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Bad News Gertner 06-25-2013 05:40 PM

NHL Thread
 
Bryz gets bought out by Philly. Lol Flyers just can't catch a break in net.

Leafs apparently going to buy out Komisarek.


Soooooooooo jacked about the NHL draft. Avs are retarded if they don't take Seth Jones.

screech 06-25-2013 05:43 PM

Ton of money to pay a guy to stay away, but had to be done. I don't think he would have lasted much longer. Fans soured on him and apparently a lot of players did also.

Skippord 06-25-2013 10:42 PM

Nathan MacKINNONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

or somebody else, probably. Maybe Barkov

Arashi Kage 06-26-2013 12:10 AM

It'll be interesting to see how the Rangers and Canuckleheads do next season with this coaching swap.

I really like AV, and I know that I'm not alone in saying that Gillis should have been sent out of Vancouver instead.

Bad News Gertner 06-26-2013 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 4231962)
Nathan MacKINNONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

or somebody else, probably. Maybe Barkov

Lol gonna be funny when Jan Hejda playing on the first team powerplay because the Avs have zero puck moving D.

Skippord 06-26-2013 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4232051)
Lol gonna be funny when Jan Hejda playing on the first team powerplay because the Avs have zero puck moving D.

They'll probably have Tyson Barrie do it, he seemed better last year. Or they'll just go with Ryan O'Reilly running the point since they seem to like to hang him out to dry at any opportunity.

Although my understanding is that Seth Jones isn't very good defensively so I'm cool with them not drafting him.

Skippord 06-26-2013 12:41 AM

and I'm a pretty firm believer in drafting the best player available

Bad News Gertner 06-26-2013 12:48 AM

I remember saying this about the Oilers years ago when they were shit "stop drafting forwards when your defence is horseshit" Look where they are at. 4 years later and their defense is a friggen mess.

The Avs D scored 3 goals all season. That's awful. Seth Jones addressing more of a need than MacKinnon does.

Skippord 06-26-2013 12:50 AM

ideally they'd trade Paul Stasny for some sort of defensemen, but Paul Stasny kind of sucks so I don't know what they're planning on.

Ray Borque is totally gonna come back

Bad News Gertner 06-26-2013 12:51 AM

I heard Stastny for Dion Phaneuf has been knocked around a bit.

Skippord 06-26-2013 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4232062)
I heard Stastny for Dion Phaneuf has been knocked around a bit.

I would love for them to do that, but it makes sense for them to so I doubt they will.

The Avs are a real enigma

Bad News Gertner 06-26-2013 12:58 AM

I don't know why teams neglect defense. It baffles me.

I knew Boston was going to destroy Pittsburgh because Pittsburgh threw all their chips on Morrow, Iginla and Jokinen, and added nothing to their defense, besides slow ass Doug Murray


Edmonton currently has Hall, Eberle, Hemsky, Gagner, MSP, Horcoff, RNH, and they won't win shit.


Their current top 4 defense are Anton Belov who they signed out of the KHL and has yet to play a single game, Nick Schultz who is a nice bottom pairing guy, Justin Schultz who I love and Jeff Petry. Smid is meh and I guess Mark Fistric is the 6th by default


That is atrocious, and that's what you get for constantly spending high picks on forwards and neglecting the real need. They have a ton of $ tied of with their forwards, have a cheap d core and still don't have a #1 goaltender.

Bad News Gertner 06-26-2013 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 4232063)
I would love for them to do that, but it makes sense for them to so I doubt they will.

The Avs are a real enigma

I wouldn't be excited about it. Dion's fine. He's just not that #1 guy that Toronto has labelled him as. Plays far too much.

Skippord 06-26-2013 01:02 AM

Justin Schultz is pretty great

I'm of the opinion that the Avs are right to draft Nathan MacKinnon if they do because it takes so long for defensemen to develop into impact players and apparently all number one drafted defensemen turn out to be awful, but if they're bluffing and take Jones I'm fine with it.

Bad News Gertner 06-26-2013 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 4232070)
Justin Schultz is pretty great

I'm of the opinion that the Avs are right to draft Nathan MacKinnon if they do because it takes so long for defensemen to develop into impact players and apparently all number one drafted defensemen turn out to be awful, but if they're bluffing and take Jones I'm fine with it.

Avs aren't winning anytime soon. They can afford to wait. Seth Jones is possibly the best d prospect since Chris Pronger.



Btw, loooooooove Barkov.

Skippord 06-26-2013 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4232067)
I wouldn't be excited about it. Dion's fine. He's just not that #1 guy that Toronto has labelled him as. Plays far too much.

I'm not the biggest Paul Stastny fan so I'd be more into it for the purposes of getting a serviceable defensemen out of a guy who seems to be in a huge rut here.

Skippord 06-26-2013 01:04 AM

and I could also meet Elisha Cuthbert

Skippord 06-26-2013 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4232071)
Avs aren't winning anytime soon. They can afford to wait.

That's probably true, you have to factor in Patrick Roy being a lunatic who will probably kill himself if they don't win though and give him the best chance I guess.

Bad News Gertner 06-26-2013 01:11 AM

Here's the problem with some of the defense I've noticed who get drafted high and flame out.

Like you said, it takes a bit longer for a defenceman to develop. Lots of different nuances to the game.


Luke Schenn, Zack Bogosian, Victor Hedman, all got rushed to the NHL straight out of the draft, when they should have spent more time in Junior. If a young defenseman's confidence gets ruined by getting burned by a forward it shows more. Nobody is patient anymore.

Skippord 06-26-2013 01:21 AM

Yeah that's probably the biggest problem

And the fact that it's easier to quantify how successful forwards are since they score the majority of the points and aren't as responsible for any defensive mistakes.

Bad News Gertner 06-26-2013 01:53 AM

If Furcale somehow drops in the first round if I'm the Avs id be exploring into gettinga late first round pick.

Bad News Gertner 06-26-2013 01:57 AM

Lol did I ever say how much I fucking love the NHL draft. I buy up all the hockey draft mags every years and read tons of mock drafts and scouting report each year. Toronto picks at 21. Thinking maybe they draft Gauthier who is a center out of the QMHL. They are pretty deep at defence in terms of spects in Rielly, Finn, Percy and Blacker. Deep draft this year so they should be able to get a good player.

Skippord 06-26-2013 02:03 AM

I love all drafts to a ridiculous degree

NBA Network has been running old NBA drafts and I've been watching all of them because I am a weirdo

Blitz 06-26-2013 02:10 AM

I'm just hoping the Leafs don't blow up the team. Make some moves, but don't blow it up.

Cautiously optimistic about the Bernier deal.

Skippord 06-26-2013 02:13 AM

Kadri for Stastny

WHO SAYS NO!?

Skippord 06-26-2013 02:15 AM

that's for my dream "Nothing but Centers" Avs lineup

Skippord 06-26-2013 02:19 AM

watching TSN's draft ranking special now

so very Canadian

Skippord 06-26-2013 02:28 AM

I'd be cool with the Avs drafting Rasmus Ristolainen because it's the coolest name I've ever heard

Skippord 06-28-2013 12:27 AM

TANGERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Bad News Gertner 06-28-2013 12:32 AM

Lol yeah they are definitely taking MacKinnon

Skippord 06-28-2013 12:46 AM

I look forward to watching him

although I'm pretty sure they'll be picking fairly high again next year

Skippord 06-30-2013 03:49 PM

NATEMACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK

#NOTHINGBUTCENTERS

Blitz 06-30-2013 04:00 PM

Cory Schneider to New Jersey for the 9th pick. Damn. Pretty cheap.

Bad News Gertner 06-30-2013 04:22 PM

Not a fan of Horvat. Weird trade for Vancouver. Surprised they didn't get more.

Bad News Gertner 06-30-2013 04:23 PM

Friggen love the NHL draft!

#BrotherVito DELETED 06-30-2013 04:24 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Fucking Cal Clutterbuck.</font>

Bad News Gertner 06-30-2013 04:25 PM

Love Cal Clutterbuck

Bad News Gertner 06-30-2013 04:27 PM

Can't believe Seth jones fell to 4. Nashville's defense is disgusting: Weber, Josi, Klein, Jones, Ellis, Bartley.

#BrotherVito DELETED 06-30-2013 04:28 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Garth's gotta get a goalie. Somehow, someway.</font>

Bad News Gertner 06-30-2013 04:34 PM

Zach Furcale is gonna get picked by the Isles.


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