Kind of torn on the episode.

It just felt very "HERE'S STUFF" and like they skipped a bunch of episodes. I get that they wrote themselves into a corner with the opening and everything, but it feels like the other three seasons have had a gradual buildup to the Big Bad and this season was like "Ten minutes in? FUCK IT. HERE'S THE BIG BAD GUY FOR THE SEASON!" and that was pretty much it.

Strong closing though and the reveal of the name tying back in to the end of last season helped, but it definitely felt way rockier than the other three seasons' starts.

There still might be a swerve and Damien Dark might not be the big bad.... who knows...

Anyways, so much for Coast City flashbacks.... I liked the Hal Jordan "cameo"..... I knew it wasn't going to happen because he wasn't cast or anything, but I was hoping that this season's flashbacks would be Ollie and Hal on a roadtrip, trying to "find themselves".....

Also.... damn..... really don't want anybody to die.... especially Felicity....

dahrk definitely seems like he's in service to a higher power of some sort, esp with the entire new world o' magic at their disposal. also don't forget vandal savage is in the mix; he'll probably need some form of introduction before legends of tomorrow since it's clear both ollie and barry are aware of him by the time that show starts

good ep though, dig's helmet is much better in action

It seems to be too obvious to be Felicity.

I don't think it's her.

It is also possible that there could be more Coast City. We can't rule it out yet.

probably captain lance tbh, amazed he's lasted as long as he has. plus ollie was prattling on about the darkness not being his fault but it is his responsibility blah blah blah, echoing lance's earlier call that the arrow wrought darkness upon starling city; my guess is lance fouls dahrk after he has a moral crisis about working with hive, and pays for it with his life. redemption and ollie are involved, tears ensue etc

JUST A GUESS THOUGH, RLY DON'T WANT IT TO BE DIG OR FLICK

Can't be Dig, he just got a brand new Magneto helmet.

Dig was causally shooting people last night. Like just walking and calmly shooting people. I think there is a heel turn coming for him.

He's been shooting people since season 1....

I know, but it was different last night.

WTF happened to the hair and beard?

Those things can be cut

Yeah but they have to be super long. They have to grow pretty fast over the next year and a half or so.

Was Oliver Queen mayor in the comics?

For a bit, yeah

Which was ridiculous. Him being the only guy in the city with that ridiculous 'stache/beard now a mayor and noone connected the dots. Worse than Superman and his glasses.

Yeah.... I mean, it is his "iconic look", but always found it a bit ridic that no one could put together that the dude with the blonde mustache/beard in a very distinct shape is Green Arrow....

Not that I have been reading it anyways, but that is one change in the New52 that I didn't mind.... that they got rid of the facial hair....

more i think about my captain lance theory the more i worry it could also be felicity. let's face it - if they're ever gonna hook ollie up with dinah, they're gonna have to off felicity. plus barry came out for the funeral, even if he technically missed it. don't know that he'd do that for lance. could be wrong though i guess

anyway not that they strictly have to put ollie and dinah together but... y'know. i'd be surprised. no way does "olicity" end without tears. not NECESSARILY death but... probably. although the team would be screwed without her. buuut if mr terrific is a tech genius also...

I don't want Oliver and Laurel.

I'm going with Digg, and Oliver feels responsible because he let Diggle go after H.I.V.E alone.

Tonight I have decided that I don't like the Laurel character at all. I've given up trying to like her. She's kind of dumb.

However glad Sara Lance is back.

Like Nyssa more and more, though....

Double Down was pretty cool. Are we going to get the Arrow Cave now?

i think they blew it by concocting the sara character in the first place. should've just had laurel be the only daughter of captain lance to heighten his resentment towards ollie when he thought she had died on the ship and had her go through what sara went through with the league and whatever and bam, believable black canary that doesn't need to be replaced a season later

like i know dinah in the comics is technically a "legacy" black canary too but she's held the mantle forever so really tv dinah didn't need to be made to feel a hand-me-down imitation of the "original" :-\

not that i don't LIKE sara. i'm just saying, as far as making dinah work as the black canary and not feel kinda forced, it would have been better.

I can see that. If I was booking this show I never would have killed Sara Lance off last year. I think she is way too strong of a presence on the show. Laurel, could never be that.

Look I'm just saying The Green Arrow should be able to take down a meta human by himself... I'm just saying.

He can if he prepares but he is only human

I am excited for next week.

Yeah.... been looking forward to seeing Constantine on Arrow.... Love Constantine (as a supporting/guest character, not a lead)

It's a cool thing they are doing. It's going to be good.

Are we going to see Oliver's pissed off look at Laurel next week? I hope so.

Great episode, Constantine was good hopefully we'll see him again sometime.

Yeah, good episode. I liked the musical cues to Constantine's tv show. Nice touch.

Constantine so much better as a guest character than a lead.... I think he shows up again.

Also, Flashbacks are already infinitely more interesting than the Hong Kong stuff.... Curious as to Baron Reiter's true intentions.....

I hope we see more of Constantine.

Laurel, is still terrible. I think she is going to try and put the moves on Oliver sooner rather then later. One positive thing about Laurel is that outside the Black Canary suit she has been looking good. She was kind of smokin in the hospital.

that was magnificent

loved constantine. hope he comes back for at least one more appearance. matt ryan and the constantine crew got robbed of a decent-length run for how decent it was compared to some shows that have lasted much longer.

am loving curtis/eventual mr terrific also. dude is amazing

also the tease discovery of tiny ray being alive was pretty great

all-round solid episode though, this season continues to be one of its strongest so far

For the first time in a long time.... I will be watching LIVE

Damn Felicity is a hardass.

Looked hot as hell without the glasses there....

I'm sure he gets typecast to shit because of it, but I love Neal McDonough playing villains.

Why is Thea all "you can live a normal life" when she is dealing with the exact same problem and is only temporarily "calm" due to killing some ninjas.

Sara should still be "feeling the urge" to kill Thea too... getting her soul back doesn't mean that the effects of the pit go away....

Looks real young though.

Thea is hoping that if Sara can overcome the pit then that means she can to. So she is giving her moral support to help herself as well.

Sara by now knows that Merlyn is the one that killed her, and therefore has forgiven Thea.