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Lock Jaw 06-16-2018 10:31 PM

Gargano undone by his own bloodlust

DaveWadding 06-16-2018 10:31 PM

Jesus Christ that was an overbooked ending

Lock Jaw 06-16-2018 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5135196)
Not a fan of this RAW ppv type booking for the main-event

I love it

slik 06-16-2018 10:31 PM

w/e match/finish

Triple A 06-16-2018 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5135202)
I love it

same

Lock Jaw 06-16-2018 10:32 PM

Good match...... those two really good at making me believe they legit hate each other..... something missing from pretty much every "blood feud" these days......

Droford 06-16-2018 10:32 PM

I feel like this would be a good first ever HIAC match in nxt

Sepholio 06-16-2018 10:32 PM

and why was there no referee the 2 times Ciampa tapped? Because Gargano took the ref out at the top of the ramp lol. How fitting.

RP 06-16-2018 10:33 PM

I would hate watching any wrestling PPV with Noid. I would just leave and let him watch and be insufferable by himself.

Sepholio 06-16-2018 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5135206)
I feel like this would be a good first ever HIAC match in nxt

Accurate.

slik 06-16-2018 10:33 PM

Wish Lars or someone would powerbomb Percy r/n

Lock Jaw 06-16-2018 10:33 PM

Feel like Ciampa winning the title, and Gargano coming back for the "rubber match" and to win the title himself is the way to go

slik 06-16-2018 10:33 PM

Think I H8 Gargano now

sooooo tired of his one fucking facial expression

Ben Rodrigues 06-16-2018 10:34 PM

Rematch at NXT Wrestlemania for Ciampa's NXT Championship.

Mr. Nerfect 06-16-2018 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5135193)
Gargano is incredible, idk what the heck Noid is talking about re: this match

I really liked his tag team with Ciampa. Their matches against The Revival were really great and got me pumped. I dunno, I just feel that this is trying to force emotions. It feels like bad theater. I'm sure it will get 6 stars, don't worry.

DaveWadding 06-16-2018 10:35 PM

Crowd delivers with the FUCK YOU CIAMPA chant

Sepholio 06-16-2018 10:36 PM

There was that wonderful serenade.

Mr. Nerfect 06-16-2018 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5135206)
I feel like this would be a good first ever HIAC match in nxt

I was thinking that, but they've got the Hell in a Cell PPV the next month. Maybe they actually fight on that PPV somehow? I don't know. I think the Ciampa winning the belt and Gargano challenging him theory makes sense.

slik 06-16-2018 10:37 PM

Match was good until GOD-AWFUL RAW BOOKING


Cheesy spot that isn't really crazy treated like it's crazy
500 replays
overbooked John Cena type finish

Not what I expect from NXT


N-E-Ways

slik 06-16-2018 10:38 PM

I will forgive Gargano because he has a nice body...but next time @HHH u need to #StepItUp in the booking

#1-norm-fan 06-16-2018 10:41 PM

Just caught the last 10 minutes or so. Maybe I'm just soured by the main roster nothingness but that seemed like pretty decent storytelling and a fine ending. Good chaos.

xrodmuc316 06-16-2018 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5135214)
I really liked his tag team with Ciampa. Their matches against The Revival were really great and got me pumped. I dunno, I just feel that this is trying to force emotions. It feels like bad theater. I'm sure it will get 6 stars, don't worry.

You still gotta respect Tommaso, only dude in the WWE that can get the "F You" chants with that level of hatred. Interested to see if he can maintain it when not going up against Gargano and the story they have told, but as of these last few months Ciampa has been the best heel NXT has ever had in terms of getting real heat.

#1-norm-fan 06-16-2018 10:43 PM

Wedding ring thing was great. Noid is right about Gargano reacting by going for a very "controled" wrestling move and not just murdering him seeming off though.

Sepholio 06-16-2018 10:44 PM

LOL this episode of photo shoot is incredible. Anyone else watching?

xrodmuc316 06-16-2018 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5135222)
I will forgive Gargano because he has a nice body...but next time @HHH u need to #StepItUp in the booking

Lol, why are you at'ing and hashtagging?

Mr. Nerfect 06-16-2018 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5135220)
Match was good until GOD-AWFUL RAW BOOKING


Cheesy spot that isn't really dangerous treated like it's dangerous
500 replays
overbooked John Cena type finish

Not what I expect from NXT


N-E-Ways

I'm glad someone gets where I'm coming from. Feels like it's sacrilege to have any criticisms of Gargano right now. "Cheesy" is a very good word for it. I'm not a big fan of the plunder matches. I appreciate a good brawl with good brawl psychology, but when it's trash cans and crutches, it's just a bit 24/7 hardcore for me. This also had all the tropes of your modern "everything but the kitchen sink" approach. It was kind of funny when Ciampa came alive and hit that DDT at the end and won the match. It was a DDT onto wood. Gargano jumped off from higher through wood a few seconds ago and was fine.

I really liked how Gargano had some threads that would tie into the finish of his matches with The Revival, but I feel that his position right now is to do "epic matches" with something "dramatically innovative" towards the end, and I think it's going to have diminishing returns. Just let the little guy wrestle. He's really good.

Mr. Nerfect 06-16-2018 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5135225)
You still gotta respect Tommaso, only dude in the WWE that can get the "F You" chants with that level of hatred. Interested to see if he can maintain it when not going up against Gargano and the story they have told, but as of these last few months Ciampa has been the best heel NXT has ever had in terms of getting real heat.

He's doing great work. I don't think it's real heat. I think it's an ironic response because people love Johnny and they know that Ciampa's trying to be an actual heel so they're playing along. But it's better than them ironically not.

If he starts banging Candice they could be a new version of Edge & Lita.

Triple A 06-16-2018 10:48 PM

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Ol Dirty Dastard 06-16-2018 10:50 PM

Noid. Sometimes just chill and let people enjoy things lol.

slik 06-16-2018 10:51 PM

@Noid -- I had that #concern before the match as well -- That they wouldn't do a 'real street fight' and more of a 'main-roster' streetfight

Match needed B-L-O-O-D...chains, thumbtacks, barbed wire, idk...something

slik 06-16-2018 10:52 PM

If Ciampa poured lighter fluid on Gargano and acted like he was going to set him on fire it would have felt 'more dangerous' or that they hated each-other IMO

Mr. Nerfect 06-16-2018 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5135226)
Wedding ring thing was great. Noid is right about Gargano reacting by going for a very "controled" wrestling move and not just murdering him seeming off though.

Loved the wedding ring spot. I liked the sign in the sign, but why did Ciampa choose that one to try and break? It's a bit cute.

It wasn't bad-bad. I'm not spitting venom about it anything, and I like both guys. I just hate the hoke. I don't need Brecht in my wrestling.

Lock Jaw 06-16-2018 10:52 PM

oh no

rassling board negativity beginning to infect into NXT

Mr. Nerfect 06-16-2018 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5135234)
Noid. Sometimes just chill and let people enjoy things lol.

People can enjoy it just as much as I can not enjoy it. Who's not chill?

slik 06-16-2018 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5135238)
oh no

rassling board negativity beginning to infect into NXT


I blame RAW

My faves tonight were the opening tag bout and King LARS and Aleister

Mr. Nerfect 06-16-2018 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5135238)
oh no

rassling board negativity beginning to infect into NXT

Most of the show was something I really enjoyed. Really liked what I saw of Dream/Ricochet, liked Shayna/Nikki enough and loved Black/Sullivan. Just because it's NXT doesn't mean it's perfect, haha.

xrodmuc316 06-16-2018 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5135231)
He's doing great work. I don't think it's real heat. I think it's an ironic response because people love Johnny and they know that Ciampa's trying to be an actual heel so they're playing along. But it's better than them ironically not.

If he starts banging Candice they could be a new version of Edge & Lita.

Exactly my thought, get him away from Gargano and see if the heat is real, but until I see it fade, I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

As for the banging Candice thing, it would work great, but WWE doesnt have the stones to do that kind of thing anymore, even in NXT.

The way Tomasso was talking while walking Johnny up the ramp, and the wedding band spot, I assume it is gonna be a "you changed after you got married, you abandoned me" kind of thing.

slik 06-16-2018 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5135233)
<iframe src="https://streamable.com/s/md8je/ktimb" frameborder="0" width="640px" height="360px" allowfullscreen></iframe>


:heart:

Mr. Nerfect 06-16-2018 10:58 PM

First time hearing Vic Joseph. He was okay. I think I liked him more than Tom Phillips. Didn't really pay attention to him. Inoffensive but not great, I guess. Loved Nigel on commentary. Holy shit it's weird hearing color commentators with insight. Percy Watson is redundant and I have no clue why even NXT has those box-ticking things going on when it, overall, feels like a much better structured, produced and organic presentation.

If the plan is to go move onto Black/Ciampa, I am really curious to see how Ciampa goes working with someone that isn't Gargano. I feel like it would be fresh and interesting for him to mix it up with some other guys.

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-16-2018 10:59 PM

That was total bullshit. I love it.


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