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hb2k 06-20-2017 09:41 AM

Expected WWE Title Scenario
 
Here's a scenario.

Cena's back. He's defending our American honor (no 'u') on Independence Day, and wants to face Jinder Mahal. To bring the belt back where it fucking belongs, in the U the S and the A. He wants to break the record of 16 title wins by taking the belt off Jinder and restoring it's value.

They do it the match on some PPV. Flair in the crowd watching. Cena wins. Big celebration. Fireworks, confetti, all the babyfaces come out to applaud. Announcers stand up and take off the headsets to applaud. History has been made.

Then Baron Corbin comes out, wipes his dick on it all and wins the belt immediately.

I fully expect this to happen. My question - is this great heat that gets Corbin over as a reviled, hated heel, or vomit-worthy because of the guy involved?

Big Vic 06-20-2017 09:44 AM

I read that as Corbin literally wiping his dick on the belt.

hb2k 06-20-2017 09:46 AM

He can do that too.

Big Vic 06-20-2017 09:47 AM

I don't like that however If Cena is to break the record his 17th reign should be a long one. Really hate <1day reigns.

Emperor Smeat 06-20-2017 03:50 PM

The idea of Corbin ruining a very memorable moment and celebration is really great but at the same time you have the problem of another really important Cena title reign treated as an afterthought.

Cena's record tying reign ended up being a big waste and same for the record breaking reign in this situation.

DAMN iNATOR 06-20-2017 05:18 PM

Cena should never be anywhere NEAR the WWE Championship or the Universal title ever again. It's time for him to be solely focused on putting over new talent, not holding them back.

Savio 06-20-2017 07:31 PM

Yeah but he is still a big draw.

DAMN iNATOR 06-20-2017 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Savio (Post 4982520)
Yeah but he is still a big draw.

I'm not arguing he isn't, but if he's not putting over talent that will form the future big names in the company, what's the point of putting him on TV at all? Give him 5 or 10 years doing that and then have him retire. Simple.

Sting Fan 06-21-2017 02:28 AM

I change the Chanel when Baron Corban comes out, everything about him screams CAW to me. The entrance music, his look, even the name just feels like generic wrestler #3 in a video game.

XL 06-21-2017 04:21 AM

I'd like them to do a big build behind Corbin before he cashes in as he's not really over. I'd also like him to improve by about 100% but that's probably wishful thinking.

Mr. Nerfect 06-22-2017 07:52 AM

I can see this being the route they go, but I don't think it gets real heat. It might get booed, but not in the way they really want it to. They don't book to real heat anymore and it'll just feel deflating.

I was thinking about Corbin last night (not wiping my dick on any belt), and he just doesn't feel like he's fully cooked yet. In the ring, eh, I still find him boring, but I don't hate all his matches. There has even been one occasion where he has arguably had match of the night (TLC 2016 with Kalisto). You just can't trust him to lead, and they seem to want to put him in a lead position.

But his gimmick is where it all really falls down for me. He's got this "Lone Wolf" stuff that feels like it was saddled to him as a level-one gimmick in NXT, and they've just kept pushing him, even though it should probably be considered a misfire. The better stuff from him has come out of his "I'm a winner" attitude -- his to-the-point smark on Talking Smack and in the videos hyping his programs with Aries (and maybe Joe -- I honestly can't remember it that clearly).

The browns and grays his wears -- he's just so dull. The dude needs some sort of makeover to help bring more out of him. In my opinion, anyway. He's just...bleak. It's all so bleak. I don't think the answer is to put him in bright yellow or anything, but there's got to be something more they can do to make him seem less dreary.

In this weird sort of way, he reminds me of early Undertaker. In terms of his build and the athleticism he has, but doesn't really know how to put into context on his own yet. If Undertaker had come in to WWF and just been "Mean Mark the Loner," I doubt he would have gotten in the same way that he did. He could have still been pushed to the WWF Title, but it wouldn't have been the success he was. Baron Corbin needs something like that, masking that he's not really all there as a performer yet. I just don't know what it is.

Coming out of Money in the Bank, I'm wondering if the programs are going to be AJ/Dolph, Owens/Zayn and Corbin/Nakamura. At first Corbin/Nakamura sounds a bit dull to me. I don't really know what to expect from them in the ring, but both are in the position where they've got something to prove. I can see Corbin following Naks' lead and really busting ass to have the style of match that each really needs to show they belong on that big stage. It could also be a clunky uncoordinated mess. But if Nakamura is going to be a WWE guy, then he needs to be able to work with WWE guys, I guess.

In my perfect world, Nakamura would win the briefcase from Corbin. I think he gets something from winning the Ladder Match that doesn't necessitate the cash-in. That being said, going all-in with Corbin, I'd have him and Nakamura fight, with the finish ideally being Corbin's End of Days countered into an arm breaker from Nakamura. Corbin turns it into a pin with his weight holding down Nakamura's shoulders. A good way to give Corbin a win that looks a little more polished than his usual "Corbin wins" finish, and allows Nakamura some grace in barely being trounced. Corbin would be all bragging going in, and now he gets to plunk that briefcase down on the Talking Smack desk and brag about how he...well, barely squeaked one out over Nakamura. But he did win -- and from that you can rinse real heat.

I just wish they weren't all-in with him. I still think the best role for him is a little run as a babyface in a tag team with a smaller guy. You can set it up with that babyface getting a few flash pins over him in singles matches. Corbin begins to visibly "lose confidence." Corbin comes out and gives the babyface kudos. In a twist, Corbin's losses have actually been humbling for the "world class athlete." He offers a hand shake and we're not really sure if we can trust Corbin. It leads to tag matches where you're waiting for the Corbin heel turn, but he accepts the hot tag every time, kicking ass and helping his new partner clean up. When he's a bit more seasoned, you can obviously do the heel turn, or just have someone else take out his partner and push Corbin as a babyface against them. I just don't feel this guy as top heel talent right now.

Blonde Moment 06-22-2017 09:02 AM

Corbin/Nakamura if for no other reason than I think that Nakamura can make Corbin look good and maybe teach him some things along the way.

Mr. Nerfect 06-22-2017 08:04 PM

Make him look good is subjective, but I do think it would be a great learning experience for Corbin. He seems to have a good "attitude" for coaching. I can see him sponging up more of the experience, but come out less talented than someone who wouldn't get as much, but can do more with that little.

It doesn't enthuse me, but at the same time, I think I might be underrating Nakamura.

Mr. Nerfect 06-22-2017 08:07 PM

Another thing with the Corbin title win from Cena: It feels like they've just been giving that belt to random guys for the first time lately. Ambrose has his first reign and then dropped it to Styles. Now, I liked the Styles reign, but he drops it back to Cena, who then loses it to Bray, to transfer it to Orton, who has since dropped it to Mahal for the first time. It's just starting to feeling like every reign has the same intention behind it -- give everybody a turn.

Corbin could, realistically, hold the belt heading into WrestleMania though. I don't know who he would face, but I can't think of a big singles match for him without the belt either. So Brock vs. Reigns would headline and Corbin would be the mid-card World Title match.


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