It’s done.

they said for the billionth time xD

Wow this ship is taking on water fast!

What does Discovery see in them? What is anyone else going to see? They’ve wasted everything.

2.031 million for SmackDown.

410k for Rampage.

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929k for the coolest wrestling program in the world today!

I can’t wait to hear the apologies when the reality hits people.

1.49 million for RAW, I wonder if that's a record low

AEW does lower numbers than that every week. :wtf:

drawing only a half-million more than a company with less than a fraction of the longevity and brand recognition is hardly a brag, Noid, you fucking insufferable jackoff.

AEW really shouldnt be the measuring stick of success

TNA has done numbers that dwarf anything AEW has ever done.

IM JUST SAYING

This thread suffers from downs syndrome! I can see it in all your faces, the way they droop low and the slop runs out the crevice of your lips. You cannot accurately compare TNA in 2010 ratings with AEW in 2022. The cable audience is much smaller now than it was then. It's a simple as that. That's also the reason WWE's rating compare so low to TNA from 2010 or themselves from any previous era.

WWE dipping as low as AEW's highest rating is just the place where wrestling and cable is. If WWE and AEW were on Network TV they'd be drawing probably half more or double the audience they have now, cable isn't on everyone's TV in 2022 like it was in 2010, or 1998.

And by the way you twits, the big wig TNT exec's tweeted pics of them slamming beers and choking each other with their ties while watching Dynamite and were firing blunts in the private suites. Word is that Tony and the execs left the arena arm over shoulder chuckling about the night's events and what a cuck Vince McMahon is now that Nick Kahn is running that shit show. AEW forever.

lol shut up you mark

I definitely thought this was about to be a play on words. Nope. :lol:

It’s true. TNA had the problem of never being able to really move past a 1.1 rating. AEW has the problem of never being able to move past a viewership of 1.1 million people.

Raw is a 3hr show broadcast that spreads out of prime time. Imagine how much worse a 3hr Dynamite would do? You see the damage Rampage takes by being in its slot. Somehow people can’t help themselves but try and make that sort of tailing a win though. Like it’s impossible to actually be a hit on television.

What’s also constantly ignored is the WWE’s global presence. Is Rampage on in Canada yet? I know there isn’t the demand for it here in Australia. Then you’ve also go WWE’s growing streaming deals, and their plans for actually relevant technology. How is that HBO Max deal going for AEW?

WWE is the dinosaur, yet they are kicking ass and taking the definite lead with contemporary media. Gotta be a mark for those archaic and misunderstood Nielsens, which they aren’t even winning.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW Dynamite last night on TBS:<br>969,000 viewers<br>P18-49 rating: 0.40 (522,000)<br><br>Highest P18-49 since March 23. Highest total viewership since April 13.<br> �� <a href="https://t.co/1SscdBCpr8">https://t.co/1SscdBCpr8</a> <a href="https://t.co/T8LOsqMTEl">pic.twitter.com/T8LOsqMTEl</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1532452558949826565?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lol.

Fanboys: HAHA! They worked everyone!

AEW Dynamite: *gets 969k viewers*

MEGA SUPERSTAR GAME CHANGER AND TOTALLY LEGITIMATE TOUGH FIGHTER MAN PHILLIP LEADING THE CHARGE AS WORLD CHAMPION MANAGES TO SUCCESSFULLY LEAD AEW TO ANOTHER UNDER A MILLION RATING!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOW!

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This is actually interesting. TNA at its peak was pulling over 1.10 million viewers. RAW is about to fall under those number. We can use TNA of old to be the measuring stick for the official death of wrestling.

as always it should be noted we dont have any clue how many people view anything on cable. the nielson system has no value any longer. on may 2nd neilson settled for $77 million over them giving unrelaible (and knowingly bogus) data. those numbers are only useful for ad revenue purposes and shouldnt be used for even that but there isnt a better system...yet. there is one in R&D righ now and in 5ish years we will finally have good data if all goes well.



but again we have absolutely no idea how many viewers either show has. none. and neilson agrees.

neilson ratings are completely and totally fraudulent

should just pin those two posts at the top and close the thread :)

Having done no research on this top, I'll take your word for it. But I'll happily take your word for it, kind sir.

It’ll always be fun to rag on AEW fans because they take them so seriously though.

I’d like to introduce you to yourself, Noid.

i mean I'll engage in a conversation about ratings I'll just use the rules the person im speaking to has established. if x is good and y is bad even if i disagree with the metrics we can still have a conversation as long as we all have the same context.


but make no mistake those numbers are complete mickey mouse.

My issue has been solely that bad is bad, but worse than bad is somehow better and good.

right is 10 is bad for A and 6 is good for B i see why youd raise an eyebrow. HOWEVER in regards to AEW i think they have a pretty healthy growth over all. their youtube vide bring in large views which i think is indicative of interest.

if i were WWE id be concerend about 2032 and id be doubling my effort to reconnect with my audience.

if im AEW id feel optimistic about 2032. i would double down on efforts to iron out the NUMEROUS issues my company had to foster as much growth as rapidly as possible.

what im saying is there is a nuance here thats worth evaluating.

and to be clear im confident that there will be a wwe in 2032 than i am there will be an aew for a large number of reasons. like i said its a multifaceted issue.

The numbers relative to themselves make for interesting discussion. It just amazes me how 969k for one is considered great. 1.5 million for someone else is considered “a record low.”

People apply their own context to these things. They want what people who have sway want them to mean. People on the internet will say the craziest things though.

I’m pretty sure AEW is going to go under if it doesn’t get a major increase from WBD. I can see them getting it, because you can’t exactly accuse them of good taste.

But what about the demos?

I think there are other metrics which are more telling.

One of the bigger ones being the upfronts. Keep in mind one company had a major physical presence for the networks they were on, while the other barely had a slide or two.