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Mr. Nerfect 05-07-2022 08:42 PM

Remember when TK tweeted that he chose the Rampage slot? Like anyone chooses Friday at 10 for their TV.

I also love it when people suggest the show gets a 7pm time slot instead. TK didn’t choose to go on at this time. He doesn’t have the weight or leverage to promote his show when it is underperforming as it is.

XL 05-08-2022 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5547241)
The overnight number for Rampage, which will probably increase, is 319k. Compare that to the third hour of Raw. Fucking yikes.

If Kathleen Finch is looking for reasons to get wrestling off TNT and TBS, Rampage failing is a good way to make it “their fault.” That and some of their content for morality purposes. But I remember the $45 million deal AEW signed being for Dynamite and what would become Rampage. If Rampage underperforms and AEW isn’t living up to their end of the bargain in generating viewers—WBD probably has a very clear path to cancelling their asses.

Rampage getting that death slot may have always been a planned out for Warner if the time ever came for it.

Does a broadcaster have to be so Machiavellian as to have purposefully planned to pay for extra content only to air it in a bad timeslot so that they have a reason to dump the show? Can’t they just go “nah, we don’t want it anymore and we don’t even need to justify it”?

#1-norm-fan 05-08-2022 10:08 AM

Well, the other option was that they gave AEW a new weekly show and a bunch of TV specials because they were pleased with what they were already getting and wanted more.

And THAT can’t possibly be the case so... elaborate sabotage.

Destor 05-08-2022 10:13 AM

i cant take the idea "we like you here's a friday slot" too seriously. more like "here's the worst slot we have. if you can make this work we'll talk."

xrodmuc316 05-08-2022 10:45 AM

The one thing I feel pro wrestling really can't get away with anymore is taped shows. We saw it with last week's Smackdown, and we see it with the majority of Rampage episodes. If the wrestling is not a live show, the ratings are significantly lower.

Yes the 10:00pm timeslot is never going to get a large audience, but at least the live episodes get an additional 150-200k more viewers. The problem is that it is hard to justify renting out a 2nd arena for a 1 hour show, and the ad rate difference between 500,000 and 350,000 viewers is likely not very different.

It is cost effective to tape everything on the same night, but when they base so much of their bragging rights on ratings, it does hurt their case when they are doing much lower than they could do by not running Rampage live every week.

XL 05-08-2022 11:59 AM

True. Rampage was a bad idea altogether. Too much, too soon.

Mr. Nerfect 05-08-2022 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5547294)
i cant take the idea "we like you here's a friday slot" too seriously. more like "here's the worst slot we have. if you can make this work we'll talk."

Yeah, it was most likely a “fuck it, see if wrestling nerds follow you into this” scenario.

Mr. Nerfect 05-08-2022 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5547279)
Does a broadcaster have to be so Machiavellian as to have purposefully planned to pay for extra content only to air it in a bad timeslot so that they have a reason to dump the show? Can’t they just go “nah, we don’t want it anymore and we don’t even need to justify it”?

Sure, they could always cancel it without justification. Wrestling fans are an educated and understanding lot. Having justification is always nice though. But that’s always a game of perception. They could use low ratings or morality, as I said. It’s just fun stirring up the apologists.

I don’t put it past broadcasters to be Machiavellian at all though. But it was likely a crapshoot because they had to give them a slot and gave them the worst one to see if it could turn empty space into something. And that got a big, fat foghorn.

Mr. Nerfect 05-08-2022 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5547310)
True. Rampage was a bad idea altogether. Too much, too soon.

It stunk of WCW Thunder.

Mr. Nerfect 05-08-2022 01:13 PM

Something else I’ll throw out there: Kevin Riley made the deal with AEW, right? We’ve been led to believe it was for the two shows with an ad revenue split. I don’t know how that’s changed over time with the TNT specials being thrown into the mix, but Brett Weiz would end up taking Riley’s place at some point. It’s definitely possible that buyer’s remorse or some form of passive aggressiveness coming out of the shakeups has informed how AEW is programmed too.

xrodmuc316 05-09-2022 04:42 PM

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Mr. Nerfect 05-09-2022 04:46 PM

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Holy shit…

Mr. Nerfect 05-10-2022 03:10 AM

AEW fanboys are predictably quiet on this one.

slik 05-10-2022 05:53 PM

1.65 million for RAW

Mr. Nerfect 05-10-2022 10:34 PM

Great number compared to AEW.

xrodmuc316 05-10-2022 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5548019)
Great number compared to AEW.

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Mr. Nerfect 05-11-2022 01:42 AM

CM Punk draws attention at first, then he loses it. This has been the pattern since 2011.

Mr. Nerfect 05-11-2022 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by slik (Post 5547912)
1.65 million for RAW

To clarify, the first hour of Raw got 1.73 million viewers. The second got 1.63 mil. The third hour got 1.593 mil viewers.

If you want to compare third hours of each company’s programming outside of prime time, Rampage got 292k. Granted, it was out of its usual time slot. That’s because it’s not important, but nevertheless. If you’re someone who pays attention to Meltzer’s bullshit about demo — Raw’s third hour got 0.43 compared to Rampage’s 0.11. Raw actually increased over the third hour.

*Farts*

slik 05-11-2022 05:26 PM

NXT @ #51 with 533k

Mr. Nerfect 05-11-2022 06:53 PM

NXT is closer to Dynamite than Dynamite is to the third hour of Raw.

Jordan 05-11-2022 11:07 PM

Next person to post in this thread is gay!

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-12-2022 05:36 AM

Oh hey guys

Jordan 05-12-2022 07:46 AM

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

slik 05-12-2022 04:37 PM

Dynamite was no match this week for the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, coming in at #5


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Bad News Gertner 05-12-2022 05:07 PM

Ouch. 2000 WCW Worldwide called. They'd like their ratings back

Mr. Nerfect 05-12-2022 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5548519)
Ouch. 2000 WCW Worldwide called. They'd like their ratings back

Honest question: Worldwide would have done better numbers, no?

Bad News Gertner 05-12-2022 05:14 PM

Worldwide was syndicated so probably

Destor 05-12-2022 07:27 PM

it absolutely did

Destor 05-12-2022 07:30 PM

the business was super hot though. live wire pulled better numbers

screech 05-12-2022 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5548523)
Worldwide was syndicated so probably

AEW should bring in Scott Hudson

Sepholio 05-12-2022 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by screech (Post 5548536)
AEW should bring in Scott Norton

Seconded

xrodmuc316 05-12-2022 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by slik (Post 5548516)
Dynamite was no match this week for the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, coming in at #5


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xrodmuc316 05-12-2022 09:24 PM

Lots of good eating today!

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Damian Rey 2.0 05-12-2022 09:27 PM

Give me Lee Marshall calling in from random pay phones throughout the country

xrodmuc316 05-16-2022 03:17 PM


Mr. Nerfect 05-16-2022 05:00 PM

Well, the good news is that the Rampage rating is up. It’s up from a record low show, but up is up, right?

xrodmuc316 05-18-2022 10:19 PM

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Mr. Nerfect 05-18-2022 11:51 PM

That’s even if the ratings pop. People are seeing through this shit now.

XL 05-19-2022 06:47 AM

Doesn’t really matter if it does if it’s not sustained. Would those debuts/returns have captured interest?

Mr. Nerfect 05-19-2022 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5549971)
Doesn’t really matter if it does if it’s not sustained. Would those debuts/returns have captured interest?

:y:


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