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SlickyTrickyDamon 02-02-2015 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by im just a fan (Post 4578982)
Johnny football just checked in to a treatment clinic.

A Shitty QB clinic?

Clerk 02-02-2015 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4579021)


No Russel Wilson will be checking into that

screech 02-02-2015 01:48 PM

Goodell apparently declined an interview on the SB pregame. But his league can fine players for not talking after week 3. what

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-02-2015 05:10 PM

Super Bowl was the most watched program in American television history.

owenbrown 02-02-2015 05:39 PM

where have you been, STD? That is the case every year.

owenbrown 02-02-2015 05:40 PM

By the way, congrats to Smelly Meatball for winning TPWW Pick Them this year

owenbrown 02-02-2015 06:35 PM

jesus :nono:
http://deadspin.com/cops-warren-sapp...ium=socialflow

Emperor Smeat 02-02-2015 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ESPN
Baltimore Ravens nose tackle Terrence Cody was indicted Monday morning for animal abuse involving a dog and an alligator, according to the Baltimore County Deputy State's Attorney in Maryland.

Was released today by the Ravens and currently facing 15 charges (13 animal abuse, 2 drug).

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12...d-animal-abuse

Ruien 02-02-2015 09:50 PM

Five counts of animal abuse or neglect involving the alligator.

Probably decided he did not want to die so he locked the alligator in the basement.

Ruien 02-02-2015 09:51 PM

Seriously though, fuck him for neglecting/bringing his dog to a early death. Probably was a terrible life for the dog too. Hope he gets the max on all the charges.

RP 02-02-2015 10:11 PM

If Terrence Cody's name was Michael Vick, this would be a huge story.

ClockShot 02-03-2015 06:53 AM

Warren Sapp got arrested in Phoenix for soliciting a hooker. NFL Network promptly fired him.

Heyman 02-03-2015 09:49 AM

Very disappointed by the outcome of the game obviously, and the horrific ending from a Seahawks perspective, but the Pats deserved to win. Brady truly is a legend, and I think he has a valid claim in being considered the GOAT. My personal pick for GOAT is Joe Montana, but I wouldn't complain if the general consensus was Brady.


Seahawks have a great core and will be a contender for years.

road doggy dogg 02-03-2015 09:56 AM

For your sake I hope you're right. Wilson is going to get his payday, Lynch may or may not leave, and their defense needs to be paid soon too. Could be difficult to retain that core.

Clerk 02-03-2015 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Heyman (Post 4579659)
Very disappointed by the outcome of the game obviously, and the horrific ending from a Seahawks perspective, but the Pats deserved to win. Brady truly is a legend, and I think he has a valid claim in being considered the GOAT. My personal pick for GOAT is Joe Montana, but I wouldn't complain if the general consensus was Brady.


Seahawks have a great core and will be a contender for years.

No to Thomas Brady being the GOAT (it's Aaron Rodgers)

Sadly the Seahawks run is over unless they can find a legit quarterback to run there team.

Ruien 02-03-2015 09:58 AM

I don't understand why Wilson is going to get paid like a superstar (As I keep hearing from people). The defense, offensive line, and Lynch carry the team. Sure Wilson is a above than average quarterback but to spend a ton of money on him may cripple the team.

road doggy dogg 02-03-2015 10:07 AM

Well he's not gonna get like Brady money but going from his current ~$900k to even a reasonable like $8-9M is a huge increase and will affect what else they can do with their cap

Heyman 02-03-2015 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4579663)
For your sake I hope you're right. Wilson is going to get his payday, Lynch may or may not leave, and their defense needs to be paid soon too. Could be difficult to retain that core.



Lynch just signed a huge extension if I understand correctly (which is why the running joke in Seattle right now is why give a guy such a huge contract if you aren't going to give him the ball on the 2 yard line for the championship!).


As Clerk and Ruien allude to, Russell Wilson may not be the best Quarterback in the game right now, but I would argue that he's up there. I would also argue that a combination of Wilson's leadership, character, and what he means to both the players and the city, makes him worth every bit of the contract that the Seahawks will inevitably give him.

road doggy dogg 02-03-2015 10:13 AM

Ah okay. I heard they offered him (Lynch) an extension but wasn't sure if he signed.

Ruien 02-03-2015 10:18 AM

I would put Wilson in the second tier of quarterbacks. He is not Rodgers/Brady/Manning/Brees but he could fall into the next catagory. I can't put him in with the best of the best because the offense runs through Lynch rather than Wilson. That is not to say Wilson is a game manager but Lynch (And the offensive line) is what makes the offense tick.

Clerk 02-03-2015 10:26 AM

Top 10 QB's playing right now
1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Tom Brady
3. Andrew Luck
4. Peyton Manning
5. Drew Brees
6. Philip Rivers
7. Colin Kaepernick
8. Tony Romo
9. Ben Rothlesbigburger
10. Joe Flacco

road doggy dogg 02-03-2015 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4579682)
I would put Wilson in the second tier of quarterbacks. He is not Rodgers/Brady/Manning/Brees but he could fall into the next catagory. I can't put him in with the best of the best because the offense runs through Lynch rather than Wilson. That is not to say Wilson is a game manager but Lynch (And the offensive line) is what makes the offense tick.

Those are all entirely fair and accurate points. But Wilson will be getting a raise, and though he won't be making $20M/year like some of the top guys, it's not unreasonable to expect roughly half that.

Between a potential new Wilson contract and Lynch's extension, that alone will increase the 'Hawks' cap hit by probably about $12M+

Ruien 02-03-2015 10:40 AM

Top 10 QB's playing right now
1. Tom Brady
2. Aaron Rodgers
3. Peyton Mannings
4. Andrew Luck
5. Drew Brees
6. Tony Romo
7. Joe Flacco
8. Matt Stafford
9. Russel Wilson
10. Cam Newton

Ruien 02-03-2015 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4579693)
Those are all entirely fair and accurate points. But Wilson will be getting a raise, and though he won't be making $20M/year like some of the top guys, it's not unreasonable to expect roughly half that.

Between a potential new Wilson contract and Lynch's extension, that alone will increase the 'Hawks' cap hit by probably about $12M+

Ya, he will be getting a raise. 8/9 million a year would be perfect. Giving him 20 million a year would be extreme and what could cripple the Seahawks if it happens.

road doggy dogg 02-03-2015 10:50 AM

I've been bullish on Brees in the past but I think I might put a couple of those guys ahead of him at this point. Seems he's on the downswing of his career.


Of course, next season he'll throw for 5500 yards and 46 TDs now to make me look stupid for saying that

Ruien 02-03-2015 11:03 AM

Ya, he is on the decline. The gap between him and the next guy is very thin now.

Clerk 02-03-2015 11:21 AM

Give manziel credit yea?

http://cle.247sports.com/Bolt/Manzie...eport-35318210

Crimson 02-03-2015 11:22 AM

Manning should be number 10

Evil Vito 02-03-2015 12:59 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Nothing against Brady but I don't really see how anybody other than Rodgers can be considered the #1 QB in the league.

Rodgers' numbers at home this season: 25 TD, 0 INT, 9.7 yards per pass attempt, 133.2 passer rating. And his last INT at home was in 2012. This season 1 INT for every 7 or so TD. No other QB in the league came even close to that.

He pretty much never makes mistakes.</font>

road doggy dogg 02-03-2015 01:49 PM

You're comparing apples to oranges, though, that's the problem.


See, Aaron Rodgers is a cyborg.

Ruien 02-03-2015 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4579766)
<font color=goldenrod>Nothing against Brady but I don't really see how anybody other than Rodgers can be considered the #1 QB in the league.

Rodgers' numbers at home this season: 25 TD, 0 INT, 9.7 yards per pass attempt, 133.2 passer rating. And his last INT at home was in 2012. This season 1 INT for every 7 or so TD. No other QB in the league came even close to that.

He pretty much never makes mistakes.</font>

As of right now, I would take Brady over Rodgers to win a game for me. Rodgers has been destroyed by Seattle and San Fran for the past 3 years. Would rather take the guy that wins when the big competition comes to play.

Not that I would fault anyone for taking Rodgers over Brady.

ClockShot 02-03-2015 03:16 PM

Juror got tossed in the Aaron Hernandez case.

Not the best of signs already.

Emperor Smeat 02-03-2015 05:30 PM

Of Ruien's list, I'd swap around Luck & Peyton and Wilson & Stafford. Peyton played pretty horribly down the stretch unlike Luck while Wilson arguably is looking like to be his generation's "Tom Brady"

Requiem 02-03-2015 05:47 PM

If Russel Wilson was a better QB, he never would have thrown that pass in the first place. Not just in the run vs pass debate, but that pass all together, to that guy, on that part of the field. Just an awful choice. He choked under the pressure.

A better QB would have audibled at the line and changed the playcall, or hell, just improvised and pulled a QB sneak instead. A better QB wouldn't stand by their coach's bad call. They'd fucking fix it on the field and win the fucking Super Bowl.

Emperor Smeat 02-03-2015 09:30 PM

Falcons confirmed the NFL's claims of them artificiality boosting crowd noise during games the past couple of years. Still going to take a few more weeks for an official report to be made though.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12...-investigation

Think the Colts a few years ago also got busted or probed for something similar as well. Still get complaints about doing it every season.

Ruien 02-03-2015 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4580018)
Of Ruien's list, I'd swap around Luck & Peyton and Wilson & Stafford. Peyton played pretty horribly down the stretch unlike Luck while Wilson arguably is looking like to be his generation's "Tom Brady"

I agree with the Luck and Manning swap but I am a Colts fan and did not want to seem biased.

road doggy dogg 02-04-2015 12:42 AM

At this point in their respective careers I would definitely take Luck over Manning right now. Manning may be the smartest (in terms of "football IQ") QB to ever play the game but he can't make the throws Luck can right now. And Luck mad nice/troll whenever he gets tackled, super duper

RP 02-04-2015 01:21 AM

Luck has a lot of gunslinger in him. I think our offensive line gets a bad rep sometimes because Luck will hold the ball til the last second to make a play. Which I love. Peyton isn't done. I said it before we beat Denver. He was injured. Peyton don't miss practices and apparently missed two the week before the Colts game. Nothing else would make Peyton miss a practice unless he was seriously hurt. If he comes back next season, he'll be better than 85% of the starting QB's in the league.

road doggy dogg 02-04-2015 01:25 AM

I really like the comparison that Bill Simmons made about Peyton to Steve Nash. Right now, Peyton at his highest level can play as well as anybody in the league, Rodgers/Luck/Brady included. He still has that talent. But being able to do that for 20 weeks straight? That's where it becomes an issue.

If you could use NFL QBs like baseball closers, and just use Manning from like week 10 on, man he'd win a Superbowl no probs

RP 02-04-2015 01:31 AM

Not buying that with Peyton. Nash has chronic problems like Larry Bird. I think Peyton played with one leg for the last 6 or 7 games for Denver.


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