Oh. Didn't know being a decent team was considered a turn around. My bad.

Lol turn around. They haven't done anything of significance. Making a few wildcard games and one round playoff appearances isn't a "turn around".

The Cubs had a franchise turn around. Even Cleveland. Toronto has had more of a turn around than Baltimore and their cameo playoff appearances

what the fuck is wrong with you

I guess the Orioles are on their way to the pre season world series championship

Jays went from barely getting 15-20000 a game to averaging like 40 thou plus a game.

unfortunately if they're poo this year that attendance is plummeting. Toronto is a fickle fan base.

At a certain point I just accept it's best to block Droford for a bit instead of just seeing the constant bickering nonstop. We all know he's an idiot.

David Wright won't be able to throw a baseball for weeks.

He looked done last year and now it seems even more apparent. :(

5 straight winning seasons after 14 straight losing seasons is the fucking literal definition of a turn around. Hell from 2007 to 2011 they never won more than 69 games and from 2012 to 2016 they've never won fewer than 81.

The Orioles won 3 more games in 14 when they won the AL East than the a blue Jays team that won it in 15. Also just in the past 5 years the Orioles have a better record (424 wins vs 415) than the Jays and made the playoffs 3 times vs the Jays 2. But whatever the Blue Jays are clearly better than the tram that has more wins than every team in the American League since 2012. Boston is clearly better cause they won a world series despite the fact they've also finished LAST 3 out of 5 years.

This thread is fucking dreadful.

Might be time for a Casual MLB Thread

Droford is 20 times worse with baseball then football.

He hit .254/.354/.550 at camden yards with 25 hr. His home road splits were near identical save for the fact his OBP was higher at home from more walks.

Was reading back in the thread. This stood out as proof to me none of you know anything. But again whatever I'm just a blind homer that knows nothing

2015
262/310/449 107 ops+ 1.6 WAR

2016
256/316/533 120 ops+ 1.6 WAR

How about instead of cherry picking stats you just call it as it is. Surprise surprise, Trumbo was the same barely major league regular he's always been.

Do you really want people to go back and point out all the dumb shit you say, like Jonathan Schoop is better than Jason Kipnis? Or how Joey Rickard was a good player?

Nice to see you're coming to your senses.

Schoop will be better than Kipnis because he's 5 years younger and already hit 25 hr and was on pace for 30 in the 2nd half of 2015 (15 in 86 games) . Kipnis didn't even start playing til 24 and didn't hit 20 hrs til last year age 29.
Schoop will be in the 30 hr group with Trumbo Davis Machado and Jones this year. Plus he played in all 162 games last year which Kipnis has never done in his career.

I was wrong about Rickard to the extent of how he played when he was healthy but he was on the DL for a large portion of the year. Speaking of the Indians they seem to want Anthony Santander back from the Orioles..he's going to have a bigger impact as a Rule 5 pick than Rickard did.

@Droford can you pls predict AL East final standings

not a hater just genuinely curious!!!!! As usual I have the Yankees penciled in for 162 wins and 0 losses...

Dog home runs mean jack shit as a second baseman. Come on now. Low obp and free swinging, not great speed and not great defence. Who gives a shit about his fucking home runs you numb nut.

chicks

chicks dig the long ball

well yeah

And Schoop probably has a bigger penis than Kipnis too. Chicks dig that as well.

Orioles
Blue Jays
Yankees
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30 homerun club? Jones hasn't hit 30 homeruns in 2 years.

Schoop has a career 283 career in base lmao. He's a career below average hitter lmao. His career "best" is a 306 on base unless you count the 5 games he played his first year lol. His "best" is worse than Kipnis' worst on base lmao. Kipnis is an all-star and Schoop is barely major league average, if that. Kipnis is Like 5x better lolololol.

You weren't wrong on Rickard to the extent of blah blah blah. You were just wrong lol.

And you mean 21 year oops Andy Santander, who never played above A ball? Lmao who's the last rule 5 pick who didn't make it past A ball to make any mind of impact offensively? Lmao he Will probably get sent back to Cleveland.

The Indians blog I read wants him back because he projects out to a Victor Martinez type player and he's only 22. They figured the Orioles figured they could stash him on the DL due to a shoulder surgery he had in December to satisfy the rule 5 25 man roster requirement and because the surgery wasn't a major one like previously thought he's healthy and won't be going to the dl barring another injury. But no way he goes back to Cleveland. The Orioles can use a backup OF with his potential in the future and they've never shyed away from using a roster spot for a rule 5 player before (mist famous being Flaherty from the Cubs in 2011 he's still a bench player)

OF Trumbo Jones Kim Smith
IF Davis Schoop Hardy Machafo Flaherty
C Castillo Joseph
SP Tillman Gausman Bundy Jimenez Miley
RP Britton Oday Givens Brach Hart

There's 4 slots open for RP and utility players so there's a spot for Santander at least.

And Jones had 29 hr in 152 games last year and 27 in 137 in 2015. He's a 30 hr guy when he doesn't miss games (32 in 2012 in 162 and 33 in 2013 in 160).

So the Indians blog not written by the Indians want him back? Great. Lmao Victor Martinez. Per mlb.com, real scouts rate him as an average regular at best. AT BEST. That's assuming he develops.

Likelihood is he's gonna set sent back because the Orioles think they can compete and having a dead bat on the roster who is maybe a backup outfielder long-term is a wasted roster spot for them.

But ok. He projects to be a Victor Martinez type. Based on a blog. Sure.

Jones is a good player

just Dro's hyperbole is too much

From Camden Chat
Which is where the comparison to V Mart comes from

Indians blog article I mentioned earlier

The funny thing is Santander has never met Martinez and his batting stance and etc is all natural to him not trying to copy Martinez's

So who do you think has a more valid opinion? A fan blog who's citing batting stance as a reason for a player comp, or a site run by mlb with real scouting reports by actual scouts measuring tools and ability instead of silly things like batting stances?

He is. I've always been a fan. He's a good guy who does community stuff here in San Diego during the offseason. And he's always been a solid player.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...ion-sore-elbow

Goodbye David Price

The Chris Sale trade looks even more important now. Imagine not acquiring him and Price going down.

They are about in the same place they were now. I'm not convinced Sale is that elite of a pitcher.

Sale is one of the best pitchers in baseball.

Price had a down year, not sure if that's the new norm for him though or if it was just bad luck.

He had a good 2014. Everything after that was about run of the mill really.

Sale or Price?

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/2175354...70302_70481526

lol this was awesome

:-\

Seems odd he waited till now to deal with the problem if it kept bugging him every year. Either his previous doctor(s) were bad or Rays/Jays just took his word on it not being serious.

RP is a Cubs fan. It's like debating Droford on a O's issue.