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Bad News Gertner 06-25-2013 05:40 PM

NHL Thread
 
Bryz gets bought out by Philly. Lol Flyers just can't catch a break in net.

Leafs apparently going to buy out Komisarek.


Soooooooooo jacked about the NHL draft. Avs are retarded if they don't take Seth Jones.

screech 06-25-2013 05:43 PM

Ton of money to pay a guy to stay away, but had to be done. I don't think he would have lasted much longer. Fans soured on him and apparently a lot of players did also.

Skippord 06-25-2013 10:42 PM

Nathan MacKINNONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

or somebody else, probably. Maybe Barkov

Arashi Kage 06-26-2013 12:10 AM

It'll be interesting to see how the Rangers and Canuckleheads do next season with this coaching swap.

I really like AV, and I know that I'm not alone in saying that Gillis should have been sent out of Vancouver instead.

Bad News Gertner 06-26-2013 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 4231962)
Nathan MacKINNONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

or somebody else, probably. Maybe Barkov

Lol gonna be funny when Jan Hejda playing on the first team powerplay because the Avs have zero puck moving D.

Skippord 06-26-2013 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4232051)
Lol gonna be funny when Jan Hejda playing on the first team powerplay because the Avs have zero puck moving D.

They'll probably have Tyson Barrie do it, he seemed better last year. Or they'll just go with Ryan O'Reilly running the point since they seem to like to hang him out to dry at any opportunity.

Although my understanding is that Seth Jones isn't very good defensively so I'm cool with them not drafting him.

Skippord 06-26-2013 12:41 AM

and I'm a pretty firm believer in drafting the best player available

Bad News Gertner 06-26-2013 12:48 AM

I remember saying this about the Oilers years ago when they were shit "stop drafting forwards when your defence is horseshit" Look where they are at. 4 years later and their defense is a friggen mess.

The Avs D scored 3 goals all season. That's awful. Seth Jones addressing more of a need than MacKinnon does.

Skippord 06-26-2013 12:50 AM

ideally they'd trade Paul Stasny for some sort of defensemen, but Paul Stasny kind of sucks so I don't know what they're planning on.

Ray Borque is totally gonna come back

Bad News Gertner 06-26-2013 12:51 AM

I heard Stastny for Dion Phaneuf has been knocked around a bit.

Skippord 06-26-2013 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4232062)
I heard Stastny for Dion Phaneuf has been knocked around a bit.

I would love for them to do that, but it makes sense for them to so I doubt they will.

The Avs are a real enigma

Bad News Gertner 06-26-2013 12:58 AM

I don't know why teams neglect defense. It baffles me.

I knew Boston was going to destroy Pittsburgh because Pittsburgh threw all their chips on Morrow, Iginla and Jokinen, and added nothing to their defense, besides slow ass Doug Murray


Edmonton currently has Hall, Eberle, Hemsky, Gagner, MSP, Horcoff, RNH, and they won't win shit.


Their current top 4 defense are Anton Belov who they signed out of the KHL and has yet to play a single game, Nick Schultz who is a nice bottom pairing guy, Justin Schultz who I love and Jeff Petry. Smid is meh and I guess Mark Fistric is the 6th by default


That is atrocious, and that's what you get for constantly spending high picks on forwards and neglecting the real need. They have a ton of $ tied of with their forwards, have a cheap d core and still don't have a #1 goaltender.

Bad News Gertner 06-26-2013 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 4232063)
I would love for them to do that, but it makes sense for them to so I doubt they will.

The Avs are a real enigma

I wouldn't be excited about it. Dion's fine. He's just not that #1 guy that Toronto has labelled him as. Plays far too much.

Skippord 06-26-2013 01:02 AM

Justin Schultz is pretty great

I'm of the opinion that the Avs are right to draft Nathan MacKinnon if they do because it takes so long for defensemen to develop into impact players and apparently all number one drafted defensemen turn out to be awful, but if they're bluffing and take Jones I'm fine with it.

Bad News Gertner 06-26-2013 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 4232070)
Justin Schultz is pretty great

I'm of the opinion that the Avs are right to draft Nathan MacKinnon if they do because it takes so long for defensemen to develop into impact players and apparently all number one drafted defensemen turn out to be awful, but if they're bluffing and take Jones I'm fine with it.

Avs aren't winning anytime soon. They can afford to wait. Seth Jones is possibly the best d prospect since Chris Pronger.



Btw, loooooooove Barkov.

Skippord 06-26-2013 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4232067)
I wouldn't be excited about it. Dion's fine. He's just not that #1 guy that Toronto has labelled him as. Plays far too much.

I'm not the biggest Paul Stastny fan so I'd be more into it for the purposes of getting a serviceable defensemen out of a guy who seems to be in a huge rut here.

Skippord 06-26-2013 01:04 AM

and I could also meet Elisha Cuthbert

Skippord 06-26-2013 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4232071)
Avs aren't winning anytime soon. They can afford to wait.

That's probably true, you have to factor in Patrick Roy being a lunatic who will probably kill himself if they don't win though and give him the best chance I guess.

Bad News Gertner 06-26-2013 01:11 AM

Here's the problem with some of the defense I've noticed who get drafted high and flame out.

Like you said, it takes a bit longer for a defenceman to develop. Lots of different nuances to the game.


Luke Schenn, Zack Bogosian, Victor Hedman, all got rushed to the NHL straight out of the draft, when they should have spent more time in Junior. If a young defenseman's confidence gets ruined by getting burned by a forward it shows more. Nobody is patient anymore.

Skippord 06-26-2013 01:21 AM

Yeah that's probably the biggest problem

And the fact that it's easier to quantify how successful forwards are since they score the majority of the points and aren't as responsible for any defensive mistakes.

Bad News Gertner 06-26-2013 01:53 AM

If Furcale somehow drops in the first round if I'm the Avs id be exploring into gettinga late first round pick.

Bad News Gertner 06-26-2013 01:57 AM

Lol did I ever say how much I fucking love the NHL draft. I buy up all the hockey draft mags every years and read tons of mock drafts and scouting report each year. Toronto picks at 21. Thinking maybe they draft Gauthier who is a center out of the QMHL. They are pretty deep at defence in terms of spects in Rielly, Finn, Percy and Blacker. Deep draft this year so they should be able to get a good player.

Skippord 06-26-2013 02:03 AM

I love all drafts to a ridiculous degree

NBA Network has been running old NBA drafts and I've been watching all of them because I am a weirdo

Blitz 06-26-2013 02:10 AM

I'm just hoping the Leafs don't blow up the team. Make some moves, but don't blow it up.

Cautiously optimistic about the Bernier deal.

Skippord 06-26-2013 02:13 AM

Kadri for Stastny

WHO SAYS NO!?

Skippord 06-26-2013 02:15 AM

that's for my dream "Nothing but Centers" Avs lineup

Skippord 06-26-2013 02:19 AM

watching TSN's draft ranking special now

so very Canadian

Skippord 06-26-2013 02:28 AM

I'd be cool with the Avs drafting Rasmus Ristolainen because it's the coolest name I've ever heard

Skippord 06-28-2013 12:27 AM

TANGERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Bad News Gertner 06-28-2013 12:32 AM

Lol yeah they are definitely taking MacKinnon

Skippord 06-28-2013 12:46 AM

I look forward to watching him

although I'm pretty sure they'll be picking fairly high again next year

Skippord 06-30-2013 03:49 PM

NATEMACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK

#NOTHINGBUTCENTERS

Blitz 06-30-2013 04:00 PM

Cory Schneider to New Jersey for the 9th pick. Damn. Pretty cheap.

Bad News Gertner 06-30-2013 04:22 PM

Not a fan of Horvat. Weird trade for Vancouver. Surprised they didn't get more.

Bad News Gertner 06-30-2013 04:23 PM

Friggen love the NHL draft!

Evil Vito 06-30-2013 04:24 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Fucking Cal Clutterbuck.</font>

Bad News Gertner 06-30-2013 04:25 PM

Love Cal Clutterbuck

Bad News Gertner 06-30-2013 04:27 PM

Can't believe Seth jones fell to 4. Nashville's defense is disgusting: Weber, Josi, Klein, Jones, Ellis, Bartley.

Evil Vito 06-30-2013 04:28 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Garth's gotta get a goalie. Somehow, someway.</font>

Bad News Gertner 06-30-2013 04:34 PM

Zach Furcale is gonna get picked by the Isles.

Evil Vito 06-30-2013 04:40 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Oh fuck you Garth. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO</font>

Bad News Gertner 06-30-2013 04:40 PM

Good pick by Isles

Evil Vito 06-30-2013 04:42 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Pulock is ok. But I wanted Fucale. Especially since the Islanders literally used every pick on defensemen last year.</font>

Bad News Gertner 06-30-2013 04:52 PM

They are drafting smart. Reinhart, Hamonic, Pullock, De Haan, MacDonald are a friggen solid core. Defence wins you games.

Bad News Gertner 06-30-2013 09:34 PM

Leafs grab my guy Gauthier and trade for David Bolland! Hell fucking yes.

Evil Vito 07-01-2013 12:25 AM

<font color=goldenrod>I still really wanted the Islanders to take Fucale. That's no knock on Pulock, who I think can be very good - I just feel the Isles already have a lot of depth at defense and they very much need to get a goalie of the future. Also a bit disappointed with giving up on Niederreiter so early. I know his agent had asked for a trade, but he was still young so I would have like for them to have tried and smoothed things over. The Islanders had a good offense last year, but they don't have much organizational offensive depth if people get hurt.</font>

Bad News Gertner 07-01-2013 12:42 AM

You can never have too much depth on defence. Teams covet it. Plus it can easily be dealt for an established goaltender.

It only cost the Leafs a 2nd and Matt Frattin/Ben Scrivens for Jonathan Bernier.

Emperor Smeat 07-01-2013 10:49 PM

Islanders bought out Rick DiPietro's contract today. ESPN compared that horrible contract to another from MLB.

Guaranteed about $1.5 million per year but won't count against the cap for the Islanders.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOIuM1fCIAIw_xn.jpg

Bad News Gertner 07-01-2013 10:54 PM

That is friggen ridiculous. Lol he'll be 47 by the time that's done.

Ermaximus 07-01-2013 11:02 PM

Dear Panthers, Get Better Please!

Bad News Gertner 07-01-2013 11:15 PM

Barkov and Huberdeau are going to be incredible together.

Ermaximus 07-01-2013 11:19 PM

Huberdeau is pretty badass.

XCaliber 07-03-2013 06:56 PM

Not sure I like the idea of Daniel Alfredsson heading to the Boston Bruins.

Bad News Gertner 07-04-2013 04:07 AM

Jarrett Stoll of the Kings suffered a seizure at his home. Pretty scary.

Emperor Smeat 07-04-2013 04:00 PM

Bs-Stars pulled off a big 7-player trade today.

Bs get:
Loui Eriksson
Reilly Smith (prospect)
Matt Fraser (prospect)
Joe Morrow (prospect)

Stars get:
Tyler Seguin
Rich Peverley
Ryan Button

Bs had hinted going into the offseason they wouldn't have been able to keep Peverly for next season because the cap is too tight. Seguin getting traded was more due to him being owed too much money and some off-ice concerns more than him having a bit of a down year in terms of expectations.

Stars are going to benefit a lot with Seguin as long as they can quickly settle the issues with his off-ice stuff.

Bad News Gertner 07-04-2013 05:29 PM

That is friggen nuts.

RoXer 07-04-2013 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4236898)
Matt Fraser (prospect)

The Frase

Emperor Smeat 07-05-2013 01:44 PM

Daniel Alfredsson signed a 1-year deal with the Red Wings.

Nathan Horton signed a 7-year, $37.1 million deal with the Blue Jackets.

Blitz 07-05-2013 01:59 PM

I feel like the moves the Leafs are making are either gonna be extremely good or extremely bad.

weather vane 07-05-2013 02:02 PM

Chiarelli better fucking do something here.

Bad News Gertner 07-05-2013 02:19 PM

Steve Dangle whose Leafs podcast had a great line

The good news is, the Leafs have a lot of money to spend
The bad news is, the Leafs have a lot of money to spend.

Loooooove Clarkson. Big part of me wants Matt Cooke. Can you imagine the douchebag line of
Cooke-Bolland-Clarkson

Blitz 07-05-2013 02:22 PM

I feel like there's enough toughness now without Cooke. Another proven goal scorer would be nice, but I feel like they're likely done for the most part.

Blitz 07-05-2013 02:24 PM

Saw the cover of the Toronto Sun today was like "Thanks, Boston!" for trading Tyler Seguin. Like what fucking sense does that make? He's still a great player we don't have.

Bad News Gertner 07-05-2013 02:25 PM

The Toronto Sun honestly writes like a bitter Leafs fan.

Bad News Gertner 07-05-2013 02:25 PM

Cooke is a fantastic penalty killer

Skippord 07-05-2013 02:31 PM

Free Agency Day? More like stare at a wall and be disappointed by the Avalanche day

although I don't know who they would've signed this year anyway

Bad News Gertner 07-05-2013 02:33 PM

Lol that defense is rough. They gotta do something.

Skippord 07-05-2013 02:35 PM

I would probably throw some offer sheets out there

Winnipeg has 4 million RFA's so offer Zach Bogosian something or something. Or Alex Pietrangelo from St. Louis.

Skippord 07-05-2013 03:04 PM

why do they have this group of old dickheads talking about Daniel Alfredsson on this TV show?

Bad News Gertner 07-05-2013 03:05 PM

You need your picks. That'd cost you multiple first rounders. The Avs are a couple years away.

Bad News Gertner 07-05-2013 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 4237416)
why do they have this group of old dickheads talking about Daniel Alfredsson on this TV show?

Lol which show? I can't believe Alfie went to a division rival.

Skippord 07-05-2013 03:07 PM

That's true, although I do love me some Pietrangelo

I actually thought they didn't have a first round pick this year anyway, but apparently they do. So that's good to know.

Skippord 07-05-2013 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4237418)
Lol which show? I can't believe Alfie went to a division rival.

The Free Agent Frenzy show on TSN. They have a bunch of Canadian Sportswriters talking about Alfredsson and shitting on Tyler Bozak

(NHL Network here, but I assume that's TSN in Canada)

Blitz 07-05-2013 03:15 PM

Fucking stupid tennis delaying Free Agent Frenzy on TSN. Reduced to watching The Score over here.

Bad News Gertner 07-05-2013 03:17 PM

The Tim and Sid show is pretty solid. If I'm up early I watch them.

Skippord 07-05-2013 03:17 PM

Pierre McGuire is a slit away from having a straight up penis head

Bad News Gertner 07-05-2013 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 4237423)
The Free Agent Frenzy show on TSN. They have a bunch of Canadian Sportswriters talking about Alfredsson and shitting on Tyler Bozak

(NHL Network here, but I assume that's TSN in Canada)

Yeah, we take the free agent day and trade deadline VERY seriously up here in Canada lol

Skippord 07-05-2013 03:20 PM

I feel like they should hire at least one interesting person for this next year

Bad News Gertner 07-05-2013 03:22 PM

Who's on the panel? Bob McKenzie usually does it and he's always good as is Dreger.

Skippord 07-05-2013 03:23 PM

the best part of this is the reporters in the background huddled up and tweeting

Bad News Gertner 07-05-2013 03:23 PM

Pierre McGuire is one step below Don Cherry in terms of ridiculous. LOVES his Western Canadian guys.

Bad News Gertner 07-05-2013 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 4237434)
the best part of this is the reporters in the background huddled up and tweeting

It's almost at the level of National Signing Day for college football in the U.S.A

Skippord 07-05-2013 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4237433)
Who's on the panel? Bob McKenzie usually does it and he's always good as is Dreger.

There's 3 different panels

one is Ray Ferraro, James Duthie, Pierre McGuire, and some dude I don't know

one is Darren Dreger, Bob McKenzie, Craig Button, and a host who I don't know. And Darren Dreger left so now it's Jeff O'Neil I think

and those reporters who I do not know

Skippord 07-05-2013 03:26 PM

they should just have Doc Emrick shouting out every free agency signing

he is the best

Bad News Gertner 07-05-2013 03:26 PM

I like Ray Ferrero, James Duthie is meh, Craig Button really knows his shit, McGuire is an idiot. You have to hear Pierre during the World Juniors. He makes games unwatchable. Jeff O'Neill is a delusional idiot.

Skippord 07-05-2013 03:26 PM

all the other networks should do something like this

Skippord 07-05-2013 03:27 PM

I also like Ray Ferraro. hate Craig Button though

Skippord 07-05-2013 03:28 PM

they could also have Kathryn Tappen do something, because I want to fuck her

Bad News Gertner 07-05-2013 03:28 PM

Next to Jim Hughson and Rick Jeanneret, Doc Emirck is my favourite. Was a huge Bob Cole fan, but he needs to go.

Bad News Gertner 07-05-2013 03:29 PM

Sportsnet does this too but not as well.

Ermaximus 07-05-2013 03:29 PM

Hey Skippord, remember when the Avs beat the Panthers for the Stanley Cup? :(

Skippord 07-05-2013 03:29 PM

Apparently the Senators have acquired Bobby Ryan

Bad News Gertner 07-05-2013 03:30 PM

CBC has Andy Petrillo. She used to be on LeafsTV. She's a little spinner. Pretty cute.

Skippord 07-05-2013 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ermaximus (Post 4237447)
Hey Skippord, remember when the Avs beat the Panthers for the Stanley Cup? :(

Incredibly vaguely

although I watch it any time the replay it

Skippord 07-05-2013 03:31 PM

Doc Emrick's my favorite for all the weird shit he says

Also for bringing the word skittered back

Blitz 07-05-2013 03:31 PM

I adore Pierre McGuire and anyone who doesn't is stupid.

Bad News Gertner 07-05-2013 03:31 PM

Tampa signs Fillipula. Solid signing although I always expected more.

Skippord 07-05-2013 03:31 PM

that lady is quite attractive

Skippord 07-05-2013 03:34 PM

I miss Ray Ferraro on ESPN, on a related note I miss hockey being mentioned on ESPN

Bad News Gertner 07-05-2013 03:34 PM

Avs were a fucking beast back then. God were they ever good. They had everything.
Sakic
Claude
Forsberg
Roy
Sandis and Sylvain were incredible together

Their role players were awesome is Keane, Ricci

Sens just robbed the Ducks. Silverberg, Noesen and a 1st.


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