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Fignuts 11-08-2015 11:51 AM

Also, thanks for the answer damninator.

#BROKEN Hasney 11-08-2015 12:17 PM

No idea about weapons, trying not to read too much so close.

I have read that there's some framerate hitches in the console versions, and invisible weapons occasionally, but we knew what we were getting into with a day 1 Bethesda game.

Shadow 11-08-2015 04:14 PM

So yeah some idiots broke the game and started livestreaming it. Well, until Twitch came down hard with the ban hammers. Meanwhile Youtube Gaming is probably gonna be talked to by Bethesda reps as they did nothing to stop it. Might even be some lawsuits coming.

road doggy dogg 11-08-2015 04:21 PM

So just... don't watch their stream?

Wishbone 11-08-2015 04:40 PM

That damn desktop icon is taunting me I swear...

DAMN iNATOR 11-08-2015 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts HD Edition (Post 4727414)
Over time, not a half an hour

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Originally Posted by Fignuts HD Edition (Post 4727415)
Also, thanks for the answer damninator.

Look, don't get me wrong, dude, to an extent that's a fair argument you make, but in a half-hour in real time, in FO universe time you could pass days, weeks or even months (that's stretching it, but I'm sure it's possible), and if you're spending the majority of your in-game days using the same weapons over and over in combat it does stand to reason they'll deteriorate. That's not to say with the non-unique weapons you can't open your inventory and combine a bunch of them to restore your weapons. Hell, if you're lucky enough to have a bunch of weapon repair kits, they restore your weapons to 100%.

Good talk. I mean that, too. :)

Fignuts 11-08-2015 11:27 PM

Don't care. It's annoying.

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-08-2015 11:56 PM

I really wanted 3 on One before 4 came out. I am dissapoint.

Disturbed316 11-09-2015 12:56 AM

Doesn't the 360 version of Fallout 3 come with this though? I've seen a number of places offer it as a pre-order bonus.

#BROKEN Hasney 11-09-2015 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disturbed316 (Post 4727646)
Doesn't the 360 version of Fallout 3 come with this though? I've seen a number of places offer it as a pre-order bonus.

That's what he means, but the code is in the box and he'd rather have played if before 4 comes out.

Tom Guycott 11-09-2015 02:05 AM

Weapon degredation seems kinda like unneccessary busywork. At least, in normal running gameplay. In a Hardcore Mode scenario, sure. In a game like Elder Scrolls, where you have no other stake in any weapons besides one being "better" than another? Okay. Even armor, I'm down with, because getting shot, or stabbed, or stung, or blown up tends to play a little havoc on your attire, and stitching up clothes that are presumably a few decades old seems fair.

But, with guns in Fallout, it kinda hits the threshold of unnecessary, especially when having to "repair" a shotgun with parts from another shotgun after shooting it just 12 times. Maybe just limiting ammo seems like a good tradeoff. Make finding ammo a bit harder. It's seriously easier to find ammo than money most of the time. If they make finding bullets less world-breaking to begin with, (or, at least, add weight) weapon degradation wouldn't be neccessary.

road doggy dogg 11-09-2015 08:50 AM

Doing some morning reading of the review on Polygon, love comments sections

Quote:

Can you comment a little on the romance/LGBT depictions in the game? I have some concerns over what initially seems like a character creation that forces you to create a heterosexual character, and then permits you to romance companions of either gender later.

This just seems really problematic and kind of tacked on, suggesting that player characters can only really be bisexual or straight and not gay or lesbian.

The depictions of gender (and a complete lack of sexual diversity) in Fallout Shetler doesn’t bode well.

Anyway, perhaps you could be so kind as to answer these questions:

1. Is it an accurate understanding that the game only allows for the creation of your character as half of a heterosexual couple during character creation?
2. Is it accurate to say that all companion relationships are gender neutral, but even if a player only pursues same gender companions the dissonance with the opening is never addressed?
3. Are there other companion/NPCs/quests that depict LGBT people? E.g. quest giver referencing their same sex partner?

I’m sure some will angrily dismiss my questions as SJW nonsense, but as a queer player with limited time I prefer to spend the time sink of a game like this in a virtual universe that I feel is inclusive.
some people should just not play games

#BROKEN Hasney 11-09-2015 08:53 AM

^ lol. The character is created from sperm and an egg, yes. If you had a gay couple it would throw the creation outta whack.

Been reading reviews today, scores great but there's the usual Bethesda jank we all know and love. Not WWE games bad, but there's some funny stuff happening and a few frame drops.

Looks like there's a major bug on the XB1 version that occasionally drops the game to 0fps.

http://i.imgur.com/MYpPSnZ.gif

road doggy dogg 11-09-2015 08:56 AM

Par for the course, sadly. Almost makes me thankful I'll have to wait a couple days to play it most likely.

Heisenberg 11-09-2015 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4727714)
Doing some morning reading of the review on Polygon, love comments sections



some people should just not play games



2015, the SJW era, is almost over. We gave them plenty of time to emotionally shatter everyone, it's time to take back freedom

road doggy dogg 11-09-2015 08:59 AM

Now don't get me wrong, it's fine to want to be able to relate to characters in a game and all, especially an immersive RPG where you feel like YOU are your character and such

But I mean, it's not like NBA 2k16 is going outta their way to make an all-white team or anything. At a point just accept that there's more important things to focus on in the development of a game. idk

road doggy dogg 11-09-2015 08:59 AM

Feel like I took an STD-like leap with my analogy that I'm hoping people see where I'm coming from. Lack of coffee and all that.

Sixx 11-09-2015 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4727714)
Doing some morning reading of the review on Polygon, love comments sections



some people should just not play games

#whatafag

Heisenberg 11-09-2015 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4727725)
Feel like I took an STD-like leap with my analogy that I'm hoping people see where I'm coming from. Lack of coffee and all that.



thanks for defending me against his accusations. It's proof he doesn't read anyone's posts.

road doggy dogg 11-09-2015 09:12 AM

On the subject of reviews, I love the mindset of the players/SHEEP. For example:

People chastising reviews of the game for pointing out flaws in the game or whatever, as if the reviewer is WRONG. Fucking hilarious. Like, I'm as big a Fallout fanboy as the next guy but are people not allowed to have differing opinions? Oh and the best part is the people commenting haven't even fucking touched the game yet, making it hilarious.

"omg Destructoid gave it a 7.5/10 they're garbage!" ...hilarious, it's like people are already clamoring for it to be GOTY and it's not even out yet lol

drave 11-09-2015 09:16 AM

Yea, the new gen is quite ridiculous.

Let's not forget about the Starbucks "Holiday" cup outrage that is ACTUALLY HAPPENING!!!

Hope those people die, literally.

road doggy dogg 11-09-2015 09:17 AM

In all likelihood the game will be fantastic and a great experience and maybe a GOTY-type game, but let's maybe pump the brakes until we've had a chance to play it at all

(I know that's asking a lot of dumb-ass fanboys)

drave 11-09-2015 09:20 AM

No doubt it will be great. Wonder how long until "BUt in NV or FO 3 or Skyrim you could do x. THIS GAME IS NEW AND YOU CANT DO x NOW, WHY?!"

Fignuts 11-09-2015 01:18 PM

Day 1

Sepholio 11-09-2015 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 4727735)
Yea, the new gen is quite ridiculous.

Let's not forget about the Starbucks "Holiday" cup outrage that is ACTUALLY HAPPENING!!!

Hope those people die, literally.

I saw that on the local news website. Posted a comment explaining to them why that's not news and real people don't care. Feel pretty good about those couple minutes I wasted on that click-bait garbage.

Heisenberg 11-09-2015 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 4727737)
No doubt it will be great. Wonder how long until "BUt in NV or FO 3 or Skyrim you could do x. THIS GAME IS NEW AND YOU CANT DO x NOW, WHY?!"

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Originally Posted by Fignuts HD Edition (Post 4727816)
Day 1



Day 0

Fignuts 11-09-2015 02:08 PM

So many people losing their shit over the framerate nonsense. Meanwhile there have been countless streams that have encountered nothing like that video.

But people keep fighting one another over which console they are buying it on.

Because console wars..............console wars never change.

drave 11-09-2015 02:21 PM

Nice.

Also see that PC players have been using VPN services to get "early access" to the game, if you will. Nothing new, but still.


If the game were to be 1080p and 60fps on consoles, the droves would just bitch about "delays" and "polish time" (not Polish time, Sixx) and blah blah blah.

Really hope that the core group of "gamers" get back to realizing that there is more than GRAPICZ YO! to a great game.

Sixx 11-09-2015 02:24 PM

POLISH TIME!

Wishbone 11-09-2015 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4727714)
Doing some morning reading of the review on Polygon, love comments sections



some people should just not play games

... I mean I kinda see where they're coming from, but honestly they should be happy that Bethesda is even including same sex romance at all. For that matter anyone who likes romance in a game (me...) should be happy that Bethesda included any form of romance at all in the game given that the majority don't give a crap and it's basically just for the few hardcore roleplayers out there (if they even have. Haven't heard anything about them including stuff like this honestly.)

Sepholio 11-09-2015 02:59 PM

I'm hoping those FPS issues are fixed in the day 1 patch; otherwise I fear the GRAPICZ YO! GANGSTAZ will be bitching to the maximum on this one.

To be clear I am a big graphics whore myself. I like eye candy. I really do. But it doesn't detract from what makes a game good or not. Would FO4 be a better game if it had better graphics? Nope, it would just be prettier. That's why I can still go back and play FF7 for example. It's ugly as sin now but it is still gaming greatness. The opposite can also be true: The Order 1886 is one of the most beautiful games I've ever played....but that shiny coat of paint didn't make it a good game.

The graphics are a bonus, basically. And if you have to sacrifice some of that bonus to get a much better gaming experience then so be it.

Sepholio 11-09-2015 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 4727844)
POLISH TIME!

Is it weird that I pictured you yelling that while wearing a pair of extra shiny parachute pants?

Sixx 11-09-2015 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 4727861)
Is it weird that I pictured you yelling that while wearing a pair of extra shiny parachute pants?

No, what's weird is you are apparently reading my mind!

Sepholio 11-09-2015 03:04 PM

Can't touch this.

Emperor Smeat 11-09-2015 06:16 PM

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Fignuts 11-10-2015 12:14 AM

IT'S TIME

Heisenberg 11-10-2015 01:33 AM

It's so damn beautiful

Fignuts 11-10-2015 02:44 AM

Yeah fuck all the haters this looks great. Fallout 3, as much as I love it, got redundant after a while with it's bleak color scheme. Only been around the first two areas but it already looks more vibrant while maintaining that fallout atmosphere.

And good fucking god, I might end up spending the whole week building settlements.

#BROKEN Hasney 11-10-2015 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts HD Edition (Post 4728533)
IT'S TIME

http://imgur.com/x3Ztlig.gif

But first, I must work. Godammit.

The Rogerer 11-10-2015 04:47 AM

A page full of men whinging about what someone said somewhere else on the internet. At least I'm complaining about what's in front of me.


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