2013 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4308281)
I want a Jesse spinoff-movie/mini series just telling us what he is up to post-Breaking Bad.

Need For Speed movie

weather vane 09-30-2013 12:17 AM

Cant believe you deleted that picture of the cock I posted. That's gay. You're gay.

That was Walts cock man. Totally pertains to this thread.

slik 09-30-2013 12:38 AM

Really enjoyed the final episode.

OssMan 09-30-2013 01:13 AM

Walt Jr, Holly and Skyler live on with people watching them

Marie too

Lydia's child becomes orphaned, marries Brock due to bonding over parents being murdered(???)

Skinny Pete and Badger keep smoking meth

Jesse just dips out I guess

Gretchen and Elliott live the rest of their lives in fear

RoXer 09-30-2013 03:01 AM

Does Jesse has money? I guess not.

Just drives off into the (probably awful) Need For Speed movie.

Corporate CockSnogger 09-30-2013 06:10 AM

Sweet ending. I hope Todd got to bang Lydia like he always wanted. Feel like they insinuated they were officially boning buddies in that cafe scene.

Razzamajazz 09-30-2013 09:13 AM

he's banging her in heaven now

weather vane 09-30-2013 09:36 AM

HELL

Heisenberg 09-30-2013 09:50 AM

If they threw most of the cast into another show/movie I'd be ok with that.

I thought a lot of the interactions Walt had in that episode was going to lead to someone turning on him or trapping him.

Damn, that show was books

Lock Jaw 09-30-2013 01:38 PM

Thought when Walt was in the lab at the end and he was looking down and smiling at something, I thought it was gonna be some blue meth, and he was gonna finally give the product a try. Then he would be all like "Tight! Tight tight tight! Yeah!", and then he would fall and die.

Heisenberg 09-30-2013 01:40 PM

Aww Season 2 Ep 1 TIGHT TIGHT TIGHT!!!

The Destroyer 09-30-2013 03:55 PM

Sad to see it over and done with but I really, really liked it.

Couldn't really have ended without Walt dying.

Zelda 09-30-2013 05:05 PM

My expectations were so high and I was not even disappointed. I really enjoyed the Elliott and Gretchen scene.


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