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Evil Vito 01-17-2017 12:46 PM

Shibata might be in deep shit. A woman is posting various pictures and chatlogs on Twitter claiming that Shibata (who is a married man) had an affair with her.

In the US it'd be whatever, but in Japan there is an expectation that celebrities that get caught up in moral scandals be punished and publicly shamed for it. NJPW have suspended wrestlers for similar transgressions in the past.

Evil Vito 01-17-2017 12:48 PM

Supposedly Shibata's only signed through March as well. Should these allegations end up being true, they might allow his contract to expire and let him go back to being a freelancer.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-17-2017 12:49 PM

Hey, WWE could get him. Their top guy is an adulterer!

https://media.giphy.com/media/8ioMpseLlvQC4/giphy.gif

Evil Vito 01-17-2017 01:02 PM

If WWE have read my 2017 Royal Rumble fantasy booking, I should add to it that I'd love to see The Miz introduce Shibata as his silent bodyguard who can just standing there looking menacing in a suit and Penalty Kick anyone who steps out of line.

Droford 01-17-2017 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 4914836)
I may travel from NYC to Philly for this

Keep in mind when they did this the last time it sold so well that they expanded it to 2 nights AND WWE got involved and did 2 nights if NXT shows (which at the time NXT had just started touring so it was a big deal.

Gen public tix sales are Friday at 10 am

Mr. Nerfect 01-19-2017 06:07 AM

Shibata would be a great signing for the WWE. The dude's got a "vibe" that could work. I actually like the idea of him being a bodyguard for The Miz. Could help him "get over" to audiences who don't give a shit about puroresu. It's doubtful he will ever be the guy in New Japan because they are still butt-hurt about him leaving while Tanahashi and Nakamura stayed.

Damian Rey 2.0 01-19-2017 04:37 PM

Pretty much any non English speaking foreigner wouldn't be a good signing for WWE unless it's nxt only.

Hard to get over when you can't cut a promo and the reality is it's unlikely they give him a mouthpiece.

Mr. Nerfect 01-20-2017 05:56 PM

Completely disagree. A guy that doesn't talk is MORE likely to get over in today's WWE, because it's fresh, interesting and will help him stand-out from the pack. The kiss of death is if they have him start speaking Engrish. Unless he's got some sort of conviction behind it that makes him sound deadly.

I'd like to see them give him video packages with him speaking in Japanese with subtitles, personally. Or just hand his segments off to Heyman to produce, since he will know what to do. Hell, Brock as Heyman's RAW guy and Shibata as Heyman's SmackDown guy could work.

Damian Rey 2.0 01-20-2017 09:06 PM

Let's be realistic. Heyman managing anyone other than Lesnar is extremely unlikely.

Shibata coming over and getting over without talking and while having his in ring style watered down heavily is highly unlikely. It COULD work, if he's part of a faction. But as a lone competitor who doesn't talk? I can't see that working anywhere but nxt.

Mr. Nerfect 01-21-2017 10:23 PM

Being realistic, the chances that anyone gets over at all is highly unlikely, unless it is ironic because they're not supposed to be over. AJ Styles is like the only guy.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-26-2017 05:22 AM

Omega is making an announcement tomorrow, was doing a Q&A in the UK and was teasing going to WWE saying that he probably "wouldn't be able to pull a rabbit out of the hat" when someone said "see you Sunday". Clearly working people I think, but there are reports he's been offered $1million per year by WWE.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-27-2017 03:41 AM

Omegas signed on for another year

#BROKEN Hasney 02-03-2017 03:18 PM

All ready for New Beginning!

http://i.imgur.com/eb1tVc2l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nBk6AlCl.jpg

Destor 02-03-2017 07:39 PM

I wish this app were available through logical channels

Emperor Smeat 02-03-2017 10:05 PM

If WWE ever wanted to sign Kazuchika Okada to a deal, they likely would be looking at something over $2 million per year to make it even possible. Amount is based on his current deal and what NJPW has been spending building him up as their new "Ace" or mega star.

Got revealed during a recent article Vice had about Kenny Omega.

https://sports.vice.com/ca/article/k...ling-superstar

Mr. Nerfect 02-04-2017 02:28 AM

Styles/Cena was a better match than Okada/Omega. Fight me.

Damian Rey 2.0 02-04-2017 02:55 AM

You're entitled to your opinion Noid. I don't know why you're being so confrontational. This is a place of love.

Mr. Nerfect 02-05-2017 01:37 AM

What if I told you that I have evidence this was a measurable fact?

Damian Rey 2.0 02-05-2017 01:45 AM

I'd say it's still your opinion and be skeptical of "measureable facts" for wrestling

#BROKEN Hasney 02-05-2017 04:29 AM

It'll have to wait anyway, Suzuki is currently besting the ever loving shit out of Okada.

#BROKEN Hasney 02-05-2017 04:57 AM

That started out great but it turned fucking stupid. Okada is basically their Cena and Jesus Christ that was as bad as Cena V Nexus

#BROKEN Hasney 02-05-2017 05:00 AM

...Oh my. Okada just challenged Ibushi out of nowhere.

Because Gedo is such a WWE mark at booking this shit, this could be like when Cena picked Bryan as his opponent.

#BROKEN Hasney 02-05-2017 05:03 AM

Except Bryan in this scenario is from an anime and wears a tiger mask.

Jordan 02-05-2017 08:20 AM

Damn I fell asleep and didn't see hardly anything.

Mr. Nerfect 02-05-2017 10:15 PM

Is he challenging Ibushi as in Kota Ibushi, or Ibushi as in Tiger Mask W or whatever it is Ibushi?

#BROKEN Hasney 02-06-2017 01:49 AM

He's challenging Tiger Mask because you probably can't get Ibushi out of it.

Mr. Nerfect 02-06-2017 08:32 AM

Hopefully it is a good match anyway.

#BROKEN Hasney 02-06-2017 08:57 AM

Translation from someone on Reddit from a couple of the promos

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C371kuIWcAIvals.jpg

Jordan 02-06-2017 10:34 AM

Kota and Okada could be another six star.

Jordan 02-13-2017 08:48 AM

Just canceled my NJPWorld account. It's my rebellion for not having a true english access site, can't deal with that anymore. Plus everything new is on watch wrestling so fuck it.

#BROKEN Hasney 02-23-2017 04:14 PM

Ibushi on Tiger Mask W:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5YKt-xVcAAtSP2.jpg

#BROKEN Hasney 06-11-2017 07:56 AM

Good fucking god, Omega and Okada did it again.

#BROKEN Hasney 06-11-2017 03:03 PM

This fucking dodge/sell after 50 minutes was just incredible

http://i.imgur.com/TiIKBiq.gif

Fignuts 06-11-2017 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4923347)
Styles/Cena was a better match than Okada/Omega. Fight me.

Wasn't around when this was posted so, late reply.

I think okada vs omega told the better story. You had omega working the back and neck, to soften him up for the One Winged Angel. Meanwhile Okada is doing everything he can to avoid getting hit with it, instead of just kicking out of the finisher, which we see in every other big match including styles vs cena. The story goes begins before match itself in that regard, as they built up to it by making omegas finisher a one hit kill. Something that's very unique and different in japan, and even here in the states these days.

Styles vs Cena is more or less your basic big star wwe match, though they executed it as beautifully as anyone. The problem is its the same kind of match they had before at summerslam. Where as okada vs omega uses the continuity of the last six months to tell its story, cena vs styles is content to do more of the same. They even repeated the super AA kickout, which while still a cool spot, lacked the impact that it had the first time, because you knew aj was going to kick out. It just seemed a tiny bit lazy, to just put in an already used big spot, rather than making something different.

#BROKEN Hasney 06-11-2017 03:27 PM

I honestly think this one was better than Wrestle Kingdom somehow. I knew the result going in and I was still utterly lost in the match. I had the New Legacy Inc Discord recording on and they were losing it as well. Had Johnny yelling HOLY SHIT YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT OKADA when he got the ropes after the one winged angel. How some of those knees and filthy Okada dropkicks didn't seriously injure either of them I'll never know. Same with those snap dragon suplexes.

Xero 06-11-2017 05:00 PM

Okada/Omega II was better than the first, but only slightly.

Evil Vito 06-11-2017 06:06 PM

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Mr. Nerfect 06-12-2017 03:20 AM

How can a match be better than 6 stars? That's like saying something is better than 120% of itself.

Mr. Nerfect 06-12-2017 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4977675)
Wasn't around when this was posted so, late reply.

I think okada vs omega told the better story. You had omega working the back and neck, to soften him up for the One Winged Angel. Meanwhile Okada is doing everything he can to avoid getting hit with it, instead of just kicking out of the finisher, which we see in every other big match including styles vs cena. The story goes begins before match itself in that regard, as they built up to it by making omegas finisher a one hit kill. Something that's very unique and different in japan, and even here in the states these days.

Styles vs Cena is more or less your basic big star wwe match, though they executed it as beautifully as anyone. The problem is its the same kind of match they had before at summerslam. Where as okada vs omega uses the continuity of the last six months to tell its story, cena vs styles is content to do more of the same. They even repeated the super AA kickout, which while still a cool spot, lacked the impact that it had the first time, because you knew aj was going to kick out. It just seemed a tiny bit lazy, to just put in an already used big spot, rather than making something different.

That's a good analysis. I felt more drawn into the action of Cena/Styles, because, to me, Cena has more cache, so things like AJ Styles kicking out of his moves means more than a dude I don't know's finish. It's possible I would change my opinion if I followed New Japan a bit more closely and was more invested in Okada as champion and Omega as a challenger.

I thought it was a great match. I did find stuff like the Dragon Superplex took me out of it completely. It was a bad emotional note to play, in my opinion, and to me that was a big deal, but I want to re-state that I did think it was a good match. I just find the child-like hyperbole around it a bit silly.

Mr. Nerfect 06-12-2017 03:24 AM

I sometimes forget that Juice Robinson exists, but I honestly do believe that one day he'll be back in the WWE and be a big star for them.


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